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Posted: 14 years ago
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Very good points, Zainab! There are major similarities and major differences...If I am not mistaken Mr. Darcy was a lot older than Arnav ...and so was Lizzie compared to our Jalebi...so I do feel that there is big difference in the maturity level of the characters as well...which probably is also more appealing to the current audience. Never the less, what is similar is really strong and can be built on...Khushi shows very strong traits of Lizzie ...even if she puts it forward in an innocent way...and Arnav's feelings about the class have to be resolved...I hope it is not only based on Arhi eye locks and there is conversation between them which has substance...The directors have shown glimpses of it already..I am very optimistic...!!

Arnav's becoming quite immune to the class issue in Khushi's case..like he did not demur when Anjali invited them for the pooja..I think he has begun thinking beyond the hasiyat ..Khushi is quite similar too Lizzie except she is perhaps more young..and therefore less in a sense worldly as ASR or Lavs for that matter..but that said and done..quite mature for her age..
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Posted: 14 years ago
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the darcification of asr would be indeed a tragedy because unlike darcy who was born to the manor, asr is a self made man- in corrupt india of the 21st century. so, he needs to be ruthless and would have done some shady dealings to reach such heights at such a young age. all the more for him to doubt "goodness" in people. His biggest grouse against Khushi is her indomitable energy/spirit that makes her too good to be true. But her telling him off certainly has stirred more than it ought to have mattered to him. He has always associated sweetness and goodness with his sister. But Khushi is a very different flavor- she is sweet (like jelebi) but also a firecracker and shoots off her mouth unlike Anjali. So, he needs to come to terms with that. That will take time. However, they do show him being intrigued. I just hope that the Shyam track does not kill these new ruminations of Asr.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Vista, this is a phenomenal post. You have beautifully analyzed Arnav's nature and his change from a rock to a feather. He may not be a soft feather but he will get there once he falls in love. I have not read the P&P but I am aware of the novel. ASR seems like a sadist in comparison to Darcy. He has this cold edge that forces Khushi to beware of him. She is not willing to accept his gentle gestures because his previous cruel actions are far more deep and painful. ASR might dislike Khushi but he is clearly interested in her. She comes into his thoughts quite often and he is always distracted by her presence. He cares for her well being and this is why he saved her numerous times. He saved her from the racing car and held her in a protective embrace. ASR ran like a crazy man to locate Khushi in the crumbling building and safely returned her home with a minor injury. He caught her from falling at the mandir and tried to remove the kumkum from her eyes. Likewise, ASR saved her again from a life threatening fall when she fainted at the steps of the mandir. He ran like a superhero that was determined to save the damsel in distress. ASR sweetly carried Khushi and brought her to consciousness by feeding her water. Regardless of how she scolded and insulted him, ASR was there to catch Khushi once more from another fall. He was not willing to see her hurt after witnessing how he physically hurt her. ASR may not be in love but he has great care for the girl. Both Arnav and Khushi have been quiet in their recent encounters but they must move past this phase and speak their hearts out. They are beginning to realize that the other is not who they seem. Khushi is intelligent and ethical while Arnav is caring to those he considers important. Unconsciously, his heart as identified Khushi as an important individual and thus he is eager to always protect her.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Baqi Lizzie's prejudices against Darcy's treatment of Wickham reinforced by Darcy's attempt to keep Bingley and Jane apart earlier when he was trying to protect his friend..It is quite funny how Khushi's predjiced against ASR who has given her enough cause for grief will be fanned by Shyam Ji I suspect and this will prob to a greater extent cause doubts and misunderstandings..Arnav I think
is still trying to get a word in edgewise and I suspect if they do have a convoseration it will be a war of words and no less as Arnav thinks that Khushi is unlikely to listen to him..to believe in him given what has happened...Interesting days ahead..

Yep, definitely interesting days ahead...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Saatschi

@Vistaa: Love the post and the replies...

No sooner had Darcy written Eliza off as being a beauty, that he found himself being captivated by the intelligence and beauty of her fine sparkling eyes. He admired the way she spoke back to him, enjoyed the verbal sparring she afforded him, unlike the toadeaters he was accustomed to (like Caroline Bingley for example) and was intrigued by the easy playfulness of her manner. Even though he fought against it, even trying to convince himself that if not for the inferiority of her connections, he would be in danger of falling in love with her. From then on, even though he continued to be prejudiced, he proceeded to fall irrevocably in love with his "dearest, loveliest, Elizabeth". And of course, there was that infamous proposal which did his suit no good at all:-)) Okay, before I get carried away, let me get back to the topic, yes, the "Darcification of ASR", that is so quaint, I love it.

