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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sharmishta

aww aditi🤗... wat a beautifl chappi, yaar.. so poignant.. it was a miniature versn of d lake side cnfrtatn scene na..

wat will b her reactn?? will she giv him a satisfctry answr or just snub him with her infamous dialogue "u r crssng ur limits, kesar" 😕🤔
update asap..plsshhh😳


🤔 ye le lots of hugsss 🤗


Aww Sharmishta,such beautiful emoticons,loved it. I am glad you like the chapter,Thanks for your lovely comments,I have updated next chapter,hopefully you will get answer to your question😳


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Posted: 13 years ago
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So, belatedly even if, I just got done reading chapter 1 and the debate that has ensued from the reader comments. Personally I think I stand apart from the majority here. Because Gulaal to me was never unreal - whatever else she was. I would not deny that more detailing could have been lent to her transition under the circumstance of a show extension, or more importantly Talli space reduction - but limited or not, her portrayal was justified to me in all means.

Trying to take one thing at a time - and somehow this takes me back to the Friday debate just before the Sunday ME finale which ends the show - because a major Gulaal debate had ensued between two contradicting thoughts even then.

Anyway. So like Aditi said, the difference between Gulaal and Rano lies in the essential basis of being self aware, or in denial. The interesting, and sadly self cursed, part of being in denial is that the longer and harder we try to be in that state, the more alibis we come up with for self conviction of the same. So countering Aditi's second part of the comment - about Gulaal's inability to distinguish between Dushyant's lust and kesar's love - I say that at that given point of time, she never actually allowed herself to even explicitly think out that distinction. Her focus at that point was not Dushyant. Not in comparison. Not in individuality. Her focus was Kesar, his confession, and the repercussion she faced with it. Just at that point, in being blatantly faced with the impossible weight of her once upon a time well intended but recklessly impulsive decision came crushing down on her - and if she did not or could not think straight through it, well, very few people, if any, can! Her first reaction obviously had to be repulsion in feeling violated, and a strong defense mode. In striving for which she tried to shun Kesar - a task he made exceedingly possible - cold shoulder him - to make him feel guilty because subconsciously or otherwise it was her only power to exert at that time - and of course, accuse him of lustful intention - because was there any other way she could justify her sense of violation to even herself if she was going to believe his love was pure? There's a very innate element of lust which results in a sense of violation in general - and for Gulaal, it became the easiest explanation. Kesar in his place may have been very rightly appalled by how she could expect him to be lustful of all things. But for Gulaal, it was at least transiently a very evident reactive conclusions.

Truth was, her repulsion had a very strong self basis. It lay almost if not entirely in even allowing the thought of anyone replacing Vasant in her life be spelled or thought. Ever since Kesar returns, the whole "hubby-wife" situation makes her greatly uneasy. The only solace she has is initially on how KT bond (which she thinks is in accordance with her plan) and when Kesar ceases to be anything else, but her Kesar. When he serves her, obeys her, indulges her, protects her - despite the changed face and fact of their equation, it is a sneak peak of the kavachh he once was, as a kid, not as a husband. And personally I think, Gulaal doesn't start off with a wrong argument. When she tells him it is lagaav and not pyaar - from her POV, it is the most accurate conclusion to arrive at - something that, but for our awareness and subjectivity for Kesar's predicament - we would actually agree with, or at least empathize with far more, if we considered her case in objectivity. What compels her to backlash at Kesar with all the "lust" comments is in fact, his own wrongly implemented approach - and there is no denying of that! If she felt intruded upon with his confession, his force to get her back with himself only causes her to feel more violated, and further on the defensive/offensive.

