Virat : The Blindfold of Fear, Guilt, & Everything in Between Updated - Page 8

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Posted: 3 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Moor278

There's a significant scene in the movie where Simba looks at his reflection and sees Mufasa. It's the subtle yet powerful realisation that he is the Lion, he is the King, and his Pride needs him.

Who makes him realise this?

Nala, Rafiki, Mufasa.


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Read your analysis again and these lines struck a different chord.

I agree with you that Sai is unidimensional character... So her growth has been easy to track and understand. She is straightforward, honest, very clear headed and with a strong moral and ethical compass.

V on the other hand is grey character... very real...


The lines above detailed for me how V has changed over the years he met Sai and how that has contributed to his growth.


V is the lion and he needs to lead his pride. And the three characters who make him realise it are Nala, Rafiki and Mufasa.


For obvious reasons, Sai is Nala.

His love interest and his muse, his motive to change for better. And just like Nala pushes Simba, Sai pushes V towards a more honest, truthful approach to tackle the problem.

Just like Nala, Sai too is a character who is unafraid to take risks. And she stands by V when needed... Holding the fort in his absence. ❤️


Rafiki is KJ... V ka moral compass. It's a bit strange that V looks up to KJ more than he does Ninad.... Also maybe because he recognises the behavioural attributes of Ninad and when compared to KJ, finds KJ better. This too has come from Sai and that anniversary party is the proof that V changed forever.

He had recognised how crudely Ninad treats Ash but never had the guts until Sai came along. That's her direct contribution to this... But this indirectly also stemmed from KJ and how he never remarried for the sake of Sai. So if he can remain alone for his whole life for his daughter, Ninad should be better behaved to Ash na...

KJ also is his guru and mentor, exactly like Rafiki. He answers the queries indirectly forcing Simba to look for answers within himself. Exactly what a guru should do... A guru can only guide, introspection has to come from you. That's why V too speaks to KJ on and off like Sai does. He has never done that with anyone, certainly not Ninad... And even though KJ cannot reply back .. unburdening himself with all that he feels, a clear head appears.


The third and obvious character is BK as Mufasa.

Not because she is related but she is the trigger for Simbas growth. Simba looks up to Mufasa... Wants to be like him. V does that too. Has immense respect for BK.

But the similarity in the movie ends here for this character.

In ghum, BK has an extended role, so obviously her idiosyncracies and her mindset is the reason for all that happens in the show and in their lives.


How have all three contributed to V's growth???

KJ as I said gave him the moral compass. There is an initial dialogue (cannot quote exactly) about what's the difference between an officer and a criminal when both pick up arms. And KJ explains that the officer picks it up for saving lives while the criminal does it for harming.

That gives V the guts to take charge... Protect his tribe with harsher means when need be.

Pushing Scar off the cliff.


BK and her policies and Sai's presence and opposition to them is the another reason for his growth.

I firmly believe that had V not met Sai, BK would have got a Pakhi version of wife for V. Who would be happy to stay at home and shower her husband with love.

Everyone would have been happy and V would have never even thought or realised the importance of what a career means to an independent woman.

All the ensuing drama of denying food, following the strict rule book of the house... Even Ninad ka behaviour to Ash ... Would have remained as it is... Status quo and no one would lift a finger.

Devi Shivani would have remained single and alone.


All this changed because he met Sai... And Sai met BK... A worthy opponent. Two ends of same stick.


Right from her admission to her actions to patchup DevKit, to her opposition to those regressive mindsets, to patching NiNi... All this has contributed to V's growth. All this has opened his eyes to how wrong his family and BKs policies are.

Simba idolised Mufasa. V does too... But because of Nala/Sai he also recognises that not everything is white or black... Mufasa should not have trusted Scar so much.. our idols fail too... So while BK may be right in her intentions, her approach is wrong and that is what V is trying to change. A step at a time...

Sai coming into his life has made him more open to ideas, has a new outlook and he now subconsciously notices the difference between the obvious and the hidden.

Those are his layers that Sai is either peeling off or patching up... But yes... Building him up to be a great individual.


In the end, it is Simba who will lead but not without Nala by his side, Rafiki standing in the shadows ready to emerge when need be and with the blessings of Mufasa....


Oh... Typing all this made me realise how much I love Lion King 😊😊😊


P.S. all this is fine but the current writers are doing a bad job of V... I hope they get their groove back soon.


Hey 🤗


I had an entirely different concept for Virat's character. The lion conversation and the lion King were nowhere in the picture. This came up in the second or third draft.


Thanks a ton for elaborating so much. I wanted to, but the post had become too long.


For me, Virat's alter-ego wins the match. The only thing that came to mind was Simba looking at his reflection. That's my favorite scene from Lion King.


Alter-ego happens only with a lion ( and by lion I mean metaphorically)


In fact there's a philosophy. Three stages of evolution of human consciousness. I'll get back in detail on this.


But Virat is stuck between stage 1 and stage 2. That's why alter-ego.


And other things - in other post 😉

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Oh great...🤗

Even I didn't relate to it when I read it the first time...


But as I said... it struck a different chord on second reading.

Absolutely love Lion King... its one of my fav movies and with a kid at home.. its multiple viewing too 😆


I related to that because I was thinking of how V has grown and to me these three people are the major catalysts of his growth.

Sai for the inclination, KJ for the morality and philosophy and BK as the push.

Had any of them being absent... V would not have changed and neither would have CN changed...


Like you mentioned in another post, Sai is the benchmark... for V to reach it... he needs to grow and that is Sai's contribution in his life...

Very Imtiaz Ali though... a manic pixie dream girl 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: Moor278

I think V derives his moral compass from a variety of people around him - foremost Nagesh Chavan, who seems to have been a man of integrity & compassion, his mother, possibly even Samrat