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Posted: 7 years ago
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Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The more you try to analyze Ranveer and his motives the more perplexed you are. It's the good kind of course. The one that comes with an intriguing puzzle. What I've been finding interesting about Ranveer is his almost mechanical approach toward everything. In chess after four moves there is a combination of 288 billion moves possible. In fact in any study of logic to create a proof you must deductively prove a pattern that applies to all conditions.

Interestingly, Ranveer's dialogues have a way to do that.
'Jo log achhai se khareede nahi jaate woh log sachhai se khareede jaate hain. Yeh mera experience hai.'
'Woh yeh bhi jaante hain ke Raichand family apni taakat ka ghalat istimaal nahi karti.'
'Agar main sachha hoon toh meri sachhai saabit kijiye. Daraane dhamkaane se sachhai nahi sirf kusoor saabit hota hai.'
'Mujhe apne sach pe poora yaqeen hai kabir. Aur sach ko saabit kiya jaata hai. Usey daraya nahi jaata.'
'Agar mujhpe yaqeen hai toh yeh sach tu saabit kar Kabir.'
'Tumhe bharosa hai ke yeh khoon maine kiya?'
'Jiski keemat sach ho uska koi khareedaar nahi hota. Jiska yaqeen sach ho uski koi keemat nahi hoti.'
'Hum wohi dekhte hain jo humein tassali deta hai. Isliye tumhein meri aankhon mein sach nahi dikha.'
'Kal ka intezaar hoga.'

'teri himmat hi teri achhai hai. Aur dunya yeh achhai nahi samajhti Ranveer.'


The discourse has a few repeating qualities. Ranveer often classifies people in categories. In his experience he exactly knows the kinds of people you can buy and how can you buy them. But Ranveer doesn't overestimate anyone. He knows some people cannot be bought monetarily but it doesn't mean people cannot be bought. And that is probably the game he plays. In the end Ranveer's game is about ends. His ends. The ends he wants. He talks a lot about Qeemat and Khareedari. Like a true businessman he knows everyone ticks a certain way but Ranveer also doesn't have an arrogant forceful approach about going in.

So why not, since he's so powerful, stay at home and wait for the court hearing? Why trust Kabir to pull him out of such a big thing? What if he fails? Why go to jail in the first place? Why cooperate so easily? Why be passive and ask others to prove your truth? Why not do it yourself? Why care enough to get Aanchal out of jail?

And there in adds the same discourse. Sachhai. Achhai. the two words that appear repetitively in his dialogues and dialogues related to him. Because Ranveer's image is that of a 'dharmaatma'. He's not an ordinary person to people. He's their dharmaatma. He's spiritual almost. He's above human pettiness and human follies. He's almost God-like in his image. And perhaps that's his facade. Because Ranveer cannot leave anything to chance. He's meticulous. He follows the law, he respects the law, he shows belief in his truth, all qualities of a superlative dharmaatma that the people around him take him to be.

But why? He's a man of principles. A man who follows his own rulebook. A man who has an invisible power over people who do his biddings. But he never outwardly says anything. He only implies.

This means he does know that his truth will be proven in the court tomorrow. He does know that Kabir will do whatever it takes and Kabir isn't constrained by a public image but purely controlled by his emotions. And he knows he'll be out. And perhaps by doing all of this there is much to gain for him. A double profit deal has already happened.

He plays shrewdly, calculatingly and probably knows all the possible outcomes even before he's made his moves. That's because such kind of power demands cunning. And if this is a game, his experience has taught him how to be a master player. four moves ahead.

"Patience is power.
Patience is not an absence of action;
rather it is "timing"
it waits on the right time to act,
for the right principles
and in the right way.
- Fulton J. Sheen


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Posted: 7 years ago
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'You must take your opponet into a deep, dark forest where 2+2=5 and the path leading out is only wide enough for one'. - Mikhail Tal.


Doesn't that sound so Ranvir Raichand to you? It does to me. And mann, I have to tell you this even though I don't quite like the comparison as much myself owing to what she eventually became but Ranvir reminds me so much of Maya. The same calm and collective approach, the same cold and calculated stares, the all knowing being, the same insane conviction in oneself, the same thoko monologue thingy (😆), that's all so initial-Maya too.


Anyhoo, Ranvir, the character stole the show for me today, especially his dialogue (quite liked his other monologues as well) about being the takkat : power himself and asserting that true winning isn't in being the air or being the tree but being the power itself and yielding it accordingly. I'm still sceptical about how genuine his relationship with his mother and brother is because they seem too adorable and yet too suspicious. To me, beyond the whole equation the family seems to share which may or may not be genuine, Ranvir appeared to have reigned his way through everyone's emotions. Almost like manipulation, emotional exploitation, like moving the pawns in the game of the chess. Except he isn't any ordinary player, he's the grand master. That whole sense of ambiguity, enigma, and thrill about him as me on the edge. He led Aanchal, Kabir and his mother into spinning the wheels in motions, all of them working towards the very same agenda, just in their own respective ways that'd eventually lead to the disclosure of truth thereby proving his innocence. This guy, he definitely is something h u g e. Also, Zayed's growing on me, today has to be the first episode he seems to have gained a grip on his character. He needs to keep his eyes wide open though. Half the time, it seems as if he's just about to doze off. 🤣


Nothing much to say on Aanchal and Kabir than we already have. I do expect the performances by all three to keep getting better with time though. That's essential because for a change, all 3 characters seem to have been written well, at least for now. Oh and KaVir's mother though, her character again has too many parallels going on with EHT's Sakshi Goenka.