I remember saying somewhere in the last week - and I think this was in the Friday debate - how for Gulaal, the denial in accepting Kesar always did stem from the fear that she would be replacing Vasant. After the initial shock of his confession, she progressively finds one reason or the other to shun him, keep him at a distance, and mostly, stay in denial. There may be no justification for her attitude, but for, like Aditi said, an individual compulsion to remain in denial. When she finally does begin to recognize the shift in herself, in what she has with Kesar from her side, she is washed over by the double impact of the weight of such a futile denial, and the fresh guilt of betraying Vasant. At this point, she runs out of all pretend reasons to hide behind, and stay in denial. Except the real reason which has never allowed her to give Kesar and herself a fair chance. Vasant. If she has been butt headed about tying herself to Vasant - fine she has been. To me that is not unreal in a person - because when you think about it, Kesar is no less butt headed. The way he holds onto a grudge as a mere 10 year old, unto a decade later - a grudge we all know he "names as injustice to his brother" but truly holds as "being betrayed by Gulaal" - it can be just as unreal. But it isn't, because that is how Kesar is.

As for the parallel between Rano and Gulaal - I honestly think eventually acceptance should have been easier in Gulaal's case than Rano's. To me if someone is a little hard to stomach, it's Rano's self awareness. Because in her case, apart from the fear of replacing her first husband, she has every moment of all those years she has groomed and raised him from boy to man to come back to her, when her role shifts from guardian to wife. For Gulaal, it is only the memories of a 10 year old, and then straight to a decade ahead. While it causes her to hold onto an image of "child Kesar" it also doesn't imprint her indelibly with 10 years of guardianship in an active manner - and I think the chance of her acceptance being easier or harder in this case that Aditi takes on is an equal probability scenario - depending on how you can justify your take on how it could be!

Phew - I know this got long. But well - old debates being raised back to life on Gulaal can never end 😆 To Piyu's tag of Holier than Thou - I think Gulaal was more of a compulsive self-checklist person, someone who didn't know how to deal with going wrong on her own set yardstick - than a worldly defined idealist. In fact, as we have often said, given her streak of rebellion and some loud steps in contrary, she can hardly be termed Holier than Thou. What gets her feeling so violated by the very idea of replacing Vasant is not righteousness, as much as what she feels for him, the extent of it, and how she wants to hold on to it till the end of time - fearing any kind of outsider (Kesar included) could change that balance and cause her intangible hold onto Vasant slip out of her hand!

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Aditi - for the 2nd chapter, I'm personally more than glad to know the next update is already there and I'm not going to be left hanging at that point 😲 😆 I like how you've coursed through this thus far, and to the best of my ability, I'm reading this SS with the sole idea of reading your take, and your justification of it. Because like I said, I think this is a predicament that can be explored in various ways, with various justifications...

So again, I'm glad you gave this a shot, really!

Will read the next part tomorrow morning and be back again!

xx
JZee
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Posted: 13 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: alanta

Aditi.🤗..It was really a touching update...Kesar's confused mind state and I liked here it is Kesar who asked to send him to the boarding ...but still he expects Gulaal to stop him...and as Mini said his extending of hand towards her to help her get up holds so much significance...really well done Aditi👏

Thanks Alanta🤗, I am glad you like it,Sorry for the late reply, I am trying to squeez in between my work so really sorry Yes he is complete brat na, he want's that exclusive attention or upar se bhaav bhi khana hai😊


Now my only problem is I have no any idea that how does Ali look as a 14 year old boy..so I am trying to imagine a young Neil😆

Well Piyu said he would have looked almost same,thoda lamba imagine karle😉



Originally posted by: alanta

Aditi🤗 thank u for this lovely touching brilliant update..really could imagine each and every bit of it...just like watching the show😳.

Aww that's such a hugh compliment,thankswa😳

.the sudden down pour of the rain and Kesar placing his had above her, and being a chatha for her,..almost like a reflex action of his..felt like that kavach element is almost coming involuntarily from him, and I was also reminded of when Gulaal in the show covered his head with her yellow shawl after the DV to protect him from 'dhoop' and here he in a similar way trying to protect her from rain, not even caring about himself..that was always Kesar himself na...this was very significant as how with years passing Kesar how slowly becomes her kavach and her biggest support system, and the journey of both climbing each steps as days and months and years passing...really meaningful and excellent thought👏

Oh thanks for that comparision to DV scene and that covering of head from dhoop yeah something similar but I had completely forgotten about it,thanks for bringing it to my attention,shyad kaam aaye aage likhne mein😊

Oh and that khaana scene was so adorable,...took me back to the holi scene where he authoritatively orders Gulaal to bring food for him and here Gulaal herself is serving him food and I think the same way it would happen in the show too, if he was not meant to be sent to the boarding so soon..and thank u once again Aditi👏 and PB interruption, though her pain is understandable...

