Malini and her character development - Page 6

Originally posted by: spelano.ws

I mean strong does not equal rude 🙄 is this to appease malini fans? I was a malini fan and it just makes me upset. More than empowering her.. it just felt demeaning to me.

Strong does not equal rude. That's true. But why do you think Malini is being shown as "strong'? She is showing her weakness when she yells at Imilie. Her weakness is not knowing where she stands in her marriage.

Malini is rude to Imlie not because she wants to be like her mother, but she perceives Imlie to be a threat to marriage. She has seen and heard things that makes her subconsciously suspicious of Imlie. It comes out as rudeness. And I believe, sometimes Imilie totally deserves it. The whole sindoor saga at college is an example. I blame Aditiya for Imilie getting bullied at school, because he should have advised her against putting the red mark in her hair. If he told her to remove it, she would listen.

Malini is the most normal and real character of the three main leads. (unlike the over-the-top Imilie and completely unreal character Aditiya. No normal person behaves like Aditiya).

Malini's character is a little out of place in this drama. I feel Malini, Dev, and Anu are etched from reality. You don't have to like them, but they are closer to real people than any of the other characters.

Originally posted by: Peonies

Strong does not equal rude. That's true. But why do you think Malini is being shown as "strong'? She is showing her weakness when she yells at Imilie. Her weakness is not knowing where she stands in her marriage.

Malini is rude to Imlie not because she wants to be like her mother, but she perceives Imlie to be a threat to marriage. She has seen and heard things that makes her subconsciously suspicious of Imlie. It comes out as rudeness. And I believe, sometimes Imilie totally deserves it. The whole sindoor saga at college is an example. I blame Aditiya for Imilie getting bullied at school, because he should have advised her against putting the red mark in her hair. If he told her to remove it, she would listen.

Malini is the most normal and real character of the three main leads. (unlike the over-the-top Imilie and completely unreal character Aditiya. No normal person behaves like Aditiya).

Malini's character is a little out of place in this drama. I feel Malini, Dev, and Anu are etched from reality. You don't have to like them, but they are closer to real people than any of the other characters.

Why is she yelling at Imlie and not Adi? She's targeting the weaker person...intentionally. Thats why. It's what bullies do. Also her intent clearly is not to protect Imlie. She is persecuting Imlie for her own insecurities under the guise of care - that's deception.

If Malini went after Adi - I would have respect for her.

Originally posted by: PPak

Why is she yelling at Imlie and not Adi? She's targeting the weaker person...intentionally. Thats why. It's what bullies do. Also her intent clearly is not to protect Imlie. She is persecuting Imlie for her own insecurities under the guise of care - that's deception.

If Malini went after Adi - I would have respect for her.

Malini is very scared. And her outburst is the result of her insecurity.

Now Imilie is the weaker person here and that makes Malini a bully.

But you don't have to like her. I don't want to be best friends with her either.

Which makes her very real. How refreshing to see a normal real character. She is like the 80% of real women who break when pushed!. (don't forget, subconsciously, Malini has identified Imilie, a threat to her marriage.) I don't know how I would react if placed in her situation.

As for hitting out at Aditiya instead of Imilie why would she? She sees no connection between the sindoor situation and Aditiya.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: I absolutely do not expect Malini to be like Imlie either....heck, being Imlie is not the measure of someone's worth. Everyone is their own person....Imlie is loved and admired for who she is but no one is asking that everyone be like her.

The reason the comparison with Imlie even arises is cuz people twist the whole issue into claiming that admiring Imlie's strength of character means we are expecting too much from Malini. That has never been the point.....we have only expected Malini to be GENUINE. She can have all the flaws in the world....everyone has some insecurity or the other....heck, even Imlie faces many moments of doubt....no one is perfect. But when you cross the line into fakeness, harassment, then all the excuses start to run out. If you expect people to respect you, give you benefit of doubt in your moments of doubt/weakness, then some basic parameters of humanity and decency should be maintained....one doesn't need to be independent to understand what humanity is.

That is the only reason the village/city comparison even comes up....people make the broad presumption that people from the village must be backwards and bechaare....yet many times, people from the village display more independence and empowerment in thought and character than many so called educated city people. That is the irony. Independence is not just about financial independence.....the ultimate independence comes from thought. In some ways, this story is also showing how facing true hardship can also empower you towards independence. Imlie has developed independence of thought even in the face of so many forces trying to suppress her.....while Malini has had all the privilege/freedoms in the world but is caged by a dependent/weak mind.

