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@Reeltoreal

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Posted: 7 years ago

#11

Lol cannot help but laugh ... apologies no offence but gentle breeze becomes a wind gust n there is a directional change always with what ever you start it goes somewhere elsebut not where it is supposed to just like in IB .

This track or any track in IB is always shivika centric with other stories thrown in so as per expectations Anika should be in focus but as we all know Shivay is the heart n soul and we all know how the story will go . It will be Shivay dealing with it all ergo Anika in focus ( which is good enough for me)

That said Gauri what ever she went thru was in DBO ... the characters were brought in but not the story so i wonder if people who only watched IB would relate to gauris story which even if brought in would be botched up as Cvs are not capable of running n meshing up the story enough for the viewers to understand and relate to. No offence to anyone but gauri will be left alone n if at all they do the sisters track may be it will be brought into focus .

My only wish ( though i know i should not be asking for anything) just let the track be KM raaz track n nothing else mixed in . After the vanvass track lets just say i want a virgin bloodymary than a cocktail ... with no heads or tails .

After the track anyone can become mahaan n forgive one n all but let the story go like it should ...one step at a time minus logic .

As for Anika Vs Gauri who n y ... do not want to go there but if I am going with what was said here Gauri atleast had a family till her dad passed away n Has a mom as per the story ... good bad ugly useless cruel atleast she had some one unlike Anika who had none .

And really do we need to care nope... they give what they give not what we want .

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Agree not agree does not matter to me bas apni gyaaan naa dein . Thank you .

Edited by yash2010 - 7 years ago

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AreYaar

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Posted: 7 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: yash2010

As for Anika Vs Gauri who n y ... do not want to go there but if I am going with what was said here Gauri atleast had a family till her dad passed away n Has a mom as per the story ... good bad ugly useless cruel atleast she had some one unlike Anika who had none .

Exactly. That is the simple fact here...without getting into the weeds, bottom line is that Gauri had a guardian figure in the form of her adoptive mother while Anika literally had no one...not sure how exactly a child like Sahil is considered equivalent to a mother figure...was he able to help raise Anika in anyway? Feed her? Clothe her? No...she had to do all of that herself and find a way to raise Sahil too, even as she battled serious trauma from the years of abuse she faced in her orphanage...that is the difference here as the show has well documented over the last two years.

There was no adult figure in Anika's life that she could count on in the smallest possible way...that is the basic truth of this storyline, long established...she's always had to support herself and support Sahil as well as useless ppl like the Bua...

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kala16

@kala16

Rocker

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Posted: 7 years ago

#13

Thank you for the post. But going by the way the makers hv treated gauri since 5 months do you think she will shown as chutki? Gauri is totally non-existent.

They hv totally forgotten Rikara are a couple and they need to show them talking in private once in a week.

I haven't seen IB so dont know abt anikas past.

In DBO gauri was shown taking care of her mother from the 1st episode. Her relatives sold her to KT and his brothers and blackmailed gauri. She had to leave her studies to take care of other.

But if the CVs remember their first spinoff the audience will know this. If not we all know what will be shown

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yellomellow

@yellomellow

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Posted: 7 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: SRKisLove

Okay nothing against this post, and well I'm not really watching the show, so who cares? 😆

But I hate this presumption that Gauri had a better life than Anika. 🥱

We HAVE NOT SEEN Gauri's side of the story. We CAN ONLY MAKE ASSUMPTIONS.

As for loving mother, lol, her mother is the most annoying character. Its Gauri who brought up her mother and not vice-versa. I dunno how many people have seen DBO. But I have seen both IB and DBO, so let me say that Sahil is much, much, much more sensible and a better family member than Gauri's mother can ever be (Sahil in fact, is more sensible and mature than the whole of Oberoi family).

As for adoptive family, so lol. I know Sundari Bua was pretty bad and bullied and tortured Anika a lot. I have seen those scenes.