Alanta,I wanted to show lonliness of PB cause Kesar was so single-mindedly devoted to Gulaal,he forgot about his mother altogether nothing can be more heartbreaking for a mother if her son hardly ever needs her😒

and this is so typical Kesar the natkhat bhaav khaoing waala, when he acts all tired when Gulaal expresses her unwillingness of him leaving her..and the brilliant bachcha finally made her say what he wanted to hear from her.

Yes Kesu the brat,he won't give up on that na😆

Aditi you have brought the most Kesarian element..the straight forward...I loved the fact that he opened up his mind to Gulaal, though for her it would definitely be hurting , it was equally important to know about the humiliations that Kesar had to face ...but it only flamed his jealousy towards Dushyanth...

Yes his possessivness actually led him to behave in such a manner that will come out as jealosy but not because of hubby/wifey relationship just because she was his Gulaal and that was end of it

We always love to see the possessive and jealous brat na😳 ...and as he grows up his possessiveness for her turns to jealousy for Dushyanth..and Dushyanth who didnt forget to pass a glance at Gulaal and the sigh and the passing...Kesar had to notice it na...though it was a simple jester that even went unnoticed by others or Gulaal herself..it definitely hurt Kesar na..and why not😳...

and Talli..she was this sweet girl at all these phases...I have to wait some more to comment anything about her😆...and the next update on mango orchard??? waiting waiting😊

Thanks Alanta🤗 for your lovely comments,I will update next chapter on Saturday😊


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Posted: 13 years ago
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oh wow i just read the chapii its a masterpiece aditi wen even cv couldnt dared touch the sensitive issue of exploring the feeling of a teen for his elder wife... u r dealing the subject with such smoothness and perfection... hats off girl...really me so jealous

i always wanted to show such thing in the show ( soo me risking my life again) ... not just getting away with the kids feeling i really wanted him to be raised before her and thinking her to be his wife

and now coming to the chapii it was brilliant i loved how u have sketched all the dimensions of soon -to -be- so- devilish -bada- kesu
i mean he is jealous and possesseive wen dushyant is all around
he is a perfect vodafone puppy infront of gulaal
infront of others he is all husbandy
he is wild and brutual wen anyone dare to badmouth her
he is extremely sensitive and caring for his wifey dear i loved the chatta part my fav one so far
and he is naughty and bratty wen he so wanna make gulaal dance on his tune i really loved how carelessly he responded to gulaal's complain wen he said ok wifey now u know who is husband here so better understand else me running away to hostel such a brat naa
loved everything about kesar and his conversation with vasant was too good... he really wanna grow and reach to the height for gulaal and how supercute was that wen this chota kesu was protecting with her with his moti tiny fingers and he is so proud of his achievement ...pat ur back dude😆

and then taking her to aam ka bageecha and making excuses is so kesarish and then the conversation wasdreadful i mean i had a goosebumps wen i read those last lines how difficlut must be for this poor soul to bear such accusation about gulaal though he completly trust gulaal yet his suspicion is growing not his fault... he is such a age naa

and coming to gulaal she is a sensible woman here she is his mentor his guide he needs her and she is fullfilling her responsibility with utter sincerity unknowingly that he has become her reason for existence i want to read gulaal feelings for kesar's complex behaviour...in the show she completely shut herself from his growing fondness...she cant do same here he he he phass gayi bechari
dushyant was brilliant as ever sweet but powerful
panba oh is she the wicked one????? but me loved her rantwa ...her postion is reduced to noone in the house perfect saas in complaining

everything was so perfect in the chapii looked like watching the show itself

lovely chapii aditi and waiting eagerly for the next
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: arti07

