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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Prozium

Let say X is in love with Y (kind of obsessed with Y) and Y is independent woman with a little brother and no parents. X has a dysfunctional family but a family still. Now X to get his love, orchestrated a fake kidnapping of Y brother, blackmailed Y by showing her fingers of Y brother and then forced her to sit in the marriage Mandap. X is not even doing this for fake naam khaandaa and all but for his love. Now X dadi will come and say beti Y abse X hi tera suhaag hain. And bam, X all crimes are forgotten. If this is the case, every street there are boys obsessed with certain girls and can do the same. There is no doubt about shivaay redemption, they actually redeemed shivaay but it shouldn't be Anika responsibility in the first place as the base for the same is a "crime". A forced marriage done under a threat.

There is this Korean movie set up in 1820s where twoneighbours one a single girl doing small time jobs, the other living with his mother, grandmother, maternal aunt, father and widowed sister and son fall in on/off love and eventually end up marrying each other. But the boy was unable to give child to the family, so he kind of ask her wife to sleep with his best friend in a hotel room to have a child. But wife refuses. Then one day he drugged her wife and called his friend for the same. The wife doesn't have any idea about it but later on when child become 3 she came to k ow about the "rape" and confront her husband about the same for breaking her trust and integrity. The husband still love her wife, but he also realizes the true extent of breaking someone integrity and values by forcing them do certain things.here atleast Anika have an idea beforehand about forced marriage. The wifee ended up moving away from the house while husband drown himself into alcohol. No happy ending. Now if that was a Hindi TV serial or a Disney movie, husband grandmother would have advised wife to give support to the husband, or their 3 old child will be dubbed as "sing" or mini hung in online forums (wife name was si Han and husband name was hung)..and all will be sweet like mills and boon novels or Disney movies.

Well my point was/is how Annika not walking away do not make her a doormat and how shivay redeemed himself..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: KALVIN

Beautiful, beautiful and beautiful.

Thank you, thank you and thank you😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: swash2

Nkashatra, what a beautiful analogy! I was one of the many who ranted that Annika shd have left Shivaay but it makes sense looking at your POV.

These two are bound/destined to be together and they will always, come what may!
Yes, as dysfunctional the entire family is, they do come together when needed and Annika had always craved for that!

Everyone has their own pov regarding it and this is mine.. I am glad that you liked it.. Family was and is a strong incentive for her journey towards forgiving shivay..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thank you😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MoNaya_Indira

Beautifully written Nakshhatra...👏

The forced marriage track might be just a trp stunt by the channel and makers 😆 but that doesn't help a story or show for long time.


So I would see it as an act of characters forgetting the offscreen drama.

Now coming to forced marriage and aftermath of the same, they did write the story really very beautifully keeping aside all the parallel tracks. The writing and journey of Shivika is beautifully portrayed with details just like an artist doing a portrait, or an artist making the sculptures.😳


The truth is Shivaay and Annika both r in love even before marriage. Annika made her feelings evident to Shivaay and that's the reason he even went on to think she loves him during karvachauth. At the same time, Shivaay always used to hold himself back because of his NKK.

Daksh mu made Shivaay go mad but still he didn't trouble her for that. He just tried to ignore and behave as if she doesn't exist at all.

Only on the marriage day, the series of events with Tia eloping, Richa who was brought was made to step back from the marriage at the end moment with Annika's words, made him act in such a way. Shivaay was told in his face by Richa, that Annika's words influenced her and she is backing away from marriage.

It's true that a person who is angry stops thinking with heart and what is wrong and right. At such a point, his brain took over his heart and he thought abt his family's izzat and reacted in a extreme way.

And as Nakshhatra mentioned, when Annika asked Saahil abt his well being, saahil made it clear he was never in danger. So Shivaay just made Annika believe that he kidnapped Saahil and might harm him if she didn't listen to him with his blackmail.😆

Saying that I'm not supporting what Shivaay did...yes, he did wrong. But at the same time don't judge a person for what he did. See what he is and what he went through or faced just before that which made him go blank and act like that.😳 he is wrong but still he has his own reasons.

Soon after marriage, Annika walked out and returned to her home. Even when Daadi asked her to come back, she right away said she don't consider the marriage. But Daadi caught her red handedly showing how she held mangalsutra closer to her heart even after removing jewellery right in front of Shivaay. That was rather a shocking moment for both Shivaay and Annika tbh at that moment.

So when Daadi insisted, she obliged considering the relation/bond she shares with Daadi, Prinku, OmRu. And she never forgave Shivaay at that moment or even later when mu was cleared and Shivaay said sorry. Shivaay did say sorry but he never expected her to forgive him for his sorry.

Annika was shown to be angry with him but suddenly found Shivaay in problem because of Tia's false allegations. If that was written a little later, then we would have got more episodes with Annika being angry. But nevermind, we did get beautiful episodes even now. Annika even though was angry but still wanted to get him out of the situation as she was the only one who knew Tia's truth. No one besides her knew abt it. And this time Shivaay also supported her and believed her.

That's where there journey towards a new life began.😳 Shivaay inspite of finding himself stuck in many situations, never gave up on their realtionship or Annika...but he bought some time to fix things and to make sure everything was set right from time to time.

