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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: bips

I think the point you made about her dadda telling her that she can't be wrong is the most pertinent one for me


This idea that i am right... This self righteousness.. Ki hum toh galat ho hi nahin sakte... That i do everything for love for feelings... This does not allow her to ever accept that she is wrong.


Imlie must have apologised a thousand times on the show when she is not wrong, for love or for respect of elders etc.... But i don't think she has ever apologised once for actually being wrong


And once you lack the self awareness and the capacity to accept your mistakes you become unbearable..


What aryan said about malini holds true for imlie also - a person who thinks they are right and the whole world is wrong is very dangerous

Bold - Probably. We have a saying in my mother tongue which means 'it's difficult to change a habit we learn during our childhood days and that there are high chances that it lasts lifelong'. And since Satyakam was a fatherly figure to her, whatever he taught her would have got engraved in her subconscious mind so hardly.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: rekha02

I agree with most points as said by the topic starter except the leap. A leap is not needed for Imlie to learn her lessons when she has Aryan. About partner whatever flaws AryLie have in each other is made up by the other which we saw in Jyo track and which we will see in present track. I know many want orginal ASr but he is gone and only an NDS can separate these both nothing else so at present leap is certainly not needed both can defeat Malini in her mind games and give gudiya a better future . I again say a leap is needed only when gudiya and cheeku have to be shown as little children. Anyways Iam loving the present track and really wanted Imlie to go to little miss and make her stop crying. I believe both r right in their places. Advice to Malini u want to take away Imlies happiness, take away Aryan otherwise u stand defeated one day for sure.

Trp has improved yet again, the articles r just presumptions not a reality. I only believe in what is shown so far and things look promising for AryLie to come out as winners to show a relation should be like what AryLie have❤️

When I said leap, I didn't mean a 5yr leap as mentioned in spoilers. I meant a small gap where she will happen to be away from Aryan. She has to be away from him at least for a short duration so that she can use her brain to find out what went wrong. Because, now it looks like she has taken him for granted, by not trusting him and not heeding to the lessons he has taught her.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: mango.falooda

there are lots of babies in orphanages -- is she bringing all of them home? there are lots of parents who don't raise their children well -- is she planning to join child protection services to help form framework to help the country's children? there are lots of NGOs that help with children who are sexually abused and giving birth to those children -- why not help those abandoned children? there are religious institutions that have a cradle scheme where people can put a baby in the cradle and walk away with no questions asked; the institution will then raise the child -- why not help out with those institutions so that those children can benefit?

my point is that why obsess over this one baby when there are tons of other babies in the world? 🤷 the optics looks bad for imlie. 🙄



Originally posted by: mango.falooda

it is absurd that imlie would think that she has the right to celebrate her relationship with gudiya when she has a toxic relationship with malini and aru.

what I don't like is that imlie is continously shown as mahaan and giving lectures to all. especially about parenthood -- why because she is pregnant? she does not even take care of herself. please, she is a 20 year old over-enthu cutlet -- we get it. but at some point, someone needs to tell her to shut up and take accountability. instead, everyone including aryan keeps apologizing to her.

it is annoying that she has no respect for law, for proceedures and for people -- it is fine if they show her as flawed but instead they show her as someone who cannot be wrong. why not have her say sorry?

and yes, she is a terrible partner because she does not have the common courtesy to inform before stepping out. it starts out with something as simple as that -- for me, that simple act shows she is not in it as much as aryan. he is an afterthought and is more like her boyfriend who is there to support her. she in her head acts like a single woman who has the right to lead her life as she pleases.

now I don't have a problem with her being a terrible partner or a flawed human being because we all have to learn at some point. what annoys me is that the CVs will glorify her and make aryan to be the bad guy because he is the ML. for once, let the drama roast the FL and have her shown as wrong. let her apologize instead of everyone else around her. please! 🙏

Bold - Completely my wish too. But, I am fine if she doesn't apologize; but is shown at least realising where all she went wrong. Because, that itself will be a big step w.r.to an ITV FL.


