Originally posted by: redhotght
Finally someone to appreciate Ron
I do appreciate Ron very, very much. He?s been my fave HP character since SS and is one of my favourite fictional characters ever ?
Originally posted by: sandali_
I appreciate it is your point of view but there are some points which I'd like to raise, when did Hermione lead people to death and scar them for life? I'm just asking here because although I've read the books I can't seem to recall that happening, in fact isn't it due to her that most of the characters survived at one point during the series owing to her knowledge?
Also despite her being clever than most in the series she herself proclaims that there's more to life than books and encourages Harry saying he's better than her, so although a know it all it shows she doesn't look down on people who aren't as intelligent as her. She even helped Neville numerous of times.
And although I don't condone her using Cormac to make Ron jealous, isn't Ron worse in that matter as he actually engaged in a relationship with Lavender merely because of his insecurities of her previous relationship with Krum? And she did have some right to feel annoyed at him as there was a build up to their relationship when she asked him out to Slughorn's party.
As for her being jealous of Fleur, it may be perceived in different ways but to me it more annoyance at her as Fleur seemed to be indifferent to the hospitality and looked down on things at Hogwarts and of the way she got better treatment because of her looks. Infact it was Ginny who referred to Fleur as 'dirt' was it not?
Hermione hexed Marrietta with the word sneak for the rest of her life. On her face. A scar that will never go away. Wow, she?s just so vindictive. She leads Umridge to the centaurs so they can deal with her. Yes, they were in a pickle and she was smart enough to try to figure something out .. but really ? Lead a person the volatile centaurs hate and want to harm to them ? She could have been seriously harmed ? and no one blinks an eye. Least of all Hermione. You are right, she has helped Neville. But when he was in her way, she also hexed him. I hate that idea .. this whole the ends justify the means and there are things that can be done for the greater good. Yes, in DH, Hermione was borderline Sueish and did save others but I really disagree that most of the characters have survived at one point due to her. Can you point out the cases where this is ? Yes, Ron did hook up with Lavender because he was jealous of Krum AND because Hermione made him feel like crap and played on his insecurities and there was Lavender paying him attention. I agree Ron was also to blame ? but I never see Hermione get called on her blatant manipulation of a guy. Atleast Ron dated Lavender for a while .. didn?t use her for one date to make her jealous.
Well that may be the case for you but for me, her reaction to Fleur was based on jealousy. She?s everything Hermione?s not in terms of looks and Ron pays her attention. And yes, Ginny gave her the name of Phlegm but Hermione laughed at it and encouraged Ginny it. Which is just as bad IMO. Hermione was also unkind to Fleur and to me she had the least reason for it and while Ginny and Molly?s reactions were resolved, her?s wasn?t. And sorry, but I don?t get logic ? but are you saying it?s ok for Hermione to be upset about how Fleur is behaving and not being a good guest ? but for Ginny it isn?t ? Even though Fleur?s insulting Ginny?s house and parents ?
And sorry but you do realize that Hermione ridiculed Luna a lot as well right ? Not just Ron. And Ron actually states that he?s starting to like Luna in HBP.
Originally posted by: redhotght
The only problem I had with Ginny was when she told Ron that Hermione had snogged Krum...I mean was it necessary to tell him dat? and he should get some snogging experience since he only kisses aunt muriel's photograph also she cristised Hermy about quidditch...those where pretty mean things to say about my fav characters Ron and hermy...so I guess that is why I dont like her that much but otherwise she's good...great quidditch player and all
You know what, Ron?s my favourite character but I really disliked him at that moment. He was so sexist .. wow, kissing her boyfriend in a deserted corridor makes his sister a slut ? And then he worried about how that reflected on him ? It?s the only time I wanted to slap Ron ever ? it is NOT okay to slander your sister?s character on any girl?s character like that. And so damn unneccsary. I have many brothers but I know they are smart enough not to be that stupid and idiotic even though they are protective. He had no problem with Harry kissing Cho at all and really, that Krum line was used by Ginny to make Ron get off her back ? all your friends are kissing people but you don?t say anything to them, why me .. it?s pretty obvious to me that a Ron/Hermione relationship was not expected by the general Hogwarts population no matter what rapid Ron/Hermione shippers think ? only Harry who spends all his time with them would think like that.
