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Posted: 8 years ago
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Oh dadaaammm! You have no idea how much I love this 👏
I always enjoy your and Sage's posts...they're like breath of fresh air.

I said this in another thread that I may not fully agree with the way Annika is doing this because I don't to see her dragged, humiliated and thrown out like this. But I welcome this separation with open arms. 😃

Will come back to finish my thought, on my phone right and in the process of moving.
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Oh gosh...this took forever! sorry!
So tired and exhausted from work and moving...I can't even remember everything I was going to say...but oh well.

Shivaay definitely has made progress but he still has a long way to go. Annika too needs to learn that she deserves to be loved and be happy.

I think this will just make their relationship stronger...assuming Gul and Harneet won't turn this into a hot mess like QH. I tell you, I'm trying to ignore all the spoilers and new entries but...I'm still sorta traumatized from QH day😕
But I'm keeping positive and hoping for the best!

I'm going to go to bed now...completely drained. Thank you for this awesome post!🤗
Edited by AGirlHasNoName - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful analys and that is exactly what I have been thinking all the time you have put down my taughts.
Shivay didn't earn her he forced her to get married to him and he was lucky that she stayed and helped him and his family in bad times. Yup! He has been enjoying a beautiful relationship that literally fell into his lap .. lol 😉

Many people in forum saying he can Handel this let him know but I think shivay is not there yet and he has a long way to overcome his nkk and it's not annikas secret or Borden to have its pinky and shakti to as you said. Not only is it not her secret to devastate him with but it is also not her burden to bear when he finds himself in despair upon coming to know about it ... that is his parents duty not hers. They choose to hid it from him all these years and let him live a lie.

People not think to this a girl how has all her life yerned for family and a mothers love and she knows how life can be to a orphan and she doesn't want shivay to go true that because she knows he is not there in life to Handel that Exactly! If you have seen a war, destruction and suffered loss of loved ones you will never wish the same on the ones you love.

What freaks me out about this track is this new female for shivay that is trubel and I herd that she is permeated in the show I really hope the trp are low and they don't drag this adidi and we can say goodbye to her I refuse to fret about something that I have not seen yet.

I know she is entering, I even know the actress from QH (and have nasty memories of her) and I know she has been paired opposite Shivvay but I still don't care because all that does not matter.
What matters is this - if Shivvay has not spent the last 3 months in silent torment for Annika (despite what she has done to him) which shows 'FPH", has not lived every moment he spent with her over and over in his mind and smiled at those memories in his solitude, has not made the attempt to hate her enough to want to make her pay for what she did to him, then the relationship is dead.
In that case he is better off with a cold hearted psycho like Aditi

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pickachu

Sorry but I don't agree with u on anika related points.
That's ok .. we are all entitled to our opinions and views on how we perceive things. 😊
Thank you for sharing your views

I never wanted her to tell the truth I wanted pinky to tell the truth as she was threathing anika

Anika walking out would have make sense on many ocassions but not now.Even it would make sense if she would plan to walk out not planning to get thrown.
And what's with that touching everyone's feet to keep it a secret.

Anyways I m very disappointed in her.For me this character is buthered.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Pearl, lots of hugs and kisses for you for this post. I agree each and every word.

I mentioned in one of your posts few days ago, Shivaay's illegitimacy issue is not for Anika's to deal with and whatever Pinky is doing is not Anika's battle to fight.

Anika has tried her best to bring to Shivaay's notice all the truths that exist right under his nose, but since they are related to his family, he chooses to ignore them. He can very well tell Anika that you are not responsible for Prinku getting married and he can also apologize for his mom's behavior towards her, but the truth at the end of the day is that Shivaay is still not at all ready to be at a place where he can choose between his NKK and his love for Anika. That is why Anika is doing all this, because she knows that he maybe able to live without her but he will not be able to live with the truth of his birth.

Lot of us will say that Shivaay will be ab;e to bear the truth but he won't be able to live with Anika. I don't agree with it, because he maybe in love and absolutely smitten with her, but he is not 'Mere Shivaay' like you mentioned.

If we look back to Shivika's journey, most of the problems face by Shivika has been because of Shivaay's NKK. His not doing a background check on Tia and then not believing Anika when she tried to bring Tua's truth in front of him. He only believed her because Tia became over smart and lied about the baby being his.

When Daksh lied to Shivaay about ONS, he believed him instantly because of his NKK, because how can Daksh a guy with such a high status lie? He just accepted it and Anika had to suffer at the hands of his NKK then too.