Rest all unbolded parts, this was exactly what was going through my mind since the Tuesday episode. But, once I have understood where all these behaviours are coming from and that she had been out of her comfort zone (PD) only for 1year during which she didn't get time to reflect on her actions, I am now ready to give her (the CVs) more time to see whether she will learn some lessons in the upcoming episodes/track.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Perfectly said falooda ji. This is exactly the same problem when she was partner to Adi too. Adi had his own flaws. He apologized for the same. The CVs proving Imlie is the one who is always right is actually irrational and unacceptable.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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yes, you are correct if we are not accepting Aditya just because of his nature, now Imlie really the worst female lead now on ITV. If we have kids also we think about partners in separate ways, our share of love is more to them. as mothers, we love our kids but our inclination towards our love will be more. all of the sudden Imlie behaviour is irrational and neglecting your own kid is stupidity about Aryan it breaks my heart she never showed any love for him the way Aryan showed

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Enlightened21

Ever since the Tuesday episode, I had been trying to understand why Imlie remembers about her partners only when she reaches the dead end. That's how much I got disturbed watching her not informing Aryan before going to C house. Because, it's a mistake she had been repeating from the first track of the show. Then it was her mother who was her partner and she didn't even think of discussing it with her mother, before deciding to marry Aditya. Since then, every decision of Imlie's has been like that - impulsive, without involving any of her dear ones and without considering even her own past experiences. Even in their first PD trip, it was only when she saw that Aryan was not backing out, that she finally asked for his partnership. And in the last Jyo track, it's only after Aryan asks for her partnership that she agrees to it. Even after that she didn't reveal to him that she was Keri. And it's this behaviour of Imlie that is scaring me than her obsession for Gudiya. Because, never learning from your mistakes & past experiences is not a good sign if you want to progress in life. And that's exactly what is happening with Imlie and hence I decided to find out why is she being portrayed like that even after 500episodes. And I came across some valid reasons.

First reason can be her age. I am sure many of us will agree if I say that teenage is that period of time when we all have felt like, everyone around us including our parents aren't right and only we know everything. My own experience with my teenage days and dealing with one for the past 3-4yrs, I surely can say the teenage factor does have some contribution to many of her behaviours. Atleast her impulsiveness and stubbornness can be attributed to her age.

Secondly, the way she has been brought up by Satyakam and Meetti. Yes, the villagers and her nakli nanni used to insult & harass her due to her illegitimate status. But, that never restricted Satyakam & Meetti in bringing her up as a bold, fearless and independent girl.Trained in martial arts, teaching her to drive a tractor and climbing trees to collect honey from beehives, Imlie was indeed been brought up as a warrior by both of them. And going through some old videos/clips, I wished how Imlie had never stepped out of PD. That's how innocent yet heroic was her life there. Posting one such video from SBS, as I couldn't find it's episode clip anywhere on SM.

https://youtu.be/4I_focZ9PR0

The only fault I found from Satyakam's side was that he never wanted Imlie to feel that she can go wrong. In one scene Imlie jokingly calls herself bailbudhi to which he strongly scolds her to never think of her like that. What he taught her was to listen to her heart whenever in doubt and act accordingly; and rest will be handled by Sita Mayya. And I think that's what Imlie is following even now.

Thirdly, Imlie is a person who gets emotionally attached even to bejaan cheezein. If you listen to her talking to them or about them, you can understand how deeply she is connected to even non-living things. So, it's not surprising to see her going paranoid when she happens to see someone in pain - be it a stranger or a pet. We have witnessed it in the case of Nargis and Mirchi, on how they being in danger had affected her deeply. Her behaving harshly with the Autodriver while rushing to help the Ts or her heavily banging the car driven by an old man while rushing to arrange blood for Aryan are all part of her this paranoiac behaviour. So, it's not surprising for me anymore why Imlie is going crazy w.r.to Gudiya, as this time it's a baby who can't even express herself. So, kitna bhi Aryan chillayein or try to drill sense into her, Imlie's focus will only be on Gudiya's helplessness and pain. She can't think of Malini trying to trap her and behave rationally in such a situation. That's how she is.

Fourthly, Imlie never had a best friend where she could discuss and share her dukh, dard and peeda, so that she could think of a different perspective on how to deal with it or caution her of the consequences of her decisions. The only time she talks her heart out is with SitaMayya and seldom with Meetti. Aryan had started filling that void; but marriage put an end to it. Because, now he too is her apna with whom she doesn't want to burden him with her baggages, as much as possible. That thought has its roots from her childhood where she have seen Meetti singlehandedly handling it all without letting anything affect Imlie. And that's what caused/is causing wreckage in her life. Because though she want to be a part of a large family, she doesn't know how to manage many relationships at a time, because in her 20yrs of life, 19yrs she had to deal only with her mother and vice versa. The rest 1+ year she had a rollercoaster ride with no break to think and have an introspection.