lovely story aditi i always thought what if kesar was raised in front of her will gulaal be able to except him as her husband i know its tough and thats y i consider rano (i take this woman) more stronger than gulaal (sorry gals) where she had the courage to accept a boy that she raised since he was 2 year old baby as her husband not only she broke all the odd shackles of the society and herself but also proved to be a perfect loving and devotee wife for mangal

so here there are same circumstances for gulaal naa (if a guess it is in your mind)

kesar is not sent to hostel and he is raised infront of her so there is journey of gulalal from a his teen to man... hell complicated yet simple

Lovely to see you here Arti, I am not going to let Rano's character influence my take on Gulaal, all I am interested is in exploration of this What If, he was raised in front of her and got closer to her and she equally was dependent on him not as husband but as someone who she needed for her existence, If she too developed something that was not purely mentoring or friendship will she be able to live with guilt betraying Vasant or she will prefer to live her life indenial of her inner feelings

lovely thought and coming to the chapii what to say anything that involves chota kesar and gullu instantly win my heart i so love his tantrums and gulaal being so submissive cat he he he its so strange naa that gulaal behaved as faithful devoted and goodie goodie wife infront of chota kesar and for bada kesar she was all stranger wild and tantrumy queen bascially kesar reamined the same but it was gulaal who changed later...

but seriously this is amazing story do update soon

She was very comfortable with chota Kesu, cause he was not competing for her affection at same level as Vasant but this was not the case when Kesar grew up and that's what this story is going to explore further

Originally posted by: arti07

oh wow i just read the chapii its a masterpiece aditi wen even cv couldnt dared touch the sensitive issue of exploring the feeling of a teen for his elder wife... u r dealing the subject with such smoothness and perfection... hats off girl...really me so jealous

Thanks Arti😳, I am glad you liked it, masterpiece ka toh pata nahi, I am just going to go with my convictions and things I would have liked to see in the show

i always wanted to show such thing in the show ( soo me risking my life again) ... not just getting away with the kids feeling i really wanted him to be raised before her and thinking her to be his wife

and now coming to the chapii it was brilliant i loved how u have sketched all the dimensions of soon -to -be- so- devilish -bada- kesu

i mean he is jealous and possesseive wen dushyant is all around

he is a perfect vodafone puppy infront of gulaal

infront of others he is all husbandy

he is wild and brutual wen anyone dare to badmouth her

he is extremely sensitive and caring for his wifey dear i loved the chatta part my fav one so far

and he is naughty and bratty wen he so wanna make gulaal dance on his tune i really loved how carelessly he responded to gulaal's complain wen he said ok wifey now u know who is husband here so better understand else me running away to hostel such a brat naa

loved everything about kesar and his conversation with vasant was too good... he really wanna grow and reach to the height for gulaal and how supercute was that wen this chota kesu was protecting with her with his moti tiny fingers and he is so proud of his achievement ...pat ur back dude😆

Kesar in my opinion was a very straight forward no-nonsense guy from very young age, he had his priorities cut out and he always stuck to his beliefs and convictions, he hated telling lies to anyone even small white lies,which I tried to potray by him not replying to MB's question but nodding to What Gulaal said in his defence, there was guilt in that nod but at the same time he didn't want to deny the temporary comfort it offered ,so the paradox of his conviction and his action

and then taking her to aam ka bageecha and making excuses is so kesarish and then the conversation wasdreadful i mean i had a goosebumps wen i read those last lines how difficult must be for this poor soul to bear such accusation about gulaal though he completly trust gulaal yet his suspicion is growing not his fault... he is such a age naa

Yes this is something that's troubling him deeply in not being able to protect Gulaal from these kind of accusations, no he is not questioning or doubting her at all, there is complete trust as he promised here earlier the anger and the subsequent breakdown that will follow results from his inability to protect her bringing in that kavach role of his,which he so prides himself as and again not because of hubby/wifely relation he would have done this even if there was no DV tag attached to their relationship, her Gulaal needed that protection and he failed her that was the issue..