Dev and Prinku incident, how he humiliated her and fired her thinking it was her who brought into their house to meet Prinku, because how can his precious sister disobey his orders? I still believe Ranveer hasn't changed and he is pretending that he has, so sooner or later Shivaay will have to look back and realize that because of his NKK, he let go of a guy who genuinely liked Prinku and wanted to keep her happy, just because he was illegitimate. That decision of his paved way for Ranveer to target Prinku, who will sooner and later ends up suffering through Ranveer;s hands.

Another huge reason why he isn't still 'Mere Shivaay' is because even though he says that Anika and Sahil are his family too, he still doesn't treat them as such. If he did, he would have trusted Anika and let her know about DaiMa's video and Om's truth when he learned of it. His reason for going with ML idea was not just to expose Mrs. Kapoor and Tia, it was also to get rid of DaiMa's video. Wasn't it because of that video, Shivaay didn't say a word when Sahil was being accused of being a thief? For his brother's sake, he let Sahil and Anika face the humiliation. I could never figure out why he didn't tell Anika, even though he knew that Anika loves OmRu as much as he does but still he told Sahil not to tell Anika.

Even now, when when he is so in love, he still tends to take one look at evidence and in a fit of anger believe Anika to be wrong, like we saw during Prinku's marriage truth coming out.

These days Anika has been behaving so out of character that he keep questioning it, but not once did he try to find out why? Anika is being emotionally abused right under his nose but his and his danger signals doesn't go off? She is tragetting his brothers for God's sake and he is still clueless? His brothers have more faith and trust in her then he does. The step Anika is taking tomorrow actually helps bring out Om's truth that he is not illegitimate, so Shivaay should be actually thanking her, but no all he will see is hos brothers being threatened because they are his family, his blood.

Also, when Shivaay found out Om's truth from DaiMa, he just assumed it was OM, because not even in his subconscious he can imagine that DaiMa could be talking about him. That is how much his NKK is ingrained in him. Another example is Mahi. Om is illegitimate, it didn't matter to Shivaay and he hid the truth from his brothers, why? Because Om is still an Oberoi, doesn't matter if his mom is someone else. Whereas Mahi, who shows at his house, pretends to be him after Shivaay is kidnapped, and Shivaay not once wonders why? I mean its practically impossible to find a doppelganger of yourself in the same country, let alone in the same city. And if by miracle that happened, why would the doppelganger get him kidnapped, pretends to be him and not steal money when he could do so by signing cheaque and cashing a huge amount? Not once did he think that Mahi might be related to him someway? How can a guy living a chawl be related to him, let alone be his twin?

The reason for this long post is not to portray Shivaay in a bad light and justify Anika's actions. It is just to explain that Shivaay still has a long way to go when it comes to Anika, their relationship and marriage. Shivika needs this separation for Shivaay and his family, especially Pinky to stop taking Anika for granted. Let them live without Anika and face their problems on their own, they will be yearning to bring back Anika themselves desperately, because they don't even realize it that its Anika who is that the great wall of Oberois now and not Shivaay.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think after Shivaay realizes he lost Annika for NKK he will toss it in the trash. Also if she had NKK I don't think Pinky would of cared but because she doesn't Pinky is telling her to get lost. Altough I'm also kind of stuck between if she is jealous that Shivaay loves Annika more than her that is why she is kicking her out. Your analysis on the Shivaay's dare is brilliant because at the end of the day the only relationship which he can give a name to is the one with Annika and he couldn't fulfill it (man I love your posts!). Loved how you started bashing the people who bashed about Annika's track. Thank you! I just hate it when people start complaining and don't have patience to see how the track will end up. The only thing that ticks me off is the spoilers thats it dude. I also want to see how those tracks are going to work out maybe it'll be paused cause of Meghna and her brother...who knows? This truth is major part of Shivaay's life the only people in the "circle" should be Shakti. Pinky, Kamini, Shivaay, and Mahi. I really like what you said on the double standards of Shivaay its clear proof that Annika isn't that special to him. Oh my gosh Shivaay what does the girl have to do? She literally took a bullet for you man! That Olivia Pope quote though 👏👏. Excellent usage of the quote I literally got up and clapped right now! It fits perfectly. Definitely after Shivaay realizes his NKK truth Shivika's love will be so strong. Can't wait!!! Can we all just take a minute and talk about the outstandingly amazing Jhanvi this woman 👏. So understanding and loving! She knows the value of special and rare "things" (in this case Annika, Gauri, and I guess you could count in Bhavya). The quote you have quoted her on was brilliantly said by her to Pinky!