Well, ASR seems to be captivated by Khushi's sparkling eyes and intrigued by her standing upto him. And the Guptas all seem to resent ASR just like the Bennets (and most of the society of Hertfordshire) disliked Darcy. However Khushi has now witnessed his gallantry (no idea what she is thinking but we will find out today I guess) and since she will never expect ASR to be attracted to her, she could chalk it down to a gallant act. Anyway, there has to be more. Can't be smooth sailing and all that. Probably now Khushi will be antagonistic because of ASR throwing a couple of spokes into Pay-Ash's love-wheel. And no matter what he does or thinks, ASR, keeping his outer core intact will continue to soften as far as Khushi is concerned but will fight it tooth and nail. How it will all come to a head is anyone's guess. But I like the Darcification of ASR. Sorry, I have gone all off topic but the topic brought such sweet memories:-)))

To continue with dialogues I would love to hear:
"There is a stubbornness about me that never can bear to be frightened at the will of others." and "My courage always rises with every attempt to intimidate me." :-) Saatschi

Oh, another Austen lover😊...welcome, welcome😃
Thanks for liking the post...you are kind.😊
@Bold: Great point!!! You are so right...there is always that issue to exploit...even though he might like Khushi, he may support Mamijee in her opposition to Payal as wife to Akash
And Khushi will be mad...!!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sidda8

Vista, this is a phenomenal post. You have beautifully analyzed Arnav's nature and his change from a rock to a feather. He may not be a soft feather but he will get there once he falls in love. I have not read the P&P but I am aware of the novel. ASR seems like a sadist in comparison to Darcy. He has this cold edge that forces Khushi to beware of him. She is not willing to accept his gentle gestures because his previous cruel actions are far more deep and painful. ASR might dislike Khushi but he is clearly interested in her. She comes into his thoughts quite often and he is always distracted by her presence. He cares for her well being and this is why he saved her numerous times. He saved her from the racing car and held her in a protective embrace. ASR ran like a crazy man to locate Khushi in the crumbling building and safely returned her home with a minor injury. He caught her from falling at the mandir and tried to remove the kumkum from her eyes. Likewise, ASR saved her again from a life threatening fall when she fainted at the steps of the mandir. He ran like a superhero that was determined to save the damsel in distress. ASR sweetly carried Khushi and brought her to consciousness by feeding her water. Regardless of how she scolded and insulted him, ASR was there to catch Khushi once more from another fall. He was not willing to see her hurt after witnessing how he physically hurt her. ASR may not be in love but he has great care for the girl. Both Arnav and Khushi have been quiet in their recent encounters but they must move past this phase and speak their hearts out. They are beginning to realize that the other is not who they seem. Khushi is intelligent and ethical while Arnav is caring to those he considers important. Unconsciously, his heart as identified Khushi as an important individual and thus he is eager to always protect her.

Thanks Sidda dear😊...I am glad that you enjoyed the post.
As you can tell, I highly recommend reading Pride&Prejudice...and if you can lay your hands on the 1995 BBC mini-series starring Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle, do watch that...but I suggest you read the book first...😊 It is fantabulous.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: blokes

the darcification of asr would be indeed a tragedy because unlike darcy who was born to the manor, asr is a self made man- in corrupt india of the 21st century. so, he needs to be ruthless and would have done some shady dealings to reach such heights at such a young age. all the more for him to doubt "goodness" in people. His biggest grouse against Khushi is her indomitable energy/spirit that makes her too good to be true. But her telling him off certainly has stirred more than it ought to have mattered to him. He has always associated sweetness and goodness with his sister. But Khushi is a very different flavor- she is sweet (like jelebi) but also a firecracker and shoots off her mouth unlike Anjali. So, he needs to come to terms with that. That will take time. However, they do show him being intrigued. I just hope that the Shyam track does not kill these new ruminations of Asr.

Sorry for the late reply, 😳 and huge thanks for posting your take.😊...but I am curious to know why you would consider Darcification a tragedy? Granted Arnav is a self-made man (though if we are talking classes here, then technically he is manor born too...just that his inheritance was snatched away by evil relatives), and his ruthlessness and coldness has aided him in reaching wherever he is right now, but that is not to say there is no room for tender emotions in his life at all...I would argue that all the more reason for him to find true love...the kind a completely artless, honest, beautiful girl like Khushi can provide.
@Bold:You make a great point there...up until now, his sister has been the epitome of all that is good and fine in this world...and here comes our Jalebi Girl, ready to question all his notions and turn them on their collective heads😆
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heyaa vistaa🤗
well i read your post in three parts for three days😆
well i completely agree with the P&P part.. but frankly indian shows are far too filled with drama to think of such striking similarities.. i guess
yes it is true that arnav has moved from thinking of khushi to thinking about khushi (i love that line you used there)..
and yeah i really think he just tortured her for the sake of satisfying his pride.. like he was insulted when he was outrighteosly questioned by khushi..
but now that his feelings for her have gone for a sixer i think khushi might not just invoke feelings from him but ALSO transform the person he already his.. like change him for good..
have you read JANE EYRE( by charlette bronte) (spellingz must b wrong😛).. though the leads there have a 20 year gap.. i feel it somehow has some resemblances there too.. the way Rochester CHANGES himself and is completely ready to do anything for her.. is where i see khushi and arnav going...

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