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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Snazzy_Naz


Very well said as always. 👏 When Malini said that to Adi, my reaction was “oh here we go again”. She senses he’s growing distant from her & the only tool she has to bridge the gap is guilt-tripping. Adi was already burdened with the worry that she’d have another fainting episode if he tells her the truth...now he’s forced to constantly reassure her that he won’t leave her because she says she can’t live without him.

Honestly seems the writers are working overtime to show us just how different Malini and Imlie are. That scene when Imlie talked Rupi down from committing suicide flashed instantly in my mind as I watched Malini say she couldn’t live without Adi. That scene solidified that whilst Imlie may eventually get her heart broken...she won’t value her life any less. This and countless other reasons is why Adilie would by far be the healthier relationship. ❤️



@bold : Totally agree and I also think they are also setting up the stage for Adilie sacrifice.

Aditya already knows how fragile Malini is and she is not able to handle emotional shocks. On the other side, Imlie has been a witness how a loss of love can affect a women and the step she can take in form of Rupi Di. She also saw Malini almost ready to give up till she was reminded of Aditya’s love. In addition, they are also adding this whole gratitude angle from Imlie towards Malini i.e. even though the idea of applying for various colleges was Aditya, Malini readily took the whole credit. It was all “Mein” and “Maine”, no “ hum” to indicate that it was mutual idea of both hers and Aditya. So Imlie whole gratitude , thankfulness and will make you proud was towards Malini.

The other thing that they are also showing on the side is that for Malini, Aditya love is the top-most priority or her weakness whereas Imlie, her priority is her education or achieving her dreams. Het feelings will be deep but they will always be her strength to achieve her dreams.

All this will add up for Imlie to take a step back when the time comes and give up on Aditya. Based on what they have shown, Aditya is very loyal to his feelings so when the time comes, I think he would fight for them but the guilt would be the curveball. Let’s see how they play it out.


Edited by pamk06 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: pamk06

Yes , he can also justify it as “ humnein jhoot nahi bola, sirf sach chupaya” 🤣🤣ending with “ aap samaj sakti ho na Moon” 😆



“Moon, we were just practicing handwriting in Pagdandiya. I wrote Imlie’s name & Imlie wrote mine next to it. Total coincidence.” 😆


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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Snazzy_Naz



“Moon, we were just practicing handwriting in Pagdandiya. I wrote Imlie’s name & Imlie wrote mine next to it. Total coincidence.” 😆



“ Haan Aditya mein samaj sakti hoon. Mujhe tumpe aur apne pyaar pe pura bharosa hain. Mein jaanti hi tum mere alawa apna naam kisi aur ko dene ka soch bhi nahi sakte” 😆🤣


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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: mayuri099

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AY, I did watch those scenes, somehow they didn't have much effect on me. Maybe I was expecting them, that's why.


I would say this though, up until now I wasn't sure if Aditya's display of affection towards Mailini was a cover-up for anything he might feel for Imlie or the guilt he feels for not being truthful. You all were saying it's all fake and he says/does things to distract Malini or himself. But after Friday's episode I am now completely convinced that's exactly what it is! It was so obvious that he was lying to himself and Malini! It actually helped me to see things clearly. This is the first time I felt like Aditya was lying and this time he sort of knew it. I guess that's why I didn't feel so bad because it clarified my thoughts. 😛


Aditya would be a fool to not know that what he felt for Imlie after she went missing was much more intense compared to what he felt for Malini. Hence, such fake display of affection towards Malini. Does it help his character? It doesn't. He is obviously flawed, but that doesn't bother me much. At this to point, we all know that human beings are flawed. I just read this somewhere which I loved -


"Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent... If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chain of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outré results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable." (Sherlock Holmes)


Both Malini and Aditya know that gap between them is getting larger and larger and the more they are trying to desperately hold on to their relationship.


Very nice quote 😊


@bold: Yes, he is lying to himself and I might be in the minority here but I do not think he knows about his genuine feelings,not consciously. The reason I am saying this is and yes it might sound cliched and laughable 😊but he is essentially a truthful person. So he prefers to not say anything than lying.


