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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hey Preet. Great job on the post 👍🏼
I have seen some potential interesting storyline being explored but they always chickened out and chose the safer route instead. It's really frustrating but I guess the cliche route is what is being liked, judging from the trp 😆




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Posted: 9 years ago
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Preet i don't know i shd comment on this matter or not but u r my good friend so i would like to say one thing here. Yes some people think ShivIka are destroyed or others. but watching all epis i think they are not. Yes first i think like that they have been destroyed thats y i left drama and IF but then i watched epis and came up to conclusion that they have not been destroyed. I m not defending shivay here but first his trust was broken. he has always been like the person who beliefs in revenge in all that.he sends her to jail just she threw water on him. What would u imagine from such a guy.
On that particular day, she intervened in his decision. Ideally she should not. Its irked him and then she slapped him. His male ego was hurt. (i am not saying he is right but males behave like this). Whatever he did, was his anger. His family reputation could have been destroyed if media knew abt running bride. His anger blocked his senses and he did what he shd not have.

Now coming to Anika. she was still strong. Yes she cried initially because as she said that aap ne meri taqat ko meri kamzori se tor diya.
Regarding why would anika forgive shivay?
Once ask God why did he forgive us after all of us sins?
Ok u might say God is God we are humans
then ask mothers how can she forgive her children?

So yes anika can forgive shivay because she loves him. It might let some people think she has been butchered but for me and some other shivikians she is not.😊 Moreover, I have always strong belief (religious beliefs) that we shd forgive others. As per my religion one shd forgive others like he or she wants forgivessness from God for his own sins.

Most of the OmRu fans were commenting on the thread that trp has been increased on the grave of ShivIka, so I m saying for me they are not butchered.

But I do agree that ShivIka can't bring trp alone. It is combined efforts.
Direction was good and ShivIkians were happy for trp because even some people including some shivikians might think that ShivIka have been butchered but NaRbhi performed v well.😊 If i talk about particular me then yes i said on the thread that shaadi brings trp and i have been saying it since ages that marriage always brings trp and Om marriage can also bring huge trp as well. Om tej fight if it would be shown properly can bring trp as well. Vanwas track can also bring trps.


P.S I m sorry if any of my comments hurt u guys. I know i m biased and this reflects my comments so sorry abt it. I m human being i do
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sparkle2015

BINGO.👏

Thankyou for posting this.
It's high time people should realize that it isn't the actors that fetch trps but the storyline, I'm not saying that actor's performance doesn't pay any contribution because ofcourse it does. But in acting department I feel each & every character in IB is doing justice with their character.
But to say that because of certain 'couple' trps increased will be really really unfair because if that's so the trps should be above 2 since week 01 because the story was all about them since from the very beginning & everyone is well aware about it. It's shaadi & post shaadi drama that fetched trps, even when ponytail attacked Anika that week's trps were miserable.

Audience get attracted because of drama and good storyline and it all depends on makers & CVs whether or not they decide to give equal amount of ss & good storyline to other two brothers. But I guess we all know what's happening here.



U r absolutely right dear .
Thank god someone use to think like me.
Story is most important part of any film or drama.
If story is not good then any super star can't give u guaranty for hit
😊
And now I think story of this show is on good way.
And acting of actors in this show , they are simply awesome.
So please don't compare anyone with others.
They all are important parts of this show and without any single actor
U can't imagine this show.
Because they all are different beautiful colors of this show.
I m super happy that rating of this show increased.

😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sonikins

Preet i don't know i shd comment on this matter or not but u r my good friend so i would like to say one thing here. Yes some people think ShivIka are destroyed or others. but watching all epis i think they are not. Yes first i think like that they have been destroyed thats y i left drama and IF but then i watched epis and came up to conclusion that they have not been destroyed. I m not defending shivay here but first his trust was broken. he has always been like the person who beliefs in revenge in all that.he sends her to jail just she threw water on him. What would u imagine from such a guy.

On that particular day, she intervened in his decision. Ideally she should not. Its irked him and then she slapped him. His male ego was hurt. (i am not saying he is right but males behave like this). Whatever he did, was his anger. His family reputation could have been destroyed if media knew abt running bride. His anger blocked his senses and he did what he shd not have.

Now coming to Anika. she was still strong. Yes she cried initially because as she said that aap ne meri taqat ko meri kamzori se tor diya.
Regarding why would anika forgive shivay?
Once ask God why did he forgive us after all of us sins?
Ok u might say God is God we are humans
then ask mothers how can she forgive her children?

So yes anika can forgive shivay because she loves him. It might let some people think she has been butchered but for me and some other shivikians she is not.😊 Moreover, I have always strong belief (religious beliefs) that we shd forgive others. As per my religion one shd forgive others like he or she wants forgivessness from God for his own sins.

Most of the OmRu fans were commenting on the thread that trp has been increased on the grave of ShivIka, so I m saying for me they are not butchered.

