Why is an apology so important? - Gul Khan Heroes.(DT Note pg. 7) - Page 5

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Wait a second, Shivaay NEVER apologized for the wedding?? 😕 He has apologized with actions and with words... Not once but more than once.. Just because he has not said the word 'Sorry'.. all his actions are moot now... That is really unfair..
1. Pre-separation - Proposed to her again..wanted to remarry her..Thought about a sweet simple wedding!
2.Even during the latest Re-marriage(the happiest day of their life, when they are starting afresh) ... They talked about the forced wedding and in his own way he showed his regret for the past...that what he did was wrong and wanted to start afresh...- Zabardasti ka nahi...Khubsurati ka bandhan bandhan chahta hoon.. 😊


So, of-course he has introspected.. He regrets it, maybe always will.. He has tried to do a million things to make-up for it...

3. He has accepted time and again that Anika did not get her.. the HAQ she deserves!


You want to criticize Shivaay..please go ahead...Bas also give him his dues where he deserves it!

Anyways, it is all about perspective.. and too each their own.. I have realized and accepted that , Shivaay will always be on the path of redemption.. since that is what this fandom seems to want...*sigh*
Edited by blackorwhite - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#42
First of all Shivaay & Om character are very different from each other.
Lets talk about Rikara first : Om was never a Man who judged a person just by seeing something face to face or he was never a person who can not say sorry directly. His MU is so lame, like just bcoz Gauri did not tell him where she is going (when he himself wasn't ready to say her that she is his wife) he saw a msg & her name in register (there can be so many girls with name Gauri) and he assumed Gauri having affair. Then about sorry from Om I think we will get the sorry of your type here as in saying the exact word "I AM SORRY"

As for shivika: Shivaay was the character who took 100 epi so say a mere sorry & thank you to annika. He himself have admitted numerous times that he isn't good in expressing and his actions speak volume. He has shown his guilt to rudy to Om so many times.
In fact just before separation he did say to her that he was so wrong as he blackmailed her to marry him and he is still guilty of that and have not forgiven himself yet. He told her that he wants to rectify his mistake (He wasn't guilty of marrying her but he was guilty of way he married her so he wanted to rectify that mistake). He told her that yes wedding is a bandhan but it should not be done forcefully but with full content and he asked for her yes or no. yes he did not say exact words "I AM SORRY" but all the above words are more than these 3 words, isn't it?
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Fantasia.



Thats a good POV, thank you for one non-bashing reply. Yes shivaay's character can borderline on being the silent one where his actions can be based to judge what is in his heart and trust me this is the POV i am trying to hold on to and enjoy thier scenes .. he has proposed to her two times and both times my hopes of a sorry were crushed and i am like .. nai shivaay needs to be judged by his actions but then i see him saying and confessing everything else which he didnt earlier except the apology and my poor heart goes back to have another hope .. and i am still keeping the faith that the wedding day will come a full circle 😳


Look I totally feel everyone has a different thinking and thats the best part of us humans. And I love to know others POVs, its a colourful world and their r many shades ...

As for Shivaay... And Maafi...

"Shivaay Singh Oberoi Maafi nahi maangta" we have heard it enough times...😆

Well he says it with Tadi...
But its also a hint that he just cant verbalise his regret and guilt.

We had a pool scene where he was about to say Sorry but she dint want to hear it.
She loves him and reads him she doesn't have to hear it, she can seebit in his actions in his eyes which speak baalti bhar bhar ke..!

If you have noticed, at many instances she has never let Shivaay ask anyone for forgiveness ...never let him because she knows what he is..!! Better than he himself!!

And the ultimate and highlighted was when he bent down his head in front of her before the proposal.
Dint it say all that could never be saod?

He has been a person of Jasbaat, emotions...and not Lafz.

Lafz is Omkara's zone.

And that one bowing before her was the ultimate.

Of course previous to this we have had many instances,
He has done actions that showed regret,

For her For Saahil

Taking a bullet!

And finally admitting... My life is you.




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Posted: 7 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: DarkPhoenix93

Have you watched Ishqbaaaz? Shivaay had a journey of redemption which is more than I can say for any of the Gul Khan heroes. He regretted about it so many times and he apologized in a million ways. Pre-separation, he proposed to Annika as a way to make up for the forced wedding...Please understand the character before making assumptions




wowww, so to the point that was.

I am actually grateful to tm for this post, so many have come out in shivaay's support, it's good to know😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: Fantasia.



I guess i should focus on people who uave something constructive to discuss and are not blind fangirls .

The severity of the crime determines the ease of forgiveness .. i so so want gauri to just push him and leave for once .. atleast one angry reaction is the right of any girl who goes through this .. i understand creatives have thier own limitations bit still a little work on the track would make it beautiful !


