Finally a push back on the guilt trips - Page 17

Originally posted by: MuteButton

Lol! At times I feel we are all watching different shows at the same time with the same actors 😆

At times? 😆.....More like all the time. Haha so many posts make it clear people are not watching the story in flow and cherry picking what they want to per their preferences 🤷‍♀️


Adi has been very clear about how token his feelings for Malini have been. There has never been any remote indication of possessiveness or feeling any real fear of losing her. Even the entire time he was doing Moon jaap, his fear was about hurting her with the secret reveal....never about losing her. Important distinction to remember 😛

So I don’t doubt even if Imlie wasn’t in the picture and Malini had fallen for someone else, Adi may have felt hurt over a broken relationship but would have never felt the heartbreak or fear of losing someone that truly mattered.

All of that level of emotion only comes out in him for Imlie. 😊.....he feels raw, visceral emotions for Imlie that Malini never could and never will be able to evoke in 7 lifetimes. He would have released her from the relationship in a heartbeat if she wanted....cuz she has never been that jeene ki wajah that Imlie became for Adi in such a short while.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Meanwhile Didi precap scene mein bhi full makeup poth ke baithi hain hospital mein😆....Pran jaaye par makeup kabhi na jaaye😆....and iske baad bhi Adi ko kuch notice nahin hota.....lol

You forget - dulhan banke saji hui is how Aditya likes her. Malini ne khud bola use 😆

Poor nurses had to get off the bhaari dress and jewelry; make-up tak aate aate thakk gaye 😆

Originally posted by: pamk06

Word at bold and what a admiring quality that is. One thing that was so notable is that Imlie thinks that suicide is wrong as she told SM, but she did not use that to berate Malini for being weak or taking this extreme step. she was all about finding excuses for her action but Malini Di would have pointed that out to all and sundry.

So true....no matter how frustrated everyone is with Imlie ka Didi jaap, it's consistent with the way she is as a person who loves wholeheartedly and doesn't keep grudges against people even if they mistreat her. Despite all the misbehavior from Malini, Imlie was still genuinely advocating for her, asking forgiveness on her behalf from Sita Maiyya rather than tearing her down over a mistake.....stark contrast from Didi woh likes to uchhalo sabki izzat as much as she can so that she can prove herself right on everything.....Imlie's love for Malini is innocent and tragic in its own way because it will never be reciprocated genuinely but Imlie also can't help herself.....lol ah well....then we have to remember that her goodness is the biggest chattaan in this story.....bade bade mountains ko hilaa dene waali chattaan😆....toh phir Didi kya cheez hai.

I think whatever anybody says or he decides, Aditya will not be able to step back. He will try but his impulsive nature is always going to push him to do things for Imlie or stand in front of her. His protectiveness will always be first for Imlie and then the rest. Even yesterday when Malini was in that state, his first worry was about Imlie. Pyaar aur zimmedari mein, Aditya's priority has always been love, but he has never stepped back from zimmedari, even when things were the other way round and I doubt he will do it now. He will fulfill his zimmedari of being the supporter of Malini, give her saath till its required but humsafar to woh hamesha Imilie ka hi rahega. he will never let her go, he cant let her go.. She is his that weakness who is his biggest strength and without her Adi cannot survive...😆.

Like he said initially there will be lot of problems but once they cross the bridge, it will be a smooth ride... So right now is the problem phase and even though they might not be together, they will always fight through it together and that is the sheer beauty of their relationship. This reminds me of the initial days after their marriage when they were at the opposite side of the spectrum but still together because of the secret that they shared.😊It is almost same now even though times have changed.

Yes, they've always had a deep connect even when being apart....that was the peak of the emotional distance between them after the trauma of the forced shaadi and yet still the shared secret ended up binding them closely and continued to build on that instinctual connect which makes them feel like they can talk to each other about anything....share any frustration, any pain without hesitation.

I would so love for this to be pointed out one day how easily they are able to talk to each other about anything....lol there needs to be a correction of the misconception that two people arguing means they dislike each other or don't have a connection.....Adi-Imlie's disagreements and fights actually reflect an ease with each other that somehow is totally missed by the simple minded people they are surrounded by .....all of whom think that no jhagda means perfect life😆

Originally posted by: MuteButton

You forget - dulhan banke saji hui is how Aditya likes her. Malini ne khud bola use 😆

Poor nurses had to get off the bhaari dress and jewelry; make-up tak aate aate thakk gaye 😆

@bold: 🤣🤣🤣

And I still can't stop laughing at Malini's delusions that Adi liked her in saris/makeup/saji dhaji dulhan look.....lol puri story mein ek baar bhi Adi ne aisa kuch nahin bola😆.....the actual day of their wedding also, I don't recall Adi making any special comment about how she looks great as a Dulhan, did he?😕😆....and then woh V-day pe bhi Nishant ke force karne pe diye gift Malini ko of that sari and all.....she was preening in front of him toh compliment bhi de diya hoga I guess....but I never got the sense that he wants to see her all saji dhaji all the time as she's claiming😕😆

Meanwhile can't help but recall ki V-day pe despite saji dhaji Malini, Adi's eyes warmed up more on seeing Imlie wearing the suit he gifted to her😆.....and then hut scene mein, Adi was clean bowled seeing Imlie at her simplest with no makeup and just a simple sari/open hair.