But I do agree that ShivIka can't bring trp alone. It is combined efforts.
Direction was good and ShivIkians were happy for trp because even some people including some shivikians might think that ShivIka have been butchered but NaRbhi performed v well.😊If i talk about particular me then yes i said on the thread that shaadi brings trp and i have been saying it since ages that marriage always brings trp and Om marriage can also bring huge trp as well. Om tej fight if it would be shown properly can bring trp as well. Vanwas track can also bring trps.


P.S I m sorry if any of my comments hurt u guys. I know i m biased and this reflects my comments so sorry abt it. I m human being i do



No clue why you asked whether you should comment or not, it was for all the forum members

Now coming to your question, Shivaaye was always revengeful, but please let me know what he did to Anika was the revenge of which. For ONS? He knew about that for past two days and despite being sad, he never did anything. On that particular day she intervened in his decision, but his decision was challenged by Richa right? So why didn't he take any revenge from her? And Richa was a girl with Naam and Khandaan so was eligible for his hatred or enmity. About media, if it was about just one day marriage, he could have found another girl just like he found Richa. If still not, as we were discussing jestfully, he could have asked Rudra to sit in the mandap in a bridal attire, he would have been pretty happy to do that. And how was his marrying Anika a revenge at any cost?

About Anika yes Shivaaye broke her courage with her weakness, I had no qualms with her till the day she had married, she had no other choice. But why didn't she remove the MangalSootra? Her kamzori was now safe, why was she happily going towards Shivaaye while she was announcing the name of his wife, this is where she started becoming the doormat from a powerful girl she was

Regarding forgiveness,

Who said God forgives?just tell me according to your religion can a murderer who is not repenting for his sins get into the heaven? Can a thief who doesn't repent get into the heaven? Forget that can a person who drinks/who eats non halal food or forget that who even is a non Muslim and has no qualms about his actions would enter heaven or would be in burning in the hell? Is burning in hell even forgiveness? God forgives the sins only up to a limit and that too when the person feels guilty about that, here SHivaaye had crossed that limit and was not even guilty of it. God would have never forgiven him for that. I really don't know why are you saying your religion teaches to forgive when even your Prophet did not forgive the people who attacked him and his tribe and did not ask for forgiveness. No religion can teach forgiveness to a person who doesn't asks for his forgiveness or is at least not guilty for it

But at the same I am saying that Shivika's track has brought TRP.

I really feel sorry to say that people are liking girls like what Anika has become now, forgiving an abusive husband is one thing and starting liking him is another,
Edited by FlauntPessimism - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Bang on post 👍🏼 Very well said. It's the storyline that attracts TRPs not actors or characters. Yes, famous actors might get their fan bases to the show initially, but as times progresses, it banks only and only on storyline. I've never been a fan of ML manhandling FL and FL nibhaoing rishta for the sake of family's happiness and maybe this is the reason I no longer connect to them. I see no sparks on them 🥱 And even if the ratings have gone up i dont think its something to be happy about coz I can see Ishqbaaaz going down the drains 😆 This show started off good with a fresh storyline, a story of three brother... but sadly it's the same cliched story now 🥱 Sorry I ddnt sign up for this crap... it's high time the makers start showing what they promised to the audience in the beginning of the show.

Awesome post once again 👍🏼
Edited by .Anisha. - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Anisha.

Bang on post 👍🏼 Very well said. It's the storyline that attracts TRPs not actors or characters. Yes, famous actors might get their fan bases to the show initially, but as times progresses, it banks only and only on storyline. I've never been a fan of ML manhandling FL and FL nibhaoing rishta for the sake of family's happiness and maybe this is the reason I no longer connect to them. I see no sparks on them 🥱 And even if the ratings have gone up i dont think its something to be happy about coz I can see Ishqbaaaz going down the drains 😆 This show started off good with a fresh storyline, a story of three brother... but sadly it's the same cliched story now 🥱 Sorry I ddnt sign up for this crap... it's high time the makers start showing what they promised to the audience in the beginning of the show.

Awesome post once again 👍🏼



Thanks for liking the post, if you ask me, I don't think they will show the story of three brothers, the show was, is and in all probability will always be of Shivika. But my point is that is Shivika was not the cliched track of abusive Male and docile female which they are making now
Edited by FlauntPessimism - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism



No clue why you asked whether you should comment or not, it was for all the forum members

Now coming to your question, Shivaaye was always revengeful, but please let me know what he did to Anika was the revenge of which. For ONS? He knew about that for past two days and despite being sad, he never did anything. On that particular day she intervened in his decision, but his decision was challenged by Richa right? So why didn't he take any revenge from her? And Richa was a girl with Naam and Khandaan so was eligible for his hatred or enmity. About media, if it was about just one day marriage, he could have found another girl just like he found Richa. If still not, as we were discussing jestfully, he could have asked Rudra to sit in the mandap in a bridal attire, he would have been pretty happy to do that. And how was his marrying Anika a revenge at any cost?

