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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thank you for daring to state the facts caz apparently it is a crime to call out her flaws since she is so bechari jisse sach nahi pata and we are automatically supposed to feel pity for such a sorry character like malini.. who twists the knife harder everyday for her own gains is selfish and so self absorbed

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Thank you for daring to state the facts caz apparently it is a crime to call out her flaws since she is so bechari jisse sach nahi pata and we are automatically supposed to feel pity for such a sorry character like malini.. who twists the knife harder everyday for her own gains is selfish and so self absorbed


I honestly don't care if people come for me yaar, I'm here for a good debate.

I really don't understand this bechari Malini label, it's her choice to not listen and connect the dots. Adi has already told her the truth once and she still refuses to add 1 and 1 together.


She'd rather live in a world where she is being cheated one than come to terms that he is actually married to someone else.

He is the bechara, if anything, who had to play it off as a joke because of Malini's frail fragility.

'Legal Wife' doesn't mean much when Adi and Imlie both currently respect their marriage and want to make it work.

I'm not pro forced marriages but it was a marriage with all the all rituals and now both adults are consenting to it and want it.


It never was anulled therefore Imlie is the real wife and Malini is the interloper (thanks to her fragility and Adi's confusion).


I keep seeing people say Imlie is manipulative for stealing her own husband (as if she forced Adi to fall for her, Adi is mature older man, no-one can seduce/steal him, I think he's able to think and choose for himself at his big age) and pretending to care about Malini lol when it's actually who pretends and is happy to close her eyes and ears and let her mom abuse Imlie so she can pine and force herself on a man who doesn't want her.🤢

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ahlaam5


Yes she did and the script supports that, if she was pushed over the edge, why would she return to the house so easily for the man 'who pushed to her to the edge'. Forget that, why did she put on her whole wedding attire to commit suicide, that's not pushed of the edge, that's a very calculative and manipulative move, she was very clearly in the frame of mind.

It was definitely to manipulate into Adi taking her back because she didn't even refuse into walking back to the house. And her entire language about committing suicide is very manipulative and emotionally abusive.


'You always make me wait so I thought I would make you wait this time. You will live happily without me' -The first few things Malini says to Adi.


What a joke of a script but it truly shows her character, she was not pushed in a corner. It was a calculated and abusive behaviour and she said it herself just not in those words. It was revenge as Adi said.


She clearly doesn't care about her mum, dad, grandma and anyone else who loves as long she takes her 'revenge' on Adi, what a selfish action to take in this situation but I guess she finally got some attention from Adi as she wanted. Wish the writers treated this scene/situation more sensitively and gave it the justice it deserved.


She herself admitted to Adi that she committed suicide because of some nonsensical 'fictional man' (we know for sure, it's because of Adi) to gauge whether Adi would get jealous.

Adi is right in this instance, what kind of example is she setting by trying to commit suicide over one stupid man. She's doing it for badla and that's nothing but toxic, manipulative and abusive without a question.

Ofcourse it's her choice to stay in a loveless but it's not okay for her to force and emotionally abuse someone else into staying into a loveless marriage. Her life, her choice and his life, his choice. Adi should have the right to get a divorce from her if he wants but if she attempts stunts like not eating and committing suicide when he's not around then he's forced to be bound into a loveless and abusive marriage with her.

Yes Adi made a mistake marrying her because he thought himself into be love with her but now he's trying to rectify the situation and she's basically not letting him. He should be able to walk away from the marriage should he want to and not be stuck because she wants to save the marriage.

You can only save a marriage when both participants are willing for it to work not only when one person wants it.


If Malini fell in love with someone else then I would happily support her, I can't speak for the misogynistic society and I don't agree with their norms, values and views so don't put that on me please. I hold the same respect and standards for all genders.


So instead of Malini getting therapy, moving on and doing better, you want everyone to suffer in a loveless including everyone involved families? I don't understand that but okay. Malini would do better for herself and her mental health to leave a man who doesn't want her behind instead of torturing herself and their families like this.


You can't force someone to love you, unrequited love is just that, unrequited. You'll only make yourself unhappy instead gracefully move on.


Imlie has never pretended that she cared about Malini, if anyone has done that, it's Malini who cares to pretend that she cares about Imlie. When she wants, Imlie is her family but she's truly shown herself when she said Imlie was only a naukrani, she's happy to leave Imlie in the hands of her abusive mom and act blind, dumb and deaf. She knows what her is like but she doesn't care.


Unfortunately the writing for this show is weak and I do wish they hadn't put the romance in while Adilini were still technically together but Imlie like any human being is flawed and she's in a tight situation and she's very young, he is her husband first and foremost not a stranger.