He might have hurt his Annika,his mother, and other relations too at some point or the other with his decisions but did anyone think how much hurt he might have felt when he was always made to choose between the people he loves the most?😕

Anyways, as they say, actions speak louder than words, Shivaay might have just said a simple sorry for all his doings which is really very small but he did redeemn himself with his actions through out his journey. Like wise,Annika might not have walked out or said some harsh words, but still she stayed in their relation making him realise what he did and what she faced. That's what makes Shivika journey beautiful and interesting and unique.😊

I think I have written really a long essay...😆 sorry emotions mein behek gayi..😆

Exactly never judge a person because of his past, no one saying what he did was right, we are saying after that he repented he changed.. And Annika had a choice of walking away from that relationship but she didn't, she stayed and changed him and finally she got a home..


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Besides the trp stunt, it was the only way he could marry Anika as he never accepted his feelings for her. She succumbed to the blackmail as he was able to convince her what it could lead to..
Anika stayed back in the marriage as she knew the intentions of Tia and her husband was in a trap not only for him but for dadi and omru and priyanka too who all had made her feel like a family.
I like your take on Anika as the nayi soch.. ya she has reformed Shivaay.. he is a completely changed man..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I find it amusing how so many ppl reduce IB and Shivika just to that forced wedding stunt...lol yes it was a TRP stunt but what mattered was how the story grew out of it...how Shivika were evolved out of it WAY beyond what the typical GEC TV pairs do in the typical forced marriage storylines...these two grew into some other level of a solid unit over time...and it wasn't because of marriage magicallly making them fall in love with each other as it happens in all TV pairs...there was this steady build up of trust, respect, understanding over time...taking the good, the bad, the frustrating that comes with each other in stride...it's a true marriage in every sense of the word.

And to those who so casually dismiss Shivaay's redemption and evolution...I ask which other ML actually said these exact words in any kind of remarriage track...not just once, but twice...twice asking to make amends, to make up for bad memories...calling out the fact that now he wanted it to be HER choice, not a matter of being forced




Anyways, one can't change minds when ppl are determined to view Shivika without context...lol those who take the time to know them, get them.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: nakshatra72

Well my point was/is how Annika not walking away do not make her a doormat and how shivay redeemed himself..


Completely agree with your shivaay redemption act. Shivaay really have redeemed himself beautifully and I must ironically SP focussed more on the male counterpart character development than female arc.

Regarding Anika doormat thing, well anyone not calling out a forced thing..whether a marriage or a sex or something will certainly not be billed as the strongest human on planet..and to be fair this was the same Anika who during pre marriage days had the guts of taking on the world. I agree with others that was a poor TRP stunt and probably should have been shown better. And I understand your pov about how Anika managed to change shivaay and others through her sheer will, patience and love. I think 99% of the people who called out Anika as doormat have no problem in accepting that shivaay is redeemed now and Anika is now the most important part of shivaay life and perhaps of Oberoi mansion. Just that the TRP forced marriage track was bad and will remain bad. Forced marriage is a legal crime no matter whatever the reasons. And it should be shown as such. Otherwise people (the dabangg and bahubali type with strong connections will start treating it as normal). Given Anika history and all, probably she was shown to accept it as family and all was new to her.but don't we need some powerful female characters in 2018, who can call out these things, or who can call out that rishte banana is not entirely her responsibility but also in laws should also take a step forward or who can be shown that apart from a wife/Dil/Bhabhi/mother and all, she is an individual also with own set of feelings and aspirations. From my TV watching history from 1995 (the campus and banegi apni baat days), in the last 23 years I can call out only 3-4 female characters doing that (one in the last year concluded Sony show) and really pined for more in Indian television.
Edited by Prozium - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@prozium

I completely agree with your point.. Forced marriage is a legal crime.. But you are forgetting, IB is fiction.. Usually fictions are exaggerated.. Shivay had to force Annika to draw the parallel between story of beauty and the beast.. I am not saying it's right I am saying what followed is beautiful.. Annika for me is strong.. We have a lot of examples of people walking away from a marriage on screen and off screen but here it's different.. They actually tried to work on their marriage and tried to make it successful.. And that is a strong message in my pov.. Especially In today's world where divorce is such a common thing as shopping..

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

I find it amusing how so many ppl reduce IB and Shivika just to that forced wedding stunt...lol yes it was a TRP stunt but what mattered was how the story grew out of it...how Shivika were evolved out of it WAY beyond what the typical GEC TV pairs do in the typical forced marriage storylines...these two grew into some other level of a solid unit over time...and it wasn't because of marriage magicallly making them fall in love with each other as it happens in all TV pairs...there was this steady build up of trust, respect, understanding over time...taking the good, the bad, the frustrating that comes with each other in stride...it's a true marriage in every sense of the word.

And to those who so casually dismiss Shivaay's redemption and evolution...I ask which other ML actually said these exact words in any kind of remarriage track...not just once, but twice...twice asking to make amends, to make up for bad memories...calling out the fact that now he wanted it to be HER choice, not a matter of being forced




Anyways, one can't change minds when ppl are determined to view Shivika without context...lol those who take the time to know them, get them.

Yes shivika is beyond the forced marriage.. The small but important things are written beautifully.. And the evolution of shivay Even I was surprised sp actually let it happen.. That's what I love the most about IB.. It's what I love about the IB.. Rather than making the male lead as a spectator of his life, shivay still is the hero of his own story and so is Annika but they find a middle ground and they make their marriage work, quite relatable to everyday working couple..
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