@bold 1: Oh I wasn't trying to imply that you expect Malini to be like Imlie...I know you don't. I was just talking for myself. Sorry if it came out that way. :) We all admire Imlie and yes, we are not asking everyone to be like her.😊

@bold 2: You've said it all. Basic humanity and decency is essential and yes, this has nothing to with a person's educational level or independence. As for comparisons, I think they are sometimes inevitable. People naturally gravitate towards and respect strong characters with innate dignity...whereas a character who is consumed by resentment and jealousy that she forgets to treat another with basic decency and humanity is bound to look smaller.

You make a great point about hardship empowering you towards independence. I think suffering setbacks & failures in life is actually crucial for developing independence of thought, this I speak from personal experience. Because if you cruise through life, you're always in your comfort zone...like Malini has always been. And if you don't get out of your comfort zone, you stagnate mentally and emotionally. It's hard to develop any independence of thought in this state. It's harder still to appreciate the value of independence when you've been dependent on others for your decisions your whole life. So it's not surprising that in a crucial juncture in her life when her marriage is crumbling, she's being crushed under the weight of her emotions and is unable to take the right action.

Originally posted by: Peonies

Strong does not equal rude. That's true. But why do you think Malini is being shown as "strong'? She is showing her weakness when she yells at Imilie. Her weakness is not knowing where she stands in her marriage.

Malini is rude to Imlie not because she wants to be like her mother, but she perceives Imlie to be a threat to marriage. She has seen and heard things that makes her subconsciously suspicious of Imlie. It comes out as rudeness. And I believe, sometimes Imilie totally deserves it. The whole sindoor saga at college is an example. I blame Aditiya for Imilie getting bullied at school, because he should have advised her against putting the red mark in her hair. If he told her to remove it, she would listen.

Malini is the most normal and real character of the three main leads. (unlike the over-the-top Imilie and completely unreal character Aditiya. No normal person behaves like Aditiya).

Malini's character is a little out of place in this drama. I feel Malini, Dev, and Anu are etched from reality. You don't have to like them, but they are closer to real people than any of the other characters.

I used the word strong because that’s what the character herself used and what many people were claiming she is being. I didn’t think targeting imlie instead of questioning aditya is strong. As for me being unable to understand her character, it’s because I didn’t notice the traits everyone mentioned here before. But after the discussion here and rewatching the starting episodes I realised there’s many things about her I missed. So yeah, I agree with you she is quite a real character, not bad written at all. But I still can’t think of her as well written maybe because I am seeing her on a comparative basis, I have seen some of ishti kutum and Kamalika’s characterisation was way better than mun’s. If I am not comparing her with that moon, she is well written I guess.

Now, about imlie, that character has to be looked at from a completely different pov as her actions are motivated by her different cultural background plus everything that happened with her mother along with her father abandoning her. It’s very easy to turn bitter in those circumstances but sometimes people also turn out the way imlie did, selfless. But we can’t forget she is a human, she does have some feelings and desires but she is unable to express them because she thinks it’s wrong. Her flaw is her naivety. Her upbringing made her devoted to her marriage and watching adi stand up for her people and his values made her love him. The environment and circumstances she grew up in plus all the events leading to these marriages makes her accept malini as aditya’s wife with her only having the sindoor, but subconsciously even she knows it can’t work evident by her accepting she feels bad seeing malini and aditya together. She is in a constant battle between right and wrong, her heart and her mind is why her actions are the way they are now. Her character is going to go through a lot of changes, this wife thing plus the guilt she’ll have to overcome. As for her not being able to show emotions like jealousy and anger more clearly, I do think as her character grows, they’ll show her showing these emotions more clearly plus starting to take stands for herself. She was a scared young girl forcefully married off, she’s been growing as a character since episode one, with a long way to go still.

Originally posted by: spelano.ws

I used the word strong because that’s what the character herself used and what many people were claiming she is being. I didn’t think targeting imlie instead of questioning aditya is strong. As for me being unable to understand her character, it’s because I didn’t notice the traits everyone mentioned here before. But after the discussion here and rewatching the starting episodes I realised there’s many things about her I missed. So yeah, I agree with you she is quite a real character, not bad written at all. But I still can’t think of her as well written maybe because I am seeing her on a comparative basis, I have seen some of ishti kutum and Kamalika’s characterisation was way better than mun’s. If I am not comparing her with that moon, she is well written I guess.

Now, about imlie, that character has to be looked at from a completely different pov as her actions are motivated by her different cultural background plus everything that happened with her mother along with her father abandoning her. It’s very easy to turn bitter in those circumstances but sometimes people also turn out the way imlie did, selfless. But we can’t forget she is a human, she does have some feelings and desires but she is unable to express them because she thinks it’s wrong. Her flaw is her naivety. Her upbringing made her devoted to her marriage and watching adi stand up for her people and his values made her love him. The environment and circumstances she grew up in plus all the events leading to these marriages makes her accept malini as aditya’s wife with her only having the sindoor, but subconsciously even she knows it can’t work evident by her accepting she feels bad seeing malini and aditya together. She is in a constant battle between right and wrong, her heart and her mind is why her actions are the way they are now. Her character is going to go through a lot of changes, this wife thing plus the guilt she’ll have to overcome. As for her not being able to show emotions like jealousy and anger more clearly, I do think as her character grows, they’ll show her showing these emotions more clearly plus starting to take stands for herself. She was a scared young girl forcefully married off, she’s been growing as a character since episode one, with a long way to go still.