and coming to gulaal she is a sensible woman here she is his mentor his guide he needs her and she is fullfilling her responsibility with utter sincerity unknowingly that he has become her reason for existence i want to read gulaal feelings for kesar's complex behaviour...in the show she completely shut herself from his growing fondness...she cant do same here he he he phass gayi bechari

Gulaal in this story is going to be reflecting on her DV decision and effect of that on Kesar,not denying him his right to put forward his points,feelings and contering it with her own

dushyant was brilliant as ever sweet but powerful

panba oh is she the wicked one????? but me loved her rantwa ...her postion is reduced to noone in the house perfect saas in complaining

everything was so perfect in the chapii looked like watching the show itself

lovely chapii aditi and waiting eagerly for the next

Thanks for your lovely comments Arti, Next update will be on this weekend, hope you will be around to read it

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Aditi,
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

And final reserve here - Aditi - pukka pukka be back with a bang lamba comment taking on the new chapter next week... Sorry I didn't get to it already but between a crazy deadline and my increasing NBT distraction, I sort of didn't get around to being here on Gulaal in time - sorry?! But like you said in your reply, I'm totally sticking around not only with this SS< but with Gulaal as a show that has its own space in my heart ... ! Will definitely be around and actively to have a go at each chapter and the way you take this what if - which btw, should obviously be your take in your conviction unchanged by all of us - because that's the idea!!! 😊


Thanks Jzee, I am going to go with my convictions as I have said somewhere,it's great to have all these discussions and debates but it's difficult for me to change my views,one hell of a stubborn mind I have,my collagues will readily confirm😆 so you keep your side of bargain about being here to comment on every chapter and I will lead this to completion Aditi style😉

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Aditi - for the 2nd chapter, I'm personally more than glad to know the next update is already there and I'm not going to be left hanging at that point 😲 😆 I like how you've coursed through this thus far, and to the best of my ability, I'm reading this SS with the sole idea of reading your take, and your justification of it. Because like I said, I think this is a predicament that can be explored in various ways, with various justifications...

So again, I'm glad you gave this a shot, really!

Will read the next part tomorrow morning and be back again!

Ok I have already taken that first step of where I am going with this,It will be lovely to see what you think of it,whenever you get chance😊



xx
JZee

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: enchanted23

Kalika,Thanks for your appreciation and support🤗



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Posted: 13 years ago
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Aditi, sorry for the umpteenth time to be late around here - but let me jump straight away to saying what a beautiful chapter that was! I bet if I could read and see my expressions in a mirror at the same time, I'd have seen a constant variation of smiles and frowns - soft, but evident! The way you weave in little details is so guileless and natural - just like the original script of the show which had a knack of being subtle. A quick glance here, another quick secret wish there. A dialogue spoken, or another withheld. A momentary gesture reflexive of the passing/riding emotion. What's really pleasant is that like a skilled storyteller, you never shift the focus from the leads, or lose track of where you're headed with them, while managing fairly to include the support cast - Talli's taking of jibes in an innocent hope. Dushyant's resignation. Kesar's quiet but certain wariness of GD. MB's reproach and affection in sequence. PB's moment of confession - taken into account, not dragging but lingering anyway!

I just have nothing to say about this chapter that I could want otherwise. Gulaal's explanation to Kesar - without giving answers - was so Gulaal. Wanting to understand Kesar and make him understand her, and yet wanting to shield him from things his age maybe too raw for. Her simultaneous surprise at how fast he's grown/matured and treating him still like someone she needs to protect reminds me of Kesar post leap in the show (after his reform) in how he would let her indulge him, and then go all protective about her in the same moment!

Lovely, love writing! Please update soon - even though I should hardly be saying this - but you're doing a wonderful job with this theme, keep it up!

xx
JZee
Edited by JZephyr - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hi aditi, again a briliant chapter from you:-). I loved the way u potrayed kes-gul bond. Seriously the moment gulaal came in his life, every1 else including his mother became 2ndary to him. Thanks for pm:-)
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