It seems Gauri will give back dis tym. Thank goodness last tym ki tarha chup chap nhi jayegi kuch suna ke jayegi 😆
And CV wont work on dis track likh ke le lo 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: blackorwhite

Wait a second, Shivaay NEVER apologized for the wedding?? 😕 He has apologized with actions and with words... Not once but more than once.. Just because he has not said the word 'Sorry'.. all his actions are moot now... That is really unfair..

1. Pre-separation - Proposed to her again..wanted to remarry her..Thought about a sweet simple wedding!
2.Even during the latest Re-marriage(the happiest day of his life, when they are starting afresh) ... They talked about the forced wedding and in his own way showed his regret for the past...that what he did was wrong and wanted to start afresh...- Zabardasti ka nahi...Khubsurati ka bandhan bandhan chahta hoon.. 😊


So, of-course he has introspected.. He regrets it, maybe always will.. He has tried to do a million things to make-up for it...

3. He has accepted time and again that Anika did not get her.. the HAQ she deserves!


You want to criticize Shivaay..please go ahead...Bas also give him his dues where he deserves it!

Anyways, it is all about perspective.. and too each their own.. I have realized and accepted that , Shivaay will always be on the path of redemption.. since that is what this fandom seems to want...*sigh*


@bold red: That's the point of TM that he did not say exact word sorry to annika
whereas pre-separation day he clearly said that he was so wrong in blackmailing her to marry him. He is still so guilty of that and could't forgive himself. He admitted that he wants to rectify his mistake of forcing her and asked for her wish but I guess instead of these words and actions, exact words "I AM SORRY" is needed.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: annikaa


Look I totally feel everyone has a different thinking and thats the best part of us humans. And I love to know others POVs, its a colourful world and their r many shades ...

As for Shivaay... And Maafi...

"Shivaay Singh Oberoi Maafi nahi maangta" we have heard it enough times...😆

Well he says it with Tadi...
But its also a hint that he just cant verbalise his regret and guilt.

We had a pool scene where he was about to say Sorry but she dint want to hear it.
She loves him and reads him she doesn't have to hear it, she can seebit in his actions in his eyes which speak baalti bhar bhar ke..!

If you have noticed, at many instances she has never let Shivaay ask anyone for forgiveness ...never let him because she knows what he is..!! Better than he himself!!

And the ultimate and highlighted was when he bent down his head in front of her before the proposal.
Dint it say all that could never be saod?

He has been a person of Jasbaat, emotions...and not Lafz.

Lafz is Omkara's zone.

And that one bowing before her was the ultimate.

Of course previous to this we have had many instances,
He has done actions that showed regret,

For her For Saahil

Taking a bullet!

And finally admitting... My life is you.





Annika beautifully said 👏

The Man who used to say with full pride "SSO kisi ke samne nhi jhukta"
Same man was on his knees before the world till she said yes.

The Man who couldn't look beyond NKK of a person, now NKK doesn't matter to him at all.

The Man who could have simply thrown Sundari bua and would have taken Sahil's custody easily, same man agreed to all wishes of Sundari bua just because at some point Sundari bua had given a home to annika.

The Man who can;t verbalise his feelings, can;t say sorry or even thank you, same man admitted so many times that he was wrong and is guilty of his act of forced wedding,admitted that he want repent his mistake.
Only one thing he did not do I think is say the exact word "SORRY"
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: angel_nonu


@bold red: That's the point of TM that he did not say exact word sorry to annika
whereas pre-separation day he clearly said that he was so wrong in blackmailing her to marry him. He is still so guilty of that and could't forgive himself. He admitted that he wants to rectify his mistake of forcing her and asked for her wish but I guess instead of these words and actions, exact words "I AM SORRY" is needed.


I don't think that is TM's only point - a verbal sorry..

Here are the 2 things that made me respond to TM's post:
1. The main post says - Shivaay never apologized for the forced wedding ..
Never apologized really.. 😕This should have been 'never apologized the way I want him to'...
2. After reading the main post.. I also read her responses and this one particular stood out to me... "Can u give me one instance where his FB's or monologues were related to that night?"
He has accepted his mistake in public and regretted more than once but FBs and monologues are being given precedence!😕

Anyways, forget it.. I don't want to get into this because I don't see any constructive discussion happening here.. Even if he says Sorry... the next issue might be he did not say sorry the right way...*sigh*

@bold Actions speak louder than words... Anyways, as I said before, all about perspective...
Edited by blackorwhite - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#49
Folks this topic is about Om and Gauri track. Yes Shivaay and Anika were mentioned, but as it was more of a comparison than a comment, that part has been removed. Stick to the topic on hand instead of moral policing.

Regards,

IB DT
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Awesome post
I think omkara will have to go through redemption because Gauri has realised that she has done enough for om n their marriage n omkara needs redemption to learn his lesson well for taking Gauri for redemption.
Indeed, anshuman patience for Paakhi apology was very heart touching and I love Paakhi farewell letter to him.
Edited by Javeria3991 - 7 years ago

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