But Gauri's chaachi and chaachi ACTUALLY, IN CANON, sold her off for money to Kali Thakur. That makes them just as bad as Sundari Bua, if not more. 🤢

Gauri has had quite a traumatic past. Just being adopted by her mother, did not change that. Her mother who never once asked her whether she is happy. No, all she cared about was "damaadji". I would say that Shivaay and Anika care more about Gauri than her own mother.

Yes, Gauri's mother cared loved her, but it was she who would always put in stupid ideas about matrimony and husband worship in Gauri's head. If she cared about Gauri, then she would have asked why Gauri dumped Om and came back to Bareilly. But no, it was again, why is Gauri not going back with Om. 🤢

Maaji ek baar pooch toh lo aapke "damaadji" ne kya kya atyachaar kiye hai. 😡

Anyways, can we please stop comparing who suffered more? Just because Gauri's suffering as a child was not shown in DBO or IB, it does not mean that she did not suffer. There were enough clues that Gauri had to work from a young age to take care of her mother, she was tortured by her chaacha and chaachi, and she has faced poverty too.

Both my girls have suffered a lot, and deserve loads better than the Oberoi family or indeed, Shivaay and Omkara.

Peace!

Speaking of assumptions you made quite a few about this post. You made the post into a comparison post.. the irony 😆

I never said one suffered more than other or one had a better life than the other. One had a mother and one didn't. I didn't make that up the CVS did. The whole point of the post was about the ridiculousness of how much the Oberios get away with, the lack of consistency, and lowering your expectations. That's was it. The rest you filled in yourself and passed the baton to others.

I liked her mom. She was sweet minus her TRP backwardness. It was annoying, but I wasn't surprised by her awful dialogues. Those are part of the package when it comes to mothers on daily soaps.

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Risha

@--Risha--

Dazzler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#15

This is the most annoying thing about this forum now. you start a topic about something completely different, with THE BEST INTENTIONS in mind and it gets turned into a frikkin' fan war over one line out of 100. What mods need to do is allocate different threads to different fandoms so people can carry out discussions in peace. Or come with SOMETHING to handle this situation.

Coming to the actual point of your post. I fully agree with your logic. The Oberois have an equal hand in the fire. True, they didn't actually burn ut down but they sure did reap the benefits. Becharee Roop ko toh koi luxurious life bhee nai milee 😆 But I don't think Annika will have anything against them. I believe this time it might actually be Shivaay who tries to get her dad justice while Annika is the good bahu who sticks by the family's side. But I don't think even Shivaay being against the Oberois will last too long.

On the other hand, Gul's video seems like he's actually happy for Annika. So we never know where this will go.

My expectations are veryyy low here 😆 Thanks to always having high expectations in the past and getting baba jee ka thullu in return 😆 So I guess Ive learnt to just watch the predominantly ShivIka bits though I hear epis have been good recently. Still, GK is very unpredictable. We fans expect a great track while the CVs have a tendency to go with the most obvious track. So. ..*shrugs*

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Hriju321

@Hriju321

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Posted: 7 years ago

#16

Just like the moral of a story,the moral to be gleaned from this forum is that you write a great post on a subject with the bestest intentions but you still are given 'gyaan' on a matter that your post is not related to ;and,the main picture is lost in the Kurukshetra that follows and ultimately everything leaves a bitter taste in your mouth!

TM I agree to everything you have said in all your posts in this thread and these days my expectations are 1 in a scale of 1 to 10.

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Innika

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Posted: 7 years ago

#17

First and foremost; sorry this post was hijacked, as posts like these usually are :/

I agree with everything that you said; but really, I'm glad someone pointed out the glorification of the Oberoi family. Though they may have physically not caused the fire, they had an equal hand in the cover-up. And is that not on par with what Roop did? NGL, I really hope that the CVs throw a curveball because at the moment, the Kalyani Mills track seems quite open-shut. No, it wasn't the Oberois! It was Roop, the standard, evil TRP aunt that screws things up, whereas the family themselves were just misguided. Cue Shivaay freaking out for two weeks about his family being evil, and we go from there. There's no real drama; just the CVs spelling out crap that we already know.

