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Originally posted by: ShivangBuch
Lol. Yes. Let's wait and see. Yeah, weapons also might not be very challenging but it will just add variety and dimension to be more appropriate. On the contrary, names of persons having a particular divyastra in possession would be a tougher common feature to guess rather than names of weapons themselves.
Yes. Got the point about Guru-Shishya. I understood friends-enemy point as it can link anything to anything and there is no subjective criteria of degree or extent or nature or informality of friendship or reason of enmity. But I confirmed it in case of Guru-Shishya because it if formal relation and also can be objectively established. For example, Vashishth, Vishwamitra and Agatsya (?) can be called Ram's guru with some common objective criteria understood but Bharadwaj, Atri, Sharbhang, Sutikshna can't be called Ram's guru. Dron and Krip can be objectively said to be Pandavas Gurus (and all shisyas between them may be some friends and some enemies but this common relation is objective) but not Vyas. Sandipani can be called Krishna's guru but not Garg (he was Kulguru and guru of Vasudev not Krishna). Bhishma and Karna may not be friends but they had common Guru Parshuram and common master Dhritrashtra that is not as subjective to decide as Friendship. But your answer has now cleared the point.In the case of Vyasa, he is related, since he is the biological father of Dhritarashtra & Pandu. So he won't be guru, but he happens to be even closer 😆 You are right - it becomes pretty fuzzy, if not subjective as to who can be called Rama's guru & who can't. Also, Atri wasn't Rama's guru, but wasn't Anusuya Sita's guru? And in which case, what would then be the relationship b/w Rama & Atri?Bheeshma & Karna? Let's see:Bheeshma's father = SantanuSantanu's grandson = PanduPandu's wife = KuntiKunti's son = KarnaI'm split on whether to allow biological children to belong to their parents once adopted out. Would Karna be the son of Radha or Kunti? Would Shanta be the daughter of Lomapada or Dasharath? Would Kunti be the daughter of Kuntibhoj or Shura?As far as the Pandavas & Kauravas went, they were already cousins, so there'd be no need to connect Bhima & Duryodhan thru Dronacharya or Balarama.How dear beloved or lover can be familial relationship? Husband fine. Will relation of Radha Krishna count (Of course if one go by Brahma Vaivarta Puran where Radha-Krishna marriage is mentioned as described by Semanti in Janaki's SK diary thread, then it's fine but otherwise?)? Golok Radha Krishna fine as consorts but human Radha Krishna? Krishna-Lalita? Krishna was their husband as per Gauri's boon while Maharasleela. Each Gopi individually.Krishna & Radha, or Krishna & other gopis do not count as a familial relationship. But Shiva & Mohini is different. They had a son Ayappa, so if one doesn't want to look @ Mohini as Mahadeva's wife, one can make it one degree of separation - Shiva's son = Ayappa, and Ayappa's mother = Mohini. Obviously, this does not apply to Krishna & Radha.Yeah, this would be a fun thing to quarrel upon, like umpiring decisions 😈 - have people forcibly insert a degree of separation in someone else's answer in order to win. In other words, the first answer doesn't necessarily prevail if one can either show that it violates rules, by using guru-shishya, or if it takes disallowed shortcuts and shaves off degrees of separation. 😆
Responses in violetMine red again.In the case of Vyasa, he is related, since he is the biological father of Dhritarashtra & Pandu. So he won't be guru, but he happens to be even closer 😆Yeah that's right. For the purpose of answering the question, that's fine. I was just giving it as an example. He is otherwise related to Pandavas anyhow but I was just asking/telling whether he can be called Guru or not just to use it as example to explain my point since no other sage came to mind who may be closely related to Pandavas.You are right - it becomes pretty fuzzy, if not subjective as to who can be called Rama's guru & who can't. Also, Atri wasn't Rama's guru, but wasn't Anusuya Sita's guru? And in which case, what would then be the relationship b/w Rama & Atri?Yes. Exactly. Once we decide the criteria as to the bare minimum requirement to be called as Guru, then only it becomes objective but deciding the criteria is very tough itself.Bheeshma & Karna? Let's see:Bheeshma's father = SantanuSantanu's grandson = PanduPandu's wife = KuntiKunti's son = KarnaAgain that same point. Bhishma and Karna can be related other way also. I was just checking the possibility through the route of Guru or Master only. But that's fine. Yes. 4 links.I'm split on whether to allow biological children to belong to their parents once adopted out. Would Karna be the son of Radha or Kunti? Would Shanta be the daughter of Lomapada or Dasharath? Would Kunti be the daughter of Kuntibhoj or Shura?That's a good point. I think both can be allowed as a flexibility. But Kuntibhoj and Shura can't be related. Kunti can be directly related with either of them as per the necessity of shortest route.As far as the Pandavas & Kauravas went, they were already cousins, so there'd be no need to connect Bhima & Duryodhan thru Dronacharya or Balarama.Again same point. Just example it was. Take it for example in case of Nishadraj and Ram. Not as friends but Gurubhai. That point is clear though. We are not keeping that relationship.Krishna & Radha, or Krishna & other gopis do not count as a familial relationship. But Shiva & Mohini is different. They had a son Ayappa, so if one doesn't want to look @ Mohini as Mahadeva's wife, one can make it one degree of separation - Shiva's son = Ayappa, and Ayappa's mother = Mohini. Obviously, this does not apply to Krishna & Radha.Okk. But I think some people might argue to include them (or at least Radha if not other Gopis) with the argument of Brahma Vaivarta Puran and Golok consort and Gauri's boon specific for the Rasleela event. That thing will have to be clarified either way in the first post.Yeah, this would be a fun thing to quarrel upon, like umpiring decisions 😈 - have people forcibly insert a degree of separation in someone else's answer in order to win. In other words, the first answer doesn't necessarily prevail if one can either show that it violates rules, by using guru-shishya, or if it takes disallowed shortcuts and shaves off degrees of separation. 😆Ha ha ha. DRS. Referral system debate.🤣 Thanks for clarifying so much. I had understood everything already though but by giving double possibility example to confirm my point, I unnecessary troubled and made you clarifying too much.
I'm split on whether to allow biological children to belong to their parents once adopted out. Would Karna be the son of Radha or Kunti? Would Shanta be the daughter of Lomapada or Dasharath? Would Kunti be the daughter of Kuntibhoj or Shura?
That's a good point. I think both can be allowed as a flexibility. But Kuntibhoj and Shura can't be related. Kunti can be directly related with either of them as per the necessity of shortest route.