I do take age, maturity and background into account when I look at the characters.


I'm not making Imlie look good but she makes for a sympathetic yet flawed character and so does Adi to some extent, very very flawed but still sympathetic.

Whereas Malini is not very sympathetic, her actions are very calculated, very manipulative, very selfish and most of all I'm unable to connect with her looking at her age, maturity and background.


It's not anti Malini post, per say, but a constructive criticism on how she's been written so far. Wish the writers would give us a strong, dynamic, sympathetic character but it's also true that people like Malini exist.

They're just not my cup of tea.

Such a beautiful post deserves all the claps n hearts👏❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Why is Malini expected to connect the dots nd infer dat Aditya is fricking married. How could Aditya get married to her while he was already married with another women who is posing as the house maid. Just becoz she fainted? Why cant he be bold nough to come clean to her. Her extreme reaction does not absolve him of not telling the truth of a previous marraige. He and Imlie has made a fool of her, betrayed her trust, insulted her. And ven did it bcum okay to fall in love with anoder women after marrying a women u chose nd wanted to marry. The sheer selfishness and shallow nature of such a man is certainly not worth dying, but he does deserve to b called out for his weak, nd cowardly nature. Forget sympathetic This man is weak and unworthy, callous and selfish and very far from sympathetic imho. A very dislikable character.


The world should spin around the whims and fancies of his feelings apparently. And Malini shud figure out the man is married to d housemaid and with utmost dignity shoud say hasta la vista baby, bless them both and go into therapy and depression. But aditya is d sympathetic chara now coz he had decided now to be in lourvvve nd cant spent life wid his first bride imlie coz of his second consensual marraige to malini booo hooo.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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ok, I have a question here


in the 150 episode , can anyone tell me of one jock Adie ever said to anyone? when did he make a prank to anyone?


I don't think he ever had it in character, so if this man come to his GF and told her " See Mun I love you, but I got married to Imlie the girl that I brought her with me under a gunpoint" with guilt and teary eyes ! how come this be a jock and a prank? if this GF has fainted and telling her this truth will affect her mental health which is too stress her marriage that she was waiting for 7 years is suppose to be held after less than a month, so how can this man tell her that again! he had no choice!

but she had to think why? why this man which never jock , told me this jock today?! why he chose to link the jock with somebody's specific name?!
but it was easier to her to believe it was a jock and not to question anything!

and now after she already trying to add 1+1, and connect the dots, and add puzzle pieces, why not till now recall this jock! it was not a small thing, it get her hospitalized?!

but what to do, she is the bichari who suicided with a plan a head, goodbye her dad and grandma with a smile and send them away, wearing her weeding outfit - the scarf is Imlie's not hers just saying-, calling her husband for the last time and tell him that she was his wife, and writing a big letter so who ever read it get to know why and to blame whome?!!

yes I sympathy with her, she was one of my fav, but not anymore

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Malini’s character is an extremely problematic portrayal of a female character. Her spouse is literally in fear of her reactions and her tendencies for self-harm—-a very very unhealthy trait in any marriage. A lot is said about Malini not knowing the truth—-but given her mental state, who will risk the truth? Adi makes a compromise from day 1 of his marriage—-he didn’t seem to mind it or realise it because that’s how 50% or more of the marriages work in our country. You get settled with a compatible match, and gel with your spouse as a condition of marriage. All consuming, passionate, magnetic love is not part of most marriage deals.

What happens if you realise that you are heads over heels in love with someone else after marriage? Many people choose not to act on it. But here Aditya doesn’t not want to act on it because he has the moral validity of considering Imlie as his wife.

In such a case, I really don’t get the concept of fighting for one’s marriage! How can one save a marriage when one’s spouse is out of love? By guilt tripping him? By making him jealous? By making him a culprit in front of his family? By asking one’s parents to negotiate? By making him stay for the children? By threatening the other woman? By ruining him financially? Even after the man stays, what kind of residual marriage is left behind? 😓 How does one really save a marriage when love and trust is gone?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: rhondasa

Why is Malini expected to connect the dots nd infer dat Aditya is fricking married. How could Aditya get married to her while he was already married with another women who is posing as the house maid. Just becoz she fainted? Why cant he be bold nough to come clean to her. Her extreme reaction does not absolve him of not telling the truth of a previous marraige. He and Imlie has made a fool of her, betrayed her trust, insulted her. And ven did it bcum okay to fall in love with anoder women after marrying a women u chose nd wanted to marry. The sheer selfishness and shallow nature of such a man is certainly not worth dying, but he does deserve to b called out for his weak, nd cowardly nature. Forget sympathetic This man is weak and unworthy, callous and selfish and very far from sympathetic imho. A very dislikable character.