I love and adore Shivaay/Nakuul, and I get that Shivaay is innately linked to this whole issue, but this track really needs to show how Annika feels. As you said, SC is talented in emotional scenes, and she would genuinely thrive. I want to see the consequences on Shivaay, and their relationship; but that needs to happen in its own right, and not be associated with Annika finally facing her past.

On the Annika vs. Gauri debate; I watched three episodes of DBO before giving up so I can't really comment, but from what I know (and hear a lot) is that Gauri had it bad too. That's terrible and all, but I hate that somehow, you mentioning that Annika had a terrible past, automatically meant that Gauri didn't. Y'all, TM didn't say that; stop starting shit honestly. I don't get the controversy about the mother; isn't it true??! Yes, she was backdated. She was weak, she was a burden. But she loved Gauri, and Gauri loved her back. Gauri had a maternal figure in her life, to guide her (even if it was to hold certain backdated, TRP-esque opinions). Annika did not, and the integrity of Sahil as another family member will not change that, like it won't change the fact that Gauri didn't have a little sibling that loved her.

Unpopular opinion (sorry if this causes drama lol), but for me, this track will always be about Annika. I understand that Gauri and RiKara fans hold their own sentiments, but on a personal note, I want this to be an Annika-centric track. For one, if I'm not mistaken, the 'canon' that DBO asserted didn't specify that Gauri herself had a long-lost sister, that haunted her, that she was searching for? For me, it seemed like the CVs conveniently shoved that into the middle of the Bareilly track after reading that some audiences did want AniRi. For me, this specific storyline will never truly be for Gauri, as some want it to be. Every character deserves their own track, and this was one that Annika/Surbhi had and deserved from the conception of IB. I was totally for Gauri and her education track, and I genuinely remember thinking that I would hate it f Annika was also suddenly part of it, because education was obviously Gauri's battle to fight. Like that, I want and hope to god that this track is for Annika, and the CVs rewrite the storyline (like they're known to do), and forgo AnniRi. They should really learn their lesson by now and not give Surbhi/Annika and Shrenu/Gauri explicitly linked tracks, because it will start fandom wars like no other (as this post proves).

Ironically, I actually remember having a conversation with you about the sisters track, and how you thought it was incredibly contrived, a few months ago. I stand corrected, you were right. I'm so incredibly against the long-lost sisters track, omfg. Give Annika and Gauri separate tracks, @theCVs, it'll keep the masses satisfied.

Sorry for lowkey hijacking your post yellowmellow, but as usual, loved hearing your thoughts!

Edited by Innika. - 7 years ago

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ArVi-licious

@ArVi-licious

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Posted: 7 years ago

#18

I know at this point everyone's expectations are low.. the whole KM Raaz is been so haphazardly done.. the only thing we've all been waiting is for Anika and Gauri to know they r sisters.. it's been a long awaited track.. but in my opinion it's going to get sidelined as always.. the focus will b on shivika s relationship as all the baddies have been pointing out..

A lot of discussion on which little girl had a bad childhood.. though we can't help but compare.. I think they both have suffered in their own way.. having said that shivaay has supported n spoken abt her childhood n past n they've shown what they've felt.. whereas as for Gauri, none of this has been been brought up at all!!! She really was dragged around in chains.. and it has never been discussed her husband has not been told abt this! She has suffered silently..

Well I think I lost track of what I had to say. 🤔

It does matter.. but then I guess it doesn't in the end like always with so many potential tracks

Edited by ArVi-licious - 7 years ago

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Innika

@-castaways-

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Posted: 7 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: RingsOfSaturn

It will be very annoying if CVs choose to just show this from Anika's POV and forget that Gauri exists.

