My pov abt forced marriage. - Page 4

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Absolutely...great point about allowing both Shivaay and Anika to be the hero and heroine of their own story...they are strong as individuals, as well as a unit.

What I don't get is why ppl fixate on the forced wedding as if it was the first and last forced wedding on TV...lol it's this strange obsession...I've never seen this level of obsession over one track for any of the other shows which are filled with the same cliched forced marriage stunt...for some reason, Shivaay putting his shoe on the bed next to her head apparently made this the "darkest" and worst forced wedding ever...LOL ek taraf is the crowd that strangely gets feels from such "dark" and abusive visuals...on the other side is the faux feminist brigade out with pitchforks, ready to behead Shivaay for this...lol

I'm somewhere in the middle and the minority it seems...I found the idea of the forced wedding quite distasteful, didn't like all the manhandling, pushing around, so called flip to "beast" mode with the shoe on bed and warnings about "you don't know what I'm capable of"...it's another matter that I was also finding Shivaay's shoe on the bed funny looking cuz of his funky socks😆...

Shivaay's character didn't END that day, contrary to what some feel...yes, this was a distasteful stunt that deffo undermined his character that day...yes, we got to see an extreme side of him that played to Gulneet's "dark fantasies"...but as you pointed out in your post, twisted as it was, there was a reasoning behind this...a dark haze of anger driving this...and a well established history already existing b/w Shivika...where they grew from that point is what made this journey worth the while...the forced wedding is but a distasteful blip on the radar of this journey to me...one can appreciate NM-SC's performances in that dark chapter but otherwise, what matters to me is how far Shivika came from that point...that day wasn't the sum of their relationship...there was a lot before and a LOT more after it.

Originally posted by: OyeNautanki

Nice post Nakshtra 😳

Lolzy on the people who are still stuck on what Shivaay did was cardinal sin threatening to kill Saahil with Anika & the way he married her 😆 Let's forget that Shivika were already in love with each other before Shivaay pulled that stunt in anger & how their journey started, progressed & what they are to each other now. Coz the forced marriage was the worst which has been shown on desi TV history & other shows & PH have only shown which are socially & morally correct right? 🤔 The ones who rant about it still are just J about how organic Shivika's relationship turned out than the run of the mill BS couples of forced marriage 😳 😳 😳

Originally posted by: Khyati8

Its rather amusing how people are stuck on 15mins of forced marriage but totally undermine the months of evolution shown in their journey post forced marriage. For me IB is the only show that managed to actually show some real remorse guilt from the ML for what he did that day. Shivaay on many occasions has in the past shown guilt for what he did for the longest of time has desperately wanted to make ammends for forcing her to marry him. Not once but twice. That forced marriage wasn't something to feel proud about nor did shivaay ever feel so. In a weird way there is some sort of explanation as to why it happened why was there a flip to beast mode. Not justification but some reason. Before there separation during the rasams all shivaay wanted was anika to feel special and then asking her for marriage again stressing on the fact that it should be her choice then during reunion saying she deserves a wedding that she never got the dialogue "Mujhe anika pe bhi fakr hai aur anika ka hone par bhi" when did we ever see such beautiful lines spoken in a journey and also how does one despite all this still remain stuck up on the forced wedding? After there second marriage too again he spoke about how this time the marriage is by choice her wish is there. Forced marriage wasn't a beginning of there journey rather a low point they hit yet from there on the evolution has been shown perfectly. The constant emphasis on her wish her choice in this marriage that by all means i dont remember seeing in any other forced marriage track to such extent and depth. All of this was his own thinking nobody else asked him to do so his own guilt for what happened and making it right past cannot be changed but amends can be made in the future and that has been done. In a story soo rich of evaluation people should stop pretending only forced marriage is the highlight of the story.

Originally posted by: nakshatra72

The fixation with forced marriage may be (not sure) that few people stopped watching, and they missed the beautiful progression that followed so they can't understand how any girl can take side of shivay.. But what they fail to understand is we are not taking side of shivay who was a beast, we are taking the side of the shivay who is a prince a completely changed person who redeemed himself..

Originally posted by: Prozium

Yes Nakshatra. And also the growth of the characters shivaay and Anika from a forced marriage to what they currently are is really striking. Even with the differences they really tried to work on their marriage (and differences are many not just in class, status and other things).