Hence I feel that he is still totally convinced that he has feelings for Malini and he feels nothing for Imlie. He has never taken the time to analyze his deep intense reaction. First time he gave it the name of guilt for leaving his responsibility i.e. Imlie, this time again it was guilt for putting work before Malini. I don’t think he even realizes that he had that reaction for Imlie and all he is consciously thinking is that she is his responsibility and he had to save her. There has been no self retrospection of the “Why” because there is no reason for it as he did not see Malini or knows that he jumped over her to save Imlie. Malini was the only one who saw it and she is keeping mum about it.

One would say that he should be comparing his differing reactions for both women but again with Malini, he has always put work, which is his responsibility, before her . This is their norm and hence he does not see anything wrong in it. Whether he was actually worried about her and had just suppressed his emotions or not, that is still a question out for jury. For Imlie , again it’s the responsibility which synonymous to his work, and in his mind, he was fulfilling his farz. Ahh, how surprised he would be hear the actual truth. 😆

For Aditya to consciously realize his feelings will require a big jolt or someone pointing out to him in plain simple language. Till that time we will just have to see the PDA and the lying that he is doing to himself about his genuine feelings.


Edited by pamk06 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: mayuri099


Aditya would be a fool to not know that what he felt for Imlie after she went missing was much more intense compared to what he felt for Malini. Hence, such fake display of affection towards Malini. Does it help his character? It doesn't. He is obviously flawed, but that doesn't bother me much. At this point, we all know that human beings are flawed. I just read this somewhere which I loved -


"Life is infinitely stranger than anything which the mind of man could invent... If we could fly out of that window hand in hand, hover over this great city, gently remove the roofs, and peep in at the queer things which are going on, the strange coincidences, the plannings, the cross-purposes, the wonderful chain of events, working through generations, and leading to the most outré results, it would make all fiction with its conventionalities and foreseen conclusions most stale and unprofitable." (Sherlock Holmes)


Both Malini and Aditya know that gap between them is getting larger and larger and the more they are trying to desperately hold on to their relationship.


@bold: LOL my issue isn't that he can't be flawed....and I never said human beings can't be flawed😆.....that really isn't the issue here at all.....this whole story is filled with character flaws and circumstantial complications.


Waise I find it hilarious that there is so much outrage in the forum over a generic Adi-Malini scene when everyone starts crying that Adi getting romantic with Malini automatically means Adi-Imlie are doomed, but a scene where he went above and beyond his usual lying to Malini didn't seem to register as much😆. I guess we all just have different baselines for what level of moral grey area is acceptable. Adi's character has survived so far only because the writers try to keep his sense of morality more in the "obtuse" zone as if he's some naive baccha who doesn't realize the consequences of committing bigamy.😆.....and we buy it for the sake of the story.


But what he did with Malini in that scene felt more obvious shameless lying to me....as I said before also, it's not the chipka chipki touchy-feeliness that bothers me as much....he considers her his wife, that is how he will behave with her.....but it's the comfortable/complacent level of blatant lying that bothers me more....and he did it in that scene by pretending like he was worried for Malini all along. Anyways, the writers like to keep him in that obtuse space where he imagines his own version of truth so he thinks he's being truthful.....it bothers me more in some scenes, less in others. Same way most of this forum cried over the V-day scenes and they didn't bother me much😆.


Re: your last line.....again, what's to say that Adi and Malini are realizing any of that when their desperate cover up attempts are enough from either side to keep the delusion going? I really don't get that sense of realization from either side that they are trying to hold on to something that is disintegrating....these are two people who are quite comfortable in imagining a reality suited to their means and they can happily spend a lifetime doing that even if slapped in the face with the truth.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Snazzy_Naz


Very well said as always. 👏 When Malini said that to Adi, my reaction was “oh here we go again”. She senses he’s growing distant from her & the only tool she has to bridge the gap is guilt-tripping. Adi was already burdened with the worry that she’d have another fainting episode if he tells her the truth...now he’s forced to constantly reassure her that he won’t leave her because she says she can’t live without him.