Also, wasn't it like the one time Imlie put on a little extra makeup and bright lipstick for the Adi-Malini engagement, Adi was put off by how heavy it was all looking? 🤣.....toh phir kahaan se aa raha hai yeh special delusion of how Adi likes sajna sawarna on women? 😕😆

Waise did you notice how much she was doing, "Aapki Moon, Aapki Moon" in the build up to her suicide drama? 😆.....like she was willing him in guilt ki bol do mujhe Moon ab, dekho main marne waali hoon....lol but Adi ne phir bhi nahin bola🤣

Originally posted by: AreYaar

At times? 😆.....More like all the time. Haha so many posts make it clear people are not watching the story in flow and cherry picking what they want to per their preferences 🤷‍♀️


Adi has been very clear about how token his feelings for Malini have been. There has never been any remote indication of possessiveness or feeling any real fear of losing her. Even the entire time he was doing Moon jaap, his fear was about hurting her with the secret reveal....never about losing her. Important distinction to remember 😛

So I don’t doubt even if Imlie wasn’t in the picture and Malini had fallen for someone else, Adi may have felt hurt over a broken relationship but would have never felt the heartbreak or fear of losing someone that truly mattered.

All of that level of emotion only comes out in him for Imlie. 😊.....he feels raw, visceral emotions for Imlie that Malini never could and never will be able to evoke in 7 lifetimes. He would have released her from the relationship in a heartbeat if she wanted....cuz she has never been that jeene ki wajah that Imlie became for Adi in such a short while.

Exactly. Like anyone needs more than the bridge incident to see the contrast between what he would feel if Imlie left him versus if Malini left him.

And he himself told as well - that him and Malini would not have worked out even if Imlie were not in the picture. There is just no way he would object to her finding happiness even if it were with someone else.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

The episode cemented a key fact very subtly - Imlie and Aditya’s faith in their relationship. Albeit in their own ways.

Imlie’s stance on the sindoor turned from faith in SM for binding her with it to faith in Aditya the moment he willingly gave it to her. People can say a thousand things to her about it’s ehmiyat etc but none of it is going to matter. Will their words hurt, obviously. But she will always safeguard it, irrespective of what people’s views are. Her determination about staying in Aditya’s house but not with him is a separate issue altogether.

Aditya’s truth is Imlie. The Ts and Cs of the world, including Malini, can try to guilt him as much as they want to but it is not going to matter. It does not matter because they do not matter. Atleast not where his reality is concerned. He does not feel worthy of people trying to give up their lives for him but that is also only because he feels responsible for the circumstances to have deteriorated so far. Not because he has some remnant hitherto unknown feelings for Malini.

There was a sliver of doubt about where he would be with regards to drowning in guilt after this self harm incident but the precap could not have made that more clear. He is never going to be Malini’s Aditya even if she wants him to be.

@bold: Exactly. They made that distinction pretty clear in the last scene yesterday too....Adi breathed a sigh of relief on hearing that Malini is out of danger, but his focus remained on feeling unworthy and the cause of all this deteriorating so much. There was no sense of some latent feelings surging to the surface out of guilt....I'd thought he might be able to manage pity for her but lagta hai woh bhi nahin ho paa raha.....lol the truth really is like suraj for Adi ab I guess....it has made so many things crystal clear for him, he cannot go back to a mirage even if he wanted to out of sympathy.

His truth is still Imlie, he wants to reveal that to Malini and then brace himself for whatever comes after that.....

As for Imlie....lol yes, in her own way, she is just as steadfast on her stance as Adi is.....she will not give up her sindoor in the face of any storms, any guilt trips now. They both have their own ways of holding on to the faith in their relationship and that will continue to prevail.

If this suicide drama couldn't hilaao them into giving up on their faith, toh aage bhi humaare Adi-Imlie kar lenge manage😆. Yes they still won't be able to be properly together, yes there will still be distance but I guess the whole point is that FAITH is greater than all these things....it can survive every storm and all the Didi jaap in the world :P

Originally posted by: PPak

All true - but this is how we as audience perceive it - my question is - is this an intentional conscious portrayal of makers to make her this way OR was it their intention to create simply a mahaan weak but well intentioned person only with no such complications and we the viewers are seeing all this based on pattern. I ask this because to date in storyline - no actor has ever acknowledged this behavior of Malini - Rupi di came the closest to it today and Adi maybe as well with his line of 'revenge' . Will they take this any further? My question is will the makers ever get any one in the show to acknowledge Malini's issues and give her a chance to improve - or will she always continue to be whitewashed and none of her problems acknowledged in the story. Will we ever see Adi and Imlie for example, understand and voice what she is really like or will it always be Adi saying I am not worthy of you and Imli saying - her mind is strong :( because of their collective guilt.