As for Aditya, I think the people here have explained it better than I can. But I don’t think he’s unreal. I think he’s got his own grey shades that make him quite real. Especially the falling out of love part. Nobody saw it better than Anu, she was sure even before imlie he’s not right for mun, she saw right through their relationship. I think they stayed together because aditya never gave the relationship time enough for there to be conflicts which made it was a comfortable relationship. But there was no true connection there. His falling in love with imlie was also a very gradual process and makes sense owing to their similar principles. He’s also been very true to his characterisation, when he understood he loves imlie he knew he couldn’t stay with mun anymore. He was not a saint in the beginning and neither is he now, he has his character flaws, which makes it more real. I don’t like him but I enjoy it, like you do mun.

I accept, Malini is a character that’s real and is written in a good way. But I don’t think I can understand her or like her like I do imlie, anu and meethi. They are characters I can connect with and understand more than I’ll ever mun.

Originally posted by: Krantikari

@bold 1: Oh I wasn't trying to imply that you expect Malini to be like Imlie...I know you don't. I was just talking for myself. Sorry if it came out that way. :) We all admire Imlie and yes, we are not asking everyone to be like her.😊

@bold 2: You've said it all. Basic humanity and decency is essential and yes, this has nothing to with a person's educational level or independence. As for comparisons, I think they are sometimes inevitable. People naturally gravitate towards and respect strong characters with innate dignity...whereas a character who is consumed by resentment and jealousy that she forgets to treat another with basic decency and humanity is bound to look smaller.

You make a great point about hardship empowering you towards independence. I think suffering setbacks & failures in life is actually crucial for developing independence of thought, this I speak from personal experience. Because if you cruise through life, you're always in your comfort zone...like Malini has always been. And if you don't get out of your comfort zone, you stagnate mentally and emotionally. It's hard to develop any independence of thought in this state. It's harder still to appreciate the value of independence when you've been dependent on others for your decisions your whole life. So it's not surprising that in a crucial juncture in her life when her marriage is crumbling, she's being crushed under the weight of her emotions and is unable to take the right action.

Oh I knew you didn't mean me directly.....lol I was also just clarifying the point in general :)

@bold: Agree 100% and I'm speaking from personal experience regarding that too. Zindagi ki asli samajh hardships/setbacks face karke hi hoti hai.....it is also a true test of your character then cuz you realize what you are actually capable of, sometimes far beyond your known capacity.

Imlie so far is acing that test of character as she faces each set of hardships....while Malini continues to fail it each time she faces a tough situation.

Originally posted by: Peonies

Malini is very scared. And her outburst is the result of her insecurity.

Now Imilie is the weaker person here and that makes Malini a bully.

But you don't have to like her. I don't want to be best friends with her either.

Which makes her very real. How refreshing to see a normal real character. She is like the 80% of real women who break when pushed!. (don't forget, subconsciously, Malini has identified Imilie, a threat to her marriage.) I don't know how I would react if placed in her situation.

As for hitting out at Aditiya instead of Imilie why would she? She sees no connection between the sindoor situation and Aditiya.

I see Malini as sub-consciously being worried that the sindoor has something to do with Adi....just like Anu has no proof that Imlie is tied to Dev's deception in any way - but still reacts harshly to her - out of some weird intuition.

Originally posted by: PPak

I see Malini as sub-consciously being worried that the sindoor has something to do with Adi....just like Anu has no proof that Imlie is tied to Dev's deception in any way - but still reacts harshly to her - out of some weird intuition.

May be Malini still remembers Adi once mentioning that He and Imlie got married at gunpoint. (Hope she recollects...I cannot for the life of me understand how can anyone forget such an important piece of information)

Originally posted by: Josupra

May be Malini still remembers Adi once mentioning that He and Imlie got married at gunpoint. (Hope is recollect.. I cannot for the life of me understand how can anyone forget such an important piece of information)

Bingo sis ! 👌🏻

I do now think the same!

The memory while no direct FB but it showed to be present in the back of her mind by her obsession of Imlies sindor drama and remembering every sindor drama imlie did in the past!

But her fear of asking direct question to Adi to get the answer that she is not ready to accept making her attacking the poor girl!

Because you know, me like you still not believing how come a women just forget something like that! And never recall it and connecting the dots 🙄