Honestly seems the writers are working overtime to show us just how different Malini and Imlie are. That scene when Imlie talked Rupi down from committing suicide flashed instantly in my mind as I watched Malini say she couldn’t live without Adi. That scene solidified that whilst Imlie may eventually get her heart broken...she won’t value her life any less. This and countless other reasons is why Adilie would by far be the healthier relationship. ❤️



Thank you, Naz :)


As for Imlie....we really can't say where this rollercoaster of emotions will take her.....she is the youngest of the three and the most vulnerable too due to her naivete....which is why it grates more when people like Malini try to cry victim in so many situations and are so quick to give up on life even after being blessed with so much. Imlie has the most to lose from almost all sides and yet she has the most resilience of the three to survive whatever comes her way.


As for the Adi-Imlie relationship....lol first they both need the chance to even be a proper relationship....it will pose its own challenges when the time comes....but right now they are so trapped in this endless cycle of two biwis drama, Malini pandering, delusional, guilt-tripping and self-obsessed Adi.....so who even knows what that will look like when the time comes....lol....they are in a label-less companionship right now which barely gets one moment of connection before Malini barges in with some nonsensical OTT-ness. It really is something that the writers have now deliberately reduced Adi-Imlie interactions to the point where they barely get minute long scenes in every epi.....whole epis are usually just filled with Imlie-Malini scenes or Adi-Malini scenes.

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Posted: 4 years ago


Where is the Sure Sure wala gif?

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: MuteButton


Where is the Sure Sure wala gif?


I need to figure out which epi/scene to use to gif that😆.....any suggestions are welcome....lol

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar


I need to figure out which epi/scene to use to gif that😆.....any suggestions are welcome....lol


😆 AC ke bahut choices hain. There is one of Aditya also in that car wala episode. Uska bhi ek gif toh banta hai

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar


@bold: LOL my issue isn't that he can't be flawed....and I never said human beings can't be flawed😆.....that really isn't the issue here at all.....this whole story is filled with character flaws and circumstantial complications.


Waise I find it hilarious that there is so much outrage in the forum over a generic Adi-Malini scene when everyone starts crying that Adi getting romantic with Malini automatically means Adi-Imlie are doomed, but a scene where he went above and beyond his usual lying to Malini didn't seem to register as much😆. I guess we all just have different baselines for what level of moral grey area is acceptable. Adi's character has survived so far only because the writers try to keep his sense of morality more in the "obtuse" zone as if he's some naive baccha who doesn't realize the consequences of committing bigamy.😆.....and we buy it for the sake of the story.


But what he did with Malini in that scene felt more obvious shameless lying to me....as I said before also, it's not the chipka chipki touchy-feeliness that bothers me as much....he considers her his wife, that is how he will behave with her.....but it's the comfortable/complacent level of blatant lying that bothers me more....and he did it in that scene by pretending like he was worried for Malini all along. Anyways, the writers like to keep him in that obtuse space where he imagines his own version of truth so he thinks he's being truthful.....it bothers me more in some scenes, less in others. Same way most of this forum cried over the V-day scenes and they didn't bother me much😆.


Re: your last line.....again, what's to say that Adi and Malini are realizing any of that when their desperate cover up attempts are enough from either side to keep the delusion going? I really don't get that sense of realization from either side that they are trying to hold on to something that is disintegrating....these are two people who are quite comfortable in imagining a reality suited to their means and they can happily spend a lifetime doing that even if slapped in the face with the truth.


I understand, AY. He was lying, how much to himself and how much to Malini, that is the grey area here. In real world, it would have really bothered me. In TV world, I just try to keep things at a ilttle bit distance for my own sanity. 😆 But, the last two episodes really revealed to me how delusional these two characters are when it comes to their relationship.


The second one - The list of things these two are hiding or withholding from each other is just getting longer and longer. How can they not understand that communication gap is increasing in their relationship? I wonder if they used to withhold information when they were dating also. Then, it's not much of a relationship anyway, is it?

Edited by mayuri099 - 4 years ago

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