To me, Hermione got what she deserved. For one, Harry is feeling bad enough about the horrible thing he did, but really you are still going to pester on about grades and marks and stuff. Saying the book was bad and all is fine but marks ?Grow up please and stop being so trivial. And then, both Ron and Harry get her to stop but she goes on and is all nasty and stuff. Then, Ginny also jumps in to ask her to stop. Then she uses quidditch and insults Ron and Ginny ?. Seriously Hermione, Ron and Ginny won the match last year ? have some freaking faith in your friends huh ? And don?t tell them they should be on your side because of quidditch when you are being so freaking petty. And she tries to guilt Harry about getting to see her side using the one thing Harry really loves ? Is this girl for real ?!?! I wanted to slap her so hard in that scene. I?m sorry but Hermione was being insufferable and it?s true ? she doesn?t know anything about it and what she did was just low. Just my opinion of course, that?s how I read it. Not everyone will feel that way and that?s fine. That?s the way I read it and my dislike of Hermione grew even more with that scene. I realize people love her for her uptight, know it all, nagging attitude but I don?t and so I think that?s a valid reason to dislike Hermione not some retarded I am jealous of her reason. I dislike people like that in real life as well.
But I guess that?s one of the things I like about Ginny. I was really sick and tired of no one telling Ron and Hermione off when they are just wrong and insulting other people ? no one seemed to stand up for themselves to them and I am glad Ginny stands up for herself when her brother calls her a slut or her friend says that they can?t win without Harry. But I know many people who like Ron and Hermione hate for it. Seems pretty damn illogical to me but hey what can you do ?
Everyone has their own interpretations and likes and dislikes and that?s the beauty of it all.
Originally posted by: stranger@mirror
Kindly ignore that post, some people are just jealous of hermy and say such things. Why do u bother talking with someone who thinks that Umbridge is comaparable to Hermy??
LMAO. I?m sorry but are you being serious ? That is the single most retarded thing I have ever read and I have read a lot of that around here. Why would I be jealous of a FICTIONAL character ? Especially someone I have my reasons for disliking. And for what ? She gets good grades ? So do I .... without any of the damn effort she outs into it so I also get to have a life. Fact ? Hermione loves her rules and enforces them. Umbridge loves and enforces her rules. Fact - Hermione hexes a girl on her face for the rest of her life because she went against what Hermione stood for. Umbridge does the same to Harry. Hermione does EXACTLY the same think and yet I am not supposed to think they are comparable when they both etch words onto a person?s skin ? Wow, yeah I am totally making that up that they have their similarities. Seriously, get a grip. And there are many others who think so ?.
Actually, I think why I dislike Hermione even more than I should is because of her fans. Ginny?s a rude floozy for kissing Harry and people hate her for it. Fine. Hermione does the same and she?s cool. Fine. Double standards galore. I don?t like Hermione, so that means I?m jealous. Be a mature person and respect my opinions. Oh wait, I guess that?s why you don?t like Ginny ? you are jealous of her. Seriously. How about you grow up ? You hate Ginny and what not ? well that?s how much I dislike Hermione. No matter what ? I can?t like her. People do that with other characaters including the one you dislike Ginny and you deal with it so just do the sa,me thing. Just accept it without being so petty and juvenile. Things you supposedly hate. But thanks for showing me that is one forum where opinions are generally not accepted. But kindly ignore my post .. probably much better.
I like Dacro-Luna too. I don?t really see the Harry-Luna thing but each to their own, I can respect people have their opinions.
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