It will make for a much better watch if her issues are highlighted in the show story and she slowly understands them and her path to changing herself is shown as opposed to continuing to be a weak interfering person in Adilie life.

Currently her role in the story to create issues and problems in Adilie life...In future if the the plot requires her to have that change then the makers will bring it out which I believe will happen, long time in future but there will no separate track which will be concentrated on her journey. Even her issues and addressing of those will be used to bring about a change or development in Adilie's relationship.

The problem is people think that this is Malini story and have this weird expectations but it is actually Imlie's story and how she navigates through life with her mix of old and modern thinking inspite of all the problems life and fate throws at her and her journey of achieving her dreams without compromising on her cultural beliefs. Malini will always be used as a plot point to bring changes/problems in Adilie life and how they handle or navigate through it.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: 🤣🤣🤣

And I still can't stop laughing at Malini's delusions that Adi liked her in saris/makeup/saji dhaji dulhan look.....lol puri story mein ek baar bhi Adi ne aisa kuch nahin bola😆.....the actual day of their wedding also, I don't recall Adi making any special comment about how she looks great as a Dulhan, did he?😕😆....and then woh V-day pe bhi Nishant ke force karne pe diye gift Malini ko of that sari and all.....she was preening in front of him toh compliment bhi de diya hoga I guess....but I never got the sense that he wants to see her all saji dhaji all the time as she's claiming😕😆

Meanwhile can't help but recall ki V-day pe despite saji dhaji Malini, Adi's eyes warmed up more on seeing Imlie wearing the suit he gifted to her😆.....and then hut scene mein, Adi was clean bowled seeing Imlie at her simplest with no makeup and just a simple sari/open hair.

Also, wasn't it like the one time Imlie put on a little extra makeup and bright lipstick for the Adi-Malini engagement, Adi was put off by how heavy it was all looking? 🤣.....toh phir kahaan se aa raha hai yeh special delusion of how Adi likes sajna sawarna on women? 😕😆

Waise did you notice how much she was doing, "Aapki Moon, Aapki Moon" in the build up to her suicide drama? 😆.....like she was willing him in guilt ki bol do mujhe Moon ab, dekho main marne waali hoon....lol but Adi ne phir bhi nahin bola🤣

Not once do I remember him telling anything at all about Malini’s appearance voluntarily. Kabhi shaayad 7 saalon mein keh diya ho guilt mein aake and didi thought he likes her dressed like a bride 🤷🏻‍♀️ 😆 That VD we all know how interested he was when he just dropped dead on her shoulder in whatever dance that was supposed to be 😆

Re Imlie: Exactly. In fact if he has said anything about clothes or appearance on his own it has been to Imlie. Once during that engagement and once during that forest scene. Ladkon ke kapdon mein cute lagti hai. Simplicity is what he has always admired. That hut scene ❤️

@bold - oh yeah 😆! The desperation in Malini. I agree they needed to give a build-up to what she intended to do but all dialogues just came out as pseudo desperation more than anything else. And the whole incident still felt forced ki miss me nahin bola toh let me harm myself.

Nice analysis AY

Coming to today's episode ...imlie was burden with guilt so much that poor birdie was not able to think straight ...thr way she was going didi didi It was like duniya khatam hogi agar iski didi ko kuch huya toh 😆me waiting to see after didi comes in hosh how much importance she gives to imlie ..I know she will care damn abt it just like t house ladies 🤢

apu and her saathi ..they went just overboard.. are they scared of moon 😆waise they were behaving like she operates them ...they should really start using their brains and see ...😆

Bs bhi guilt se bhare the but thank god he did not let imlie out of his sight ..rupi didi ne toh jaise than li ho ..imlie ko bhabhi banane ki imlie fan list mein ek aur naam...she literally told adi not to be guilt and pay attention to imlie she needs you...moon has everyone all around her as always but this one is dead alone ..but then nishant came back with didi ka katora of attention calling ..let see kal kya dikhayenge ...

Waiting for adilie confrontation ..my bet is on adi guilty but agenda is still imlie all around ...

Originally posted by: PPak

That is then confirmation that Malini is indeed gray. Why don't the makers then make that apparent? Why do I feel that her character is written to be mahaan but weak - however the way its coming to the audience is manipulative, attention seeking, elitist, conniving - Is that intentional? Its very confusing. Why is there a constant need to whitewash?

She is either very delusional or very manipulative. Makers need to pick one.