Gauri had the most difficult life so far, she had a traumatic childhood, what else could be worse than not getting an education and being sold to Kaali?

Atleast Anika grew up independent in a huge metropolis like Mumbai, learned to read and write and had a job before meeting Shivaay.

Where is it written, that only elder sister or brother suffers most and so only they deserve to be hero worshipped all along? Only they deserve attention and retribution?

And talking about actors, I think SP emotes as well as SC.
Definitely in this sisters - Aniri vs. Oberois track - they should get equal space.

Both of them suffered, they could have had a much better life with their parents, but CVs will again turn this into Shivaay vs. Anika drama with Shivaay choosing his family.

I have absolutely no expectations !!!!

🤢

This isn't an attack, I'm just incredibly surprised.

Most people try to hide their hatred/resentment but you're just out in the open about it all :/

TM did not make this a comparison post. You all did. No one said that SP didn't emote as well as SC, nor was it implied that SC was the only one who could pull of this track. On 'Gauri had the most difficult life so far', that can be your opinion but its a bit much to say that hard and fast. Both characters suffered, both their lives were ruined.

Also, attention and retribution? Come on, this track was sold as Annika's track from the very first episode of IB. As for Gauri, I understand that as a fan you want her part of the track as well, but don't dismiss the fact that the CVs have literally kept the role of Chutki as pick-and-mould. It was implied that Ishaana would be the sister, but then she left, and Gauri replaced her. You cannot honestly expect to equate the sentiments of Annika and Gauri fans, in this context, can you?

No hate, honestly, but this post just went over my head.

Edit; things that could be on par with what you deem to be the 'worst'

- being abused

- being plagued with nightmares constantly about things you had no control over

- having no parental figure in your life

- feeling like you were worthless for not being able to save your sister, for not being able to reach out and grab her hand before it was too late

- not knowing anything about your past

- having to provide for someone, without having any other sense of stability that could help

- a cruel, selfish aunt that is willing to sell out the instant that she can

- working three to four jobs a day because that's the only way you can survive

Both had it bad. No one had it worse.

Edited by Innika. - 7 years ago

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Innika

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Posted: 7 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: ArVi-licious
I know at this point everyone's expectations are low.. the whole KM Raaz is been so haphazardly done.. the only thing we've all been waiting is for Anika and Gauri to know they r sisters.. it's been a long awaited track.. but in my opinion it's going to get sidelined as always.. the focus will b on shivika s relationship as all the baddies have been pointing out..
A lot of discussion on which little girl had a bad childhood.. though we can't help but compare.. I think they both have suffered in their own way.. having said that shivaay has supported n spoken abt her childhood n past n they've shown what they've felt.. whereas as for Gauri, none of this has been been brought up at all!!! She really was dragged around in chains.. and it has never been discussed her husband has not been told abt this! She has suffered silently..

Well I think I lost track of what I had to say. 🤔

It does matter.. but then I guess it doesn't in the end like always with so many potential tracks

Point of contention; you say that at least Annika has been able to share some of her past, whereas Gauri has not. That's fair, but then it should also be noted that at least Gauri knows that she had a sister that she lost, memories of her to keep, a picture of her to hold. Annika has none of that. All she has is disillusionment.

We've never heard Annika talk about Chutki, apart from when she has nightmares. All Shivaay knows, after 500 episodes, is that she's an orphan, afraid of the dark and that she was hit. There's been no acknowledgment about a sister, or even that she really know anything about her past. I also think its a bit silly to be talking about being dragged around in chains, not because it isn't dreadful and terrible, but because, I think both Annika and Gauri hold scars that are much deeper than those that are physical. Both women have suffered, and to a certain extent, both have suffered silently - while Annika is plagued by her not-knowing, her lack of knowledge of her past which is why she is so rigidly focused on the present, Gauri lives with the knowledge, and the inability to seek out her sister, even though she knows that she has lost her. I repeat, both have suffered - so let's not discount that due to our own resentments?

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