PS: I commented your "It's All Smokes and Mirrors" recently where you talked about the song from K3G and I also read you were busy when someone had asked so I just want to know if you had a chance to read my comment its okay if you can't reply I understand.
Edited by Ishqbaaaz101 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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👏. No words to describe your post other than ⭐️
One more positive of this track is that we will get a different setting, other than OM. 300 episodes have passed and only OM is shown.
What is your take on who will reveal the truth and what will Shivaay do after it's revealed : his dynamics with OmRu, Jhanvi, Shakti, Pinky , Kamini (who by the way all knew the truth) and finally Anika.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Pearl loved loved this post and had to read it a few times to wrap around my head around all that you wrote.

Where do I begin, agree that Shivaay has not become Anika's Shivaay as Rudra said he would become one day. He still some time away from that. He does not realize that he was looking a gift horse in the mouth with Anika as his wife. He is going to miss her presence in his life keenly and will blame her for the same. The man who could not bear that his Anika was talking over the phone to a Rohit, could break the phone for daring to do that, makes me think he is going to look for her obsessively, to rub it in her face that he is fine, all is hunky dory with him. He does not care one whit for her whilst trying to find out 'his Zimmedari' is doing ok. Don't think their meeting would be accidental. It is the beginning of a fresh score card with round one going to Shivaay, he would like to think that but I have a feeling that it is going to be Anika now. 😃

Want Shivaay to ruminate over what she said over the last few days and how he missed seeing her obvious pain and distress at his mother's word. He is going to face the reality, not bury his head in the sand aka Oberoi family. He will be seething and fuming over her abandonment of him, that will be the core of the issue and the lack of trust.

Jhanvi uttered the truth when she said that Pinky's fate has only tears now. The words have been hurled and nothing can ever heal the wound. Time may conceal the wound, but the scar remains. A scarred and formidable Shivaay will emerge looking for the one person who turned him into a Billu.

As far as the new entry is concerned, she may have NKK but will not give the time of day to Pinky. She will trample her and may even ill treat her for her coarse language, with Shivaay not caring what happens either way. Pinky's road to redemption will start when her son will not give her the time of the day along with the rest of the family. She will be isolated and will begin to appreciate what a gem she had as a bahu in Anika.

Wondering about Tia and her role post the separation. I am looking forward to the coming days. a new chapter in the Shivika tale. Anika will be strong emotionally and may not let her Shivaay walk all over her or manhandle her like he used too.

lovely comments.by the forum waasis 👏
Edited by nim_var - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I can't say I agree with all that you are saying in this post.
Yes, Shivay should be more clued in to the fact that something is not right wiith Anika. That this is not who Anika is and so there must be a reason for it - as concluded by OmRu. That Anika has always spoken the bare truth without thinking of the consequences hence if she is saying something, whether he likes it or not, there must be some truth in it & he should be looking into it.

But leaving him to the dogs and walking away is not the solution.

If Pinky wants to tell Shivaay the truth, how is that Anika's fault? Walking away is not a guarantee that Shivaay will never find out. Being there when he is told will mean she can stand by him and hold him up through the trauma. Leaving will mean, if he ever finds out, she will not know and so she will not be there for him when he most needs her.

Why should she be there to support him? Because she is Ishqbaazi. Sounds cheesy & cliched but that's the whole point of this serial. People will eventually fall so in love that nothing else matters. If Anika is in such a place, she should be there for Shivaay at any cost.

Sacrificing herself is not saving her bhagad billa, it's merely sacrificing him too. She may not see this as she values his relationship with his mum more than his relationship with her. But she must have seen by now that Shivay does not have a mother. All he has is a user that requires him to perpetuate her standing in society. So whom exactly is she protecting - Shivaay or Pinky?

Jhanvi was right. It's not worth it.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Another thing, Shivaay aligning his self with the new entries would be for NKK too, because if he was ready to marry Tia for business, he won't have any problems getting into business with the new entries. Also I'm assuming that Meghna's character will be parallel to Daksh? So if she becomes obsessed with him and has support from his family, especially her brother, then why would she need to suck up to Pinky, like Tia used too? I bet she wouldn't give Pinky the time of the day and even if she did, she would be only cordial. Tia was a socialite, easy for Pinky to manipulate especially with her having no power over Shivaay. But remember Malika and how Pinky disliked her, even though she was from a well to do family? It was because she was a business woman and didn't behave the way Pinly wanted her too. She was too head strong like Anika. i wouldn't be surprised if it was Pinku himself who will eventually bring Anika back to OM to say Shivaay and their family from Meghna's clutches. I'm sure Anika's words two episodes back and Jhanvi's words are going to come truw. Even with Anika gone, Pinky won't still have Shivaay under her control and when its in your destiny to cry over the raita you have spilled on your own, you will learn to appreciate how much Pinky and the Oberois need Anika..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Just ❤️❤️❤️ this post..!!
Edited by hi50 - 8 years ago

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