The world should spin around the whims and fancies of his feelings apparently. And Malini shud figure out the man is married to d housemaid and with utmost dignity shoud say hasta la vista baby, bless them both and go into therapy and depression. But aditya is d sympathetic chara now coz he had decided now to be in lourvvve nd cant spent life wid his first bride imlie coz of his second consensual marraige to malini booo hooo.

Why is she expected to infer? Because he already told her once

As Guiltyo0o aptly put it, when has Adi ever made a joke/prank, especially one that serious. Actually, as any being, you would question that, because that's neither funny nor entertaining thing to say just right before your own wedding. After 7 years of dating, I should hope Malini atleast knows that much about Adi.

Why can't he bold enough to come clean to her? Because she fainted and ended up straight in hospital after he told her the first time.


How do you tell someone the truth when they can't seem to handle it, every slight thing happens, this lady seems to end up in the hospital. Even when her mom was telling her the truth, she seemed to be having a panic attack and was shouting the place down.


Even her own mum has realised that by protecting her from the truth, her daughter has become far too weak to confront the truth.


What is Adi supposed to do, how is he supposed to her the truth when she's this fragild and wants to close her ears, eyes and heart to all bitter truths?

He's scared of another trip to the hospital at this point tbh. It's his humanity that keeps his mouth closed and not his weakness/cowardice.

You misunderstand the character as he's been shown by the current writing.


He wants to be honest but the frailty of his fragile wife scares him, lest he she really commits another suicide or stops eating or ends up in hospital again. This is why behaviour like this is called emotional abuse.

Adi like any other victim is trapped.


You can't control who and when you fall in love, it just happens. Adi is trying to do the right thing here by trying to leave this marriage, he's not compromising or trying to settle with a relationship that doesn't exist anymore. He wants out and that is very respectable.


Since he's fallen for Imlie, he hasn't led on Malini nor has he tried to act like her husband, he has kept his distance and is trying to leave her.


Why would you stay in a relationship like this anymore, what is the point of torturing yourself and your partner? You will both be unhappy for life and come to hate and resent each other and it will affect any future kids you have.


Just look at Anu and Dev, that is Adilini's future and Adi is wise enough to know and perceive that.

I personally have my problems with Adi but weak and cowardly he is not. Definitely dislike-able and callous (to Imlie definitely not Malini as much) though, can't argue with that.

Adi has been written to be very flawed and human, even unsympathetic depending on how you look at the situation.


She's already in depression and that's why she needs therapy, she doesn't need to go into one.


That's why she should leave him alone, not for him or for Imlie. For herself. For her mental well-being and her owm health, in this world we have to look out for our own well being and our own selves and not depend on others for our well-being because people will happily ruin you if you give them that power. That's my personal view obviously.


I don't understand why her own fans want her to stay in a loveless marriage and ruin her life for a love that she will never be able to gain.


If vengeance is going to cost you your own happiness then it's truly not worth it especially in this situation.


I'm not thinking of Adilie when I say she needs to move on, I'm thinking of her and her own benefits. It's you Malini fans who think of Adilie and not Malini as per your replies.


When have I ever said Adi is 100% sympathetic? I've repeatedly said he's a very flawed character but atleast he's multidimensional and somewhat respectable that he wants to be honest and has kept his distance from Malini.


He has made a mistake and realised it very late but is trying to sort it out, feelings are very intricate and a lot of people settle and fall in love after. It's all about luck and destiny who you fall for, right people can come into your life at the wrong time.

Life is not a bed of roses.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Guiltyo0o

ok, I have a question here


in the 150 episode , can anyone tell me of one jock Adie ever said to anyone? when did he make a prank to anyone?


I don't think he ever had it in character, so if this man come to his GF and told her " See Mun I love you, but I got married to Imlie the girl that I brought her with me under a gunpoint" with guilt and teary eyes ! how come this be a jock and a prank? if this GF has fainted and telling her this truth will affect her mental health which is too stress her marriage that she was waiting for 7 years is suppose to be held after less than a month, so how can this man tell her that again! he had no choice!

but she had to think why? why this man which never jock , told me this jock today?! why he chose to link the jock with somebody's specific name?!
but it was easier to her to believe it was a jock and not to question anything!

and now after she already trying to add 1+1, and connect the dots, and add puzzle pieces, why not till now recall this jock! it was not a small thing, it get her hospitalized?!

but what to do, she is the bichari who suicided with a plan a head, goodbye her dad and grandma with a smile and send them away, wearing her weeding outfit - the scarf is Imlie's not hers just saying-, calling her husband for the last time and tell him that she was his wife, and writing a big letter so who ever read it get to know why and to blame whome?!!

yes I sympathy with her, she was one of my fav, but not anymore


Couldn't agree more, it seems like Malini in all 7 years has never understood Adi and what type of person he is.