I would prefer a leap where Imlie will be shown introspecting on where did she went wrong, learn lessons from it and understand why one needs to be shrewd while dealing with the outer world, thus leading to a postleap grownup beautiful lady, matured and evolved to be a better warrior this time. But with the confusions going around w.r.to the child artist roped in, I will also be fine if makers are giving us some episodes on Imlie sharing everything about her childhood with Aryan and why she has turned to be the person she is today.

This is a point I love and she should. Everyone learns from their mistakes and I hope Imlie develops the maturity to do so one day.

I agree with most of your post.

Age and maturity are two mutually exclusive things. A 35 year old ko akal nahi hai before marrying twice, commits nothing short of bigamy coz why not ?! A 27 year old obsesses over revenge, a 30 year old behaves like a sadist, a 45-50 year cheers that sadist, a 50 year old gets manipulated faster than you can say wtf!! But we expect the 19 year old to behave practicall! Lol the ironies of life. Arre Bhai, let her fall, let her get up. Let her make life changing /life ruining mistakes coz let's be fair yeh jo the above stated people weren't called out on their immaturity with half the censure and vigour Imlie is called out. Maybe it's her mahanta, maybe it's ott, maybe it's just plain stupid.

Malini knows where exactly to hit, it's all the trigger points of Imlie. Malini knows Imlie better than Aryan. She knows how to exploit all of Imlie's triggers in her favour. And she is doing that. Is Imlie giving into that ? Yes. But is she in the frame of mind of think rationally? No. Her only concern in Gudiya rn. It doesn't matter if it's legal, practical or right. Aryan is trying his level best to stop her from giving into Malini's traps but it seems Imlie's sense of preservation for the small kid has no boundaries. That will actually draw lines between Aryan and Imlie as husband and wife.

Doesnot mean what she is doing is right. It's wrong to a certain limit. And she will definitely face consequences for that. Its due her.

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Apart from that, Mein toh kehti hoon, we should advise Imlie to tattoo it on her head and carry a placard around. " I AM NOT HUNG UP ON MY EX, HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY ATTACHMENT TO GUDIYA. I DONT LOVE HIS WIFE AKA MY STEP SISTER. THEY BOTH CAN DOOB MARO IN A CHULLU BAAR PAANI AS FAR I AM CONCERNED. I LOVE MY HUSBAND ARYAN SINGH RATHORE" imo. Kaam aayega future mein. Atleast then people like Narmada, BM and people who think she is justified in accusing/in her "worry" Imlie is hung upon AKT would find sukoon.

@i: A good idea indeed.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Thank you for the tag and you penned the most and conveyed all. Imlie on teens she seeing and living a larger than life so I don't except her to be perfect but I applaud her at many places even though she faced many worst things but still she survived on all. I was expecting her climax of self destruction before Arylie marriage, I thought once it done she will realize what blunder she done but unfortunately Aryan overpowered that situation and married her. Malini and Aryan both knows imlie, she is trying to trigger the weak points and destroy imlie, Aryan understand what Malini doing and trying to save imlie but did she want to saved?? Yesterday she again said APNA gudiya until Aryan shaked her shoulders and shut her mouth it's not our baby. There are many reasons she is so attached and want to protect this baby, on this process she is loosing herself. She hardly took care of her health, she is continuously involve herself on stress situations so don't know how long cheeku will survive. Aryan will be always there for her, that's good and bad at some point. She is immature and impulsive at many places that's why Aryan is there to guide and support her but did she is listening to him?? Her intentions are always too good but she fails on priotizing and handling the situation. As Malini expected imlie show her emotional weakness and allowing her to play mind games with imlie. Whatever may happen this time she will face the consequences. Even it's small or big seperation with Aryan, imlie needs to accept her mistakes to become a composed and matured person. Hope we see mature imlie post leap.

Edited by gaya84 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Read your post fully..while you have analysed and written it so well i am afraid if writers even think about it.

I never liked Imlie's obsession with t family but then I started watching after Arylie marriage. And in binge watch could FF those scenes. Now, I can't handle this baccha track, specifically mahaan Imlie. So am staying away from watching these days.

Also, more than serial, I like reading such perspectives on individual, can use this in real life..but in ITV forget it, FL are mahaan god like, who can't do wrong. It's only Aryan who is made to apologise and Imlie never accept her mistakes, never ever, be it about AKT, t family and list will go on.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovereading14

Before I start penning my thoughts about you post... just one thing:

Not you too smiley44

this is the third time in a week, and by three different people!

Dukh dard kashath and peeda bro are most important 🤣🤣🤣

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