To be fair forced marriage/forced zabardasti and all is nothing new and GK is not the first producer to try it. Ages ago in kutumb, then TV superstars hiten tejwani and Gauri Pradhan (who went on to take the "shipping" to actual level by marrying in real life). I remember they had a revenge marriage with each other and hiten character did forced himself on Gauri as she hurt his ego or something. That can be purely termed as rape.i wonder what kind of furore it would have caused during modern times of internet access. As someone mentioned above this forced marriage was a distateful trp track and it remains and as you have mentioned the development of the characters after that is really well written. Both the points are very well stated.

Personally I want many things in Indian shows and hopefully in the future we can get those. Overused tracks like forced marriage, bride swaps, glorification of suhaag Raat and taking it as normal and other many things.

Originally posted by: ...Nihara...

I don't know about others guys😆,if i offended anyone through my comments in this thread,i want to tell one thing😆.As this post Title was stressed on Forced mrg track,i shared my opinion particularly on that track it doesn't mean that i still stuck at there,i even forgot about that track after seeing the beautiful Shivika journey almost 1 month after that track ended😆,When i saw a title of this post about that track then only i remembered and wanted to share my POV about the same .otherwise why would i bring this topic and stuck myself there😆,anyway Cvs sometimes flip the characters in some tracks,if opinion has to give about any particular track i give based on that track,anyway i just wanted to put it in clear.I am a diehard Shivika fan,i am not intended to offend any other Shivika fan here.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I guess ppl have various reasons for their biases...yes this is an overdone cliche on TV and many ppl are tired of it...but at the same time, HOW it's done matters...cliches are there in every story on TV...it's the treatment that makes or breaks it.

Getting hung up on Anika taking Shivaay's side...lol this girl was taking his side way before this marriage happened...what kind of a "normal" girl is willing to take a stain on her reputation just to save a guy from a murder accusation? That was Anika too...was she a "doormat" then also? Having tremendous compassion doesn't automatically make you a doormat...Anika is capable of both immense compassion as well as bluntness...she can be extremely tender hearted one moment, then fiercely brave the next...she isn't just one static person.

Yes, again there were some cliches at place in terms of making Anika return to the house despite Shivaay being horrible to her...but within days, they both fall back into their normal patterns...Shivika's relationship has always stood on the premise of Anika being able to somehow understand even what which he is unable to say...that he struggles with...that is why she focussed more on his actions and what he did for her than his harsh words for the longest time...and then when the time came, she even called him out on his lack of courage to take a stand for her...which he then finally managed to do as well.

What Shivika teach us as a story is that CHANGE is never a straightforward path, it doesn't come easy, it doesn't happen in black and white terms...ki you take one stand and the next day change happens...it's a journey over time, like many worthwhile things.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I get that the IDEA behind this stunt was to show Anika Shivaay's dark/worst side...I do get that...but at the same time, I feel the details of the stunt like him throwing her on the bed, putting his foot on the bed etc. were played up for shock value more than any actual defining characteristic for Shivaay...yes, Shivaay has a ruthless side to him, has always had it...but he was never AS dark as this stunt purported to show...to me, it was a shock value stunt, nothing more...like the recent kick scene for Sumo...these are the kind of cheap ideas that Gul gets from time to time.

The general idea was to jar and shock Anika out of the belief that Shivaay can be mean but is still harmless...that he can't be that ruthless...but that could have been shown simply with kidnapping Sahil also...all the extra stuff they added in was for shock value, bas.

But yeah overall, it became serendipitious in that it invariably ended up binding them together...that's the tragic irony of the whole forced marriage trope in general.

The difference in Shivika's case is that it was never the wedding that forced them to fall in love with each other...they already had a soulful connection before that...this wedding just became an instrument to bring them together...cliched, yes...but they rose beyond that.

Originally posted by: nakshatra72

You have your opinion just like us and we all respect that.. The fixation point is mostly to the people who judge shivika and us fans too based on forced marriage.. (even though they haven't commented here they are out there) And I think everyone agree with your point of view not completely may be but in some levels.. So do not think we are talking about you.. And you were talking about the particular track where most of here talking about what came after.. So I don't think anyone here is offended and I hope I have not offended you.. 😳