About Anika yes Shivaaye broke her courage with her weakness, I had no qualms with her till the day she had married, she had no other choice. But why didn't she remove the MangalSootra? Her kamzori was now safe, why was she happily going towards Shivaaye while she was announcing the name of his wife, this is where she started becoming the doormat from a powerful girl she was

Regarding forgiveness,

Who said God forgives?just tell me according to your religion can a murderer who is not repenting for his sins get into the heaven? Can a thief who doesn't repent get into the heaven? Forget that can a person who drinks/who eats non halal food or forget that who even is a non Muslim and has no qualms about his actions would enter heaven or would be in burning in the hell? Is burning in hell even forgiveness? God forgives the sins only up to a limit and that too when the person feels guilty about that, here SHivaaye had crossed that limit and was not even guilty of it. God would have never forgiven him for that. I really don't know why are you saying your religion teaches to forgive when even your Prophet did not forgive the people who attacked him and his tribe and did not ask for forgiveness. No religion can teach forgiveness to a person who doesn't asks for his forgiveness or is at least not guilty for it

But at the same I am saying that Shivika's track has brought TRP.

I really feel sorry to say that people are liking girls like what Anika has become now, forgiving an abusive husband is one thing and starting liking him is another,



I did not want a comment because last time i gave comment and u guys reacted v strongly.
About my religion, yes whoever asks forgiveness can get forgiveness. Did my comment says that shivay should not repent on his action. Gul might not show it but yes he has to repent. but if he repents once he shd be forgiven. Who said this u dear. My Prophet forgave the killer of his chacha Hazrat Hamza because the woman said sorry and Allah ordered my prophet to forgave her. Even she was not sorry at that time from heart. but still my Prophet forgave him. the women who used to throw garbage on my Prophet, he forgave him
Can u please tell me where did u hear that my Prophet did not forgive? please tell me

Regarding ShivIka, I might be wrong u guys are right. Anika might be door mat and Shivay might be abusive husband
but do reply me abt where did u read that my Prophet did not forgive people. If person ask forgiveness, Allah forgives people.

Edited by Sonikins - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I m waiting for ur comment
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I think Omkara sud forgive Ishaana n Riddhima. I think Rudra sud forgive Romi. I think Shivaay sud forgive Daksh n Tia. I think Oberoi family sud forgive Roop. Don't be so shocked? Aren't we supposed to forgive everyone even wen ur husband is abusive? Forgiveness is a very big thing na? Forget Ishaana in dis list as Ishaana was hardly any wrong.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sonikins



I did not want a comment because last time i gave comment and u guys reacted v strongly.
About my religion, yes whoever asks forgiveness can get forgiveness. Did my comment says that shivay should not repent on his action. Gul might not show it but yes he has to repent. but if he repents once he shd be forgiven. Who said this u dear. My Prophet forgave the killer of his chacha Hazrat Hamza because the woman said sorry and Allah ordered my prophet to forgave her. Even she was not sorry at that time from heart. but still my Prophet forgave him. the women who used to throw garbage on my Prophet, he forgave him
Can u please tell me where did u hear that my Prophet did not forgive? please tell me

Regarding ShivIka, I might be wrong u guys are right. but do reply me abt where did u read that my Prophet did not forgive people. If person ask forgiveness, Allah forgives people.



I don't know when we reacted very strongly, I hardly do that. Everyone has a right to say what they feel if you felt that too be harsh then I can not say. Plus I really don't like your addition to every comment that you are biased and hence such a comment. To your question, did your comment say that Shivaaye shouldn't repent, no it doesn't, but you said why "Anika forgave him" although Shivaaye has not repented till now

Now coming to your religion, Prophet forgave the killer of his Chacha when she said SORRY (she asked for forgiveness), he forgave the lady who used to throw garbage on him as she threw garbage on him and not to his own people (Plus throwing garbage and threatening to undress is not ever near to each other). But did the Prophet forgive the members of Banu Qurayza tribe? Did he forgive the people Ubayy bin Khalaf who was about to kill him? No he forgave the people who asked for forgiveness not to those who didn't ask for it. Did he not participate in the battles with those who attacked his people his army?

Yes I know God forgives who asks for forgiveness and doing that is divine (which your Prophet did too), but only when the person asks for forgiveness and/or understands that the s/he has done wrong. But if someone forgives a person who has not asked for forgiveness and is not guilty about his/her deeds then that forgiveness is not forgiveness but cowardice and here Shivaaye has not asked for forgiveness, is not feeling guilty of and hence Anika's forgiveness or even support is very wrong. A person can be forgiven for the atrocities on you, without any issue, on your loved ones of the person asks for forgiveness (whether the person feels guilty at heart or not), a person who repents the mistakes, but not someone who is constantly repeating the same mistake

If that is the case why wont the non Muslims make to heaven according to your religion please tell me
Edited by FlauntPessimism - 9 years ago

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