I used to also sympathise with her and like her earlier on but her own reactions to this situation has made her unlikeable to me and I've lost all respect for her.

Wish they would give us a more layered character and not choose the easier route of writing the same old bechari character.🥱


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ahlaam5


It's sad to that she tried to commit suicide for a man that doesn't care about her except she did if for revenge and to seek attention and I can never get behind this type of suicide for this reason.


She has not committed scuicide to gain his attention or for revenge. She was vulnerable and weak n went into that stage, felt her living has no meaning. I can connect to her feeling, when she is educated, beautiful n independent and her husband, goes behind an avg looking girl. When they tried to commit scuicide means they are mentally weak. They need be taken care.


Suicide has treated to lightly in this show and I wish it got the due it deserved except this show seems to glorify it on some level.


Not even bothered here

I want her and her mum to move out and do better for themselves, they both deserved better than this. The only problem and why they fail for me is they both refuse to move on and do better for themselves, instead she seems to be on the path to becoming like her mum; bitter, cold and abusive.




Why will the story end if the script shows us getting herself help, moving on as a parallel story and doing better for herself. If the writers had the guts to do that, she would become one of my absolute favourite characters and a role model (that's been already by the suicide attempt right now but there's still hope for her character for me) except these serials never want to write layered multi-dimensional characters.

This story is abt 3 ppl. So, if one goes away, then there is no meaning to serial. And in india, we ladies, tries best carry marriages. Most of them.bounded to marriage institution. I can bet 50% of population just being husband n wife without love. Her mother accepted love less marriage. Malini would take time. As per current personality, Malini will unite adi imlie if she comes to know the story. This is what I am curious abt, what makers will turn Malini. Till now they hv shown her very graceful. Hope they keep her character that way.



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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: gopi2929


Disagree

Malini didnt attempt suicide to get his attention...she was pushed over the edge. Yes she should be strong enough to deal with issues but she was not in the frame of mind. I dont support suicide but to say it was a manipulative act is hardly right.

And which room is she expected to live in her sasural if not her bedroom? And this has been discussed in many threads, why is it expected of Malini to not give her marriage another chance? Why should she just jump to divorce? Why why why? She can very well choose to stay in loveless marriage all her life...its her choice. Didnt Imli choose to be maid in name of her forced marriage?


And aditya is not scared to reveal the truth due to Malini's health. Adi is a selfish hopeless man who just blames other people for his deeds. He blamed Malini for covering his lie...he has no morality. Spineless moron. And what is the logic in love-happens? If Malini had fallen in love with another guy while being married..she would be called characterless.. But aditya should be excused...he is man after all....rules are different for them...hypocrisy at another level


And why should Malini suffer alone? If aditya is suddenly in love with someone else, why exactly Malini should lay the red carpet for them? Which wife would do this?


And Imli has pulled enough stunts of her own...for a 18 year old she is over smart. Imli's biggest manipulations is the fact that she has pretended to be Malini's well wisher for the longest time while romancing aditya in Malini's bedroom.


Time and again have been reading anti Malini posts just to make Imli look good. That's not how things work.....anyways each to their own


This reply is so apt!
Thank you for saying this.

I know people have different opinions but this is simply not right to degrade someone's role like this.

We all know how Malini is fighting not just for herself but for her relationship with Aditya.

Tell me one thing what’s her mistake even? She was in love with a guy who promised her that he will get married to her and He did. If you guys remember he himself said malini on their wedding that he should have not waited for so many years. Because that time he was in love with Malini. He wanted himself to get married and Malini did all the justice to her character. She is still not being selfish by “snatching Aditya or making him stay away from imlie” rather he is “helping Aditya to speak the truth”


Genuinely I was never a Fan of this Serial even. The way you guys can see spark in imlie and Aditya, I can't. Why I starter this serial is because I liked Malini individually and Aditya individually and also both of them together, they seem to be realistic couples.

But it's indian TV and nothing can be so close to reality.

Be it Malini, Aditya or imilie (I personally don’t like) all are playing good being who they are. Only fault is in Aditya’scharacter which is causing all the stir.


As there are Adilie fans there are Adini and Malini fans too. ❤️

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