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Posted: 14 years ago
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I'm not sure how to reply to that long and ah-may-zing analysis! You write so beautifully! I have to rush off in 5mins anyway so all I'll say is that it's been the perfect build-up for what should be the most amazing last month of any show...proper epic hopefully! Gulaal-Kesar's story has this whole legendary lovers feel and I just want to say that those who missed out on this love story...it's your loss!

I agree with what you and Anjali said about the differentiation between a daughter and daughter-in-law. No matter how loved you are as a bahu, you will always remain the girl who came from another family. I think MB and PB (this is the moment where I felt the old actress playing PB would have been perfect and intimidating) will be hugely disappointed in Kesar for supporting Gulaal despite what happened.

Anjali, you don't need to worry about Kesar being left alone with Talli again because the dialogue he said to Gulaal about being with her 'dukh and taqleef' come in to play now. Jaha woh jaayegi, peeche peeche Kesuda jaayega!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjalg

Ok..me back!!

Jzee, Nur: I guess the episodes coming up will tie up with the episode where Gulaal told Kes that the only thing she worries about is Kes's temper because when he loses his temper...he loses all sense!!

Kes did look angry at Gul in the precap and I feel that must be because she must have admonished him for questioning Dushy about money. At the end of the day, Dushy has changed and he has been handling the kaarkhaana without Raman and Kesar for so many years. Also, when MB does not ask Dushy for any hisaab...who is Kesar to ask Dushy such questions??? Kesar being Kesar will completely take Gulaal's fatkaar in the wrong way leading to a huge showdown where of course Kesar in the heat of the moment will reveal the fact that Vasant had been killed by none other than Dushy!

This is exactly what Gulaal was trying to make him understand a few days back (the look at yourself in the mirror scene). Kesu is hot tempered, jumps to the wrong conclusions and hurting people around him in the wake. He obviously does not understand why Gulaal has kept this secret for so long and the consequences when the secret will be revealed. To be honest, I don't blame Kesu for not understanding because Gulaal (even after she found out that he knew) did not try to explain her reasons...on the other hand, Kes knows Gulaal so well...so shouldn't he have thought twice about why his Gulaal would keep the cause of Vasant's death from the family for such a long time??

Ultimately, the two people who will suffer the most by the end of this will be Gulaal and Kesar. I don't think Kesar must have even imagined that she will be asked to leave the house because of his revelation...2 months left for the DV to break and separation already! This the second time Gulaal will be leaving the house and this time with MB and PB against her, Dushy gone...I wonder what or rather who will bring her back?

PS: I keep saying this on every thread but I really hope Gulaal is asked to leave after Talli's wedding. Don't want her hanging around Kesu when Gul is not around! Had enough of that already!!


Anjali - excellent points raised in bold. About Kesar not understanding Gulaal's reasons in protecting Dushyant - it is as much Gulaal's fault as his own. I said this before, the day of Gulaal's revelation when Kesar gave her that heavy dose of his side of the story... that unlike Gulaal, Kesar had not backed off to her tirade of blames but put himself on the burner and undergone the ordeal of 'justifying' his pure intentions. Something that hurt him- because it would hurt any human bring to be accused of purpose for doing something only out of selflessness. But he still came through and gave her the answers - the consequence paid off in favor of both GK. But Gulaal - when the ball was in her court at the point that an anguished, misled, and tormented Kesar had confessed not finding one peaceful night's sleep for ten long years in not having the answers, did not give him his rightful share of answers, a matter that was bound to come back hit her eventually. And it does now!

Interestingly, while Gulaal kept the secret for the sake of the family, Kesar kept it for the sake of Gulaal herself. So like you say, he obviously in the moment of rage and reckless temper forgot about the consequences Gulaal will have to face when the truth comes out, not just Dushyant. Which is, again like you said, what Gulaal warned him about, in terms of his anger management. He's probably going to be doubly devastated in becoming indirectly responsible for Gulaal being shown the door, 2 months too soon, just as the very dim, but certain ray of hope of an eternity was beginning to surface, however far fetched!

I want to wonder about Durgesh making a come back... or not? Is it all going to be about Kesar spilling every bean, or will the Gulaal end come out another way? Just wondering...

Oh btw - I hope the CVs have not forgotten the jhumkaas Kesar got for Gulaal, in the name of Reva 😆 I still want to see a moment of that gift finding its rightful owner ... lol, I know random!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

I'm not sure how to reply to that long and ah-may-zing analysis! You write so beautifully! I have to rush off in 5mins anyway so all I'll say is that it's been the perfect build-up for what should be the most amazing last month of any show...proper epic hopefully! Gulaal-Kesar's story has this whole legendary lovers feel and I just want to say that those who missed out on this love story...it's your loss!