PS I'm not into shipping anyone with anyone for now as shipping tends to cause all the havoc. Seriously though, is it necessary to have a love triangle? 🤔 Oh, it does, of course because hindi tv shows thrive on it big time. 😆 BUT Ranvir and Aanchal already do have a thing going on in their favour; chemistry. Some sparks, I can see.

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OMG LEMME GO READ THE MAIN POST.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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YOU ARE NOT THE MOST USELESS PERSON IN THE GALAXY🤗
Aak kal key bachhey though, homework shomework karna nahi kya, bas shows par essay likwalo inse 😳



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Edited by SilentSilver - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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DUDE. 😳 We BOTH just HAD to draw the chess analogies, didn't we? OMG ILY. 😳 🤗 You though, you woman, you're just...brilliance. I can't say no more after reading that main post. *Cries* SO AGREEED.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: .annihilation.



'You must take your opponet into a deep, dark forest where 2+2=5 and the path leading out is only wide enough for one'. - Mikhail Tal.


Doesn't that sound so Ranvir Raichand to you? It does to me. And mann, I have to tell you this even though I don't quite like the comparison as much myself owing to what she eventually became but Ranvir reminds me so much of Maya. The same calm and collective approach, the same cold and calculated stares, the all knowing being, the same insane conviction in oneself, the same thoko monologue thingy (😆), that's all so initial-Maya too.


AHAHA yes! the beggining Maya, the sauve calculative Maya. There's something so cold-blooded about Ranveer and yet he shows these moments of human fragility, very little, very subtle and they leave you thinking was this even legit or was he faking? He's an enigma. There's so much conviction with which he says his dialogues(DEF that thoko monologue thingy with Maya. This better not become as repetitive and ott as hers did😆) . But I think the one up for Ranveer is that he would never ever give the vibes of antagonism. With Maya everyone steered clear of her because she was anti-social and unapproachable from the beggining. Ranveer on the other hand has this God-like ethereal persona where people think he can do no wrong. And that adds to the ambiguity. The more you know him the more you don't know him.😆 Because he's probably feeding us the assumptions he wants us to make.


Anyhoo, Ranvir, the character stole the show for me today, especially his dialogue (quite liked his other monologues as well) about being the takkat : power himself and asserting that true winning isn't in being the air or being the tree but being the power itself and yielding it accordingly. I'm still sceptical about how genuine his relationship with his mother and brother is because they seem too adorable and yet too suspicious. To me, beyond the whole equation the family seems to share which may or may not be genuine, Ranvir appeared to have reigned his way through everyone's emotions. Almost like manipulation, emotional exploitation, like moving the pawns in the game of the chess. Except he isn't any ordinary player, he's the grand master. That whole sense of ambiguity, enigma, and thrill about him as me on the edge. He led Aanchal, Kabir and his mother into spinning the wheels in motions, all of them working towards the very same agenda, just in their own respective ways that'd eventually lead to the disclosure of truth thereby proving his innocence. This guy, he definitely is something h u g e. Also, Zayed's growing on me, today has to be the first episode he seems to have gained a grip on his character. He needs to keep his eyes wide open though. Half the time, it seems as if he's just about to doze off. 🤣


OMG THIS IS DITTO WHAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT ^^ SURREAL. His dialogue about taakat and power and being the force that affects every object around its orbit. Because he is that. He's not the one who can ever be affected. Because he's the prime mover. The person who sets everything in motion. The avalanche that takes the form it desires. Is it possible he manipulates his mom too? I've no idea. Or is this a genuine relationship? Like I said the more I know him the more I don't know him.😆 The family dynamic is pretty interesting. And word to him spinning all in wheels so they're all doing exactly what he wants. OMG SAMEE!! HE'S GROWING ON ME MAN. Loved how he did those eye brow raises today and the 'so frustrating' part was yowzaa!!

🤣🤣🤣 OMG YES toward the ending especially but Ah. that was one minor thing I can overlook for how good Ranveer was today.

Nothing much to say on Aanchal and Kabir than we already have. I do expect the performances by all three to keep getting better with time though. That's essential because for a change, all 3 characters seem to have been written well, at least for now. Oh and KaVir's mother though, her character again has too many parallels going on with EHT's Sakshi Goenka.


PS I'm not into shipping anyone with anyone for now as shipping tends to cause all the havoc. Seriously though, is it necessary to have a love triangle? 🤔 Oh, it does, of course because hindi tv shows thrive on it big time. 😆 BUT Ranvir and Aanchal already do have a thing going on in their favour; chemistry. Some sparks, I can see.

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Same I'm not shipping anyone and Idk why people are so eagerly jumping onto ships right off the bat. At least give it time. But I definitely see myself in the Ranveer camp whenever it happens. Not sure of it but the probability is that and also because he's the one who's fascinating me so so much! I just want to know what he thinks.😆 Word to well conceived characters. Tho I feel like Aanchal too is impulsive like Kabir. She lets passion take over rational and that could be a big flaw especially considering she's a lawyer. She doesn't have the cool suaveness of one because inherently she's more an activist.


P.S. Don't know bout it being a daily thing I guess. Depends on workload.😭 ALSO LOVE LOVE THE QUOTE YOU USED AND YOUR ANALYSIS! I'm not hearing it. start doing your own topics!!

OMG LEMME GO READ THE MAIN POST.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: SilentSilver

YOU ARE NOT THE MOST USELESS PERSON IN THE GALAXY🤗
Aak kal key bachhey though, homework shomework karna nahi kya, bas shows par essay likwalo inse 😳



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YOU ASSHOLE🤣🤣 I was finishing my homework and you were egging me to make a topic on Whatsapp!

BOLD - SO HUMBLED.

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Originally posted by: .annihilation.

DUDE. 😳 We BOTH just HAD to draw the chess analogies, didn't we? OMG ILY. 😳 🤗 You though, you woman, you're just...brilliance. I can't say no more after reading that main post. *Cries* SO AGREEED.

omg i was reading your analysis AND THINKING EXACTLY THE SAME THING!! HAHA. AND YOU ARE ABOVE THAT TOO SO START MAKING POSTS SO WE CAN READ YOUR GLORIOUS ANALYSES. Beyhadh robbed us of that.😭
Edited by FleetingWishes. - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Like I said before, I am officially impressed by Ranveer.
His ability to remain calm and collected in the face of everything.
You see everyone else running around like lost hens, desperate to either prove his innocence or his guilt. While he does nothing. He observes from far, like a circus master admiring his work.
His interactions with everyone was very interesting to watch. He spoke with Aachal with utmost confidence and his ever present composure. With his mother he was soft and reassuring. But the most interesting part was his interactions with Kabir. While it outwardly seems like he is trying to cool him down, but is he really ? Or is he trying to add gasoline to the wildfire that is Kabir Raichand. The fact that Ranveer is a smart businessman is already established. Businessmen deals with asset and liabilities. Kabir is an asset. A volatile and power an asset. An asset which if the right buttons are pushed, can voluntarily do his dirty work without even realizing it.
I absolutely agree with both of yours chess master analogy. He is definitely playing the pieces and thinking 3 steps ahead. But the thing with planning, plans fail. While Kabir's impulsive nature can be taken advantage of, it also makes him difficult to predict. He might just do something which throws away the game entirely. Then there is Aanchal who has this well defined goal ahead and the wiliness to do anything for it. Just how far is she ready to go and how far can see succeed is for us to see.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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HASHMI 🤗
HUSNA 🤗
Take a hug.
Your discussions are such a pleasure to read
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.

YOU ASSHOLE🤣🤣 I was finishing my homework and you were egging me to make a topic on Whatsapp!


Pri made this happen? Pri, khuda kare kal tujhe pizza khane ko mile, woh bhi free mein. ❤️ BLESS YOU GIRL! 🤗

Originally posted by: FleetingWishes.




Same I'm not shipping anyone and Idk why people are so eagerly jumping onto ships right off the bat. At least give it time. But I definitely see myself in the Ranveer camp whenever it happens. Not sure of it but the probability is that and also because he's the one who's fascinating me so so much! I just want to know what he thinks.😆 Word to well conceived characters. Tho I feel like Aanchal too is impulsive like Kabir. She lets passion take over rational and that could be a big flaw especially considering she's a lawyer. She doesn't have the cool suaveness of one because inherently she's more an activist.

*start doing your own topics!!



I have no clue how ships can sail right off from episode 1 either. But yeah, like you, I do too see myself in Ranvir camp for the same reasons. 😆

We have said all that we could on everything but AANCHAL! So agreed. I don't mind the impulsiveness but she showed intelligence initially and now is just jumping off from the Kabir-bad guy to Ranvir-bad guy board 🤪 merely based on evidences that aren't even foolproof in the first place. She definitely could do away with that irrationality because I have taken a liking to her style of jab seedhi ungli se ghee nahi nikalta toh ungli tedi kardo style of law practice and thus, I need her to use her head at all times. 😆

Ah, no issues. 🤗 Do it as and when you can and you'll find me around 'cause dil ka rishta. ❤️ *eh, what? Merko kuch sunayi nahi diya. Main behri hogayi yaar teri demand padh ke. 🤣
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