I agree with what you and Anjali said about the differentiation between a daughter and daughter-in-law. No matter how loved you are as a bahu, you will always remain the girl who came from another family. I think MB and PB (this is the moment where I felt the old actress playing PB would have been perfect and intimidating) will be hugely disappointed in Kesar for supporting Gulaal despite what happened.

Anjali, you don't need to worry about Kesar being left alone with Talli again because the dialogue he said to Gulaal about being with her 'dukh and taqleef' come in to play now. Jaha woh jaayegi, peeche peeche Kesuda jaayega!


@bits in bold - WORD Reemz! For whoever missed this less than a year of genius running on TV, the loss is entirely their own! The way our TV trends currently stand, I doubt we'll see anything with half the potential anytime soon, given this is one of its kind in an entire decade of my TV watching! I mean, I read the inspiring original novel, and I can't even believe I'm saying this, but the show not only does justice to the writing - something even hot cakes like HP movies could not accomplish! - but goes way way beyond in taking the credit! The writers and CVs of this show are a team I shall eagerly look forward to see working together again!

But for now - the stage is very much set. The best part of this show is that for the coming week or so, we will probably witness the highest quota of constant high end drama - and knowing this show, there will be no OTT effect! They're so smooth, and they clean the edges so, so well!

I've just sort of tossed the news of this show's end t the bfarthest back corner of my mind, by convincing myself the show will only end as the CVs always wanted, and when. The channel has only churned its extra earnings by making a hype out of a naturally achieved conclusion to this show - by naming TRP's and what not... its brought more focus to this show at this point of climax - than they worked to bring for it at any other point of its airing! And technically, we still have no end show date in our hands - there's just a whole lot of confusion, which almost feel manipulated now! Most of all - the show has shown no signs of haste or pressure - as long as we get our deserved end worthy of this epic - I shall be content! 😳 My only regret - not having followed the show from the start... but then again, watching the first half in retrospect has made appreciate it so much better!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I still haven't got round to reading the novel. It's something I'll most probably do when Gulaal gets over. I'm going to try and not think about the end date otherwise it'll just depress me :(

Now is when the 'kavach' promise really comes in to play. How Kesar will go to all ends to protect Gulaal. Honestly, it's really hard to predict how she will react to the entire situation because on one hand she is falling for him yet he is the reason for her possible exit from the house and on the other hand, he will be the one to defend her from everyone. SO MANY MIXED EMOTIONS! Ahhh the beauty of this show!😍
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

I still haven't got round to reading the novel. It's something I'll most probably do when Gulaal gets over. I'm going to try and not think about the end date otherwise it'll just depress me :(


Now is when the 'kavach' promise really comes in to play. How Kesar will go to all ends to protect Gulaal. Honestly, it's really hard to predict how she will react to the entire situation because on one hand she is falling for him yet he is the reason for her possible exit from the house and on the other hand, he will be the one to defend her from everyone. SO MANY MIXED EMOTIONS! Ahhh the beauty of this show!😍


Reemz - I doubt she can hold him responsible for her exit! Honestly! I think he's going to be far more reproachful of his own tempered blunder - as Anjali said he obviously doesn't realize the damage he's causing Gulaal in the heat of the moment - then Gulaal will be of him. I think the burden and guilt of upsetting MB and PB so mortally is going to eat at her more than anything, and overpower any other emotions just for the bit. Kesar on the other hand will be back to his push and pull - gets Gulaal shown the door, regrets its terribly, wants to be standing up for her, but knowing Gulaal, she will probably resist Kesar's support for herself against his family given her height of guilt... So the dynamics, I think, will be between a desperate to undo the damage Kesar vs wallowing in guilt and resisting his support Gulaal... Not to mention the obvious 'lowe spark' that has been lit of recent - its share of complicating the matter, with Kesar's pursuit and Gulaal's denial!

I can't stop biting my nails till its Monday night! No kidding!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr


Well in defense of team Dulli - of which you and I are were once loyal members - there was scope to that scenario, undoubtedly! But there is no saying how much melodrama that drama could be transformed into, because the complications of there were almost too intense to be 'logically' resolved! But when we went out for Dulli - we were looking at the scope of track extent, as well as ow to get rid of Talli plus, our high thing for Dushyant himself has been polished and brought back to fore in these last days... So lets just say thankfully the CVs were not as 'creatively drama oriented' as us - because Dushyant might as well be in jail, than be intellectually suffocated all his life with a wife like Talli! For all his lust for Gulaal - I think part of the spark Dushyant felt for her a decade ago, also arose from how 'bright' she is as a person - not just pretty and enticing, or silly and girly, but substantial as an individual of her own. There is a magnetism her character exerts in terms of being physically charming and a die-for spirit! The grown up Talli is almost a disappointment, when you look at child version sometimes. But part of it is totally on account of being overtly patronized by Galool and Sudhi!😆

Oh yes Jzee me too remember both us being DULLI LOYALISTS..😆.also as I had corelated the murder mystery with the original novel from which the serial was inspired..😆.But I think Dulli had the most potential for creating an interesting track if Gulaal had more time..but if it is to be wrapped in 10 more episodes..I think it is wise to close the Dushy track...Also We all love to hate Talli..I think..despite showing her to be educated she came across as a very dumb personality and I totally agree that part of it is due to being fed with fantasies by sudha nad gulaal...Also I agree that the charismatic effect of Gulaal's personality had a deep impact on all the three brothers in different ways...I just loved the pari hu main..Vm by Anjal...that shows exactly the enigma named Gulaal and the three brothers...smitten by her charms in different ways

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr


Reemz - I doubt she can hold him responsible for her exit! Honestly! I think he's going to be far more reproachful of his own tempered blunder - as Anjali said he obviously doesn't realize the damage he's causing Gulaal in the heat of the moment - then Gulaal will be of him. I think the burden and guilt of upsetting MB and PB so mortally is going to eat at her more than anything, and overpower any other emotions just for the bit. Kesar on the other hand will be back to his push and pull - gets Gulaal shown the door, regrets its terribly, wants to be standing up for her, but knowing Gulaal, she will probably resist Kesar's support for herself against his family given her height of guilt... So the dynamics, I think, will be between a desperate to undo the damage Kesar vs wallowing in guilt and resisting his support Gulaal... Not to mention the obvious 'lowe spark' that has been lit of recent - its share of complicating the matter, with Kesar's pursuit and Gulaal's denial!

I can't stop biting my nails till its Monday night! No kidding!


She most probably will be too broken to blame him for her exit but the peace which she was trying to maintain ever since Vasant's death will consequently be ruined by Kesar's outburst. Your guess about their dynamic seems to be bang on!! I'm VERY excited!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I don't think the showdown will happen on Monday though?? There are way too many dynamics that come into play...

If Kesar blurts out Dushy's truth and he gets arrested by Monday or Tuesday...surely the Talli wedding is not going to happen 🤢 Kunnu's parents are such idiots and I am positive they will back out of the whole deal once MB's family faces this public humiliation?? This is going to be a very very interesting track because I am dying to see how the CV's weave Vasant's murder revelation at such a crucial time in the show.

I know, I know, I need to focus on the main track - Gul Kes but I keep wandering back to Talli and Kunnu because after dashing our hopes for Dulli (I would take Dulli any day rather than Dushy being sent to jail), CV's are not going to dash our hopes for Kulli as well?? Not after Dushy gets ratted out because of Talli's greedy in laws!!!! 😡
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Posted: 14 years ago
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In the whole scenario, I am wondering how Kesar would blurt out about Gulaal knowing it all along. And second, the family might be able to understand her reasoning that she wanted the family to be united, as per Vasant's wish. What would demoralise them would be that Gulaal several times had been openly appreciative of Dushyant, THE MURDERER of their son, her husband. She had organised the birthday celebration for Dushyant and nominated him for the Sarpanch post too.
Parents might be able to understand her "mahanta", her saintly act in the name of her love for Vasant and hence in the name of the family unity, she did not reveal the truth. But no one, I mean no normal person would ever understand her "mahanta" how she could ever be appreciative openly about her own husband's murderer, however reformed he might have been. Hopefully, Dushyant kidnapping Gulaal would die a secret between them. If somehow, I don't know how, that comes out in the open(although I highly doubt it), the parents would only suspect if there is anything more to their relationship like how it was rumored long back. Why I feel it might be out in the open is that, she has kept an evidence for that truth in her dairy writings. Let us see how much they manage to show. With that kidnapping information, I wonder how Kesar would react
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Talli should run away with Kunnu so she can get away from the impending drama :P

It all depends on when and how Kesar blurts the truth out. I sincerely hope it's just in front of the family and not in a function where the entire village would be present. Actually, the news would spread anyway with Dushy giving himself up :(

MB and PB should know better than to suspect Gulaal of having an affair with Dushyant but their trust will be completely shattered so who knows what they may accuse her of. The important thing is that Kesar should not doubt Gulaal again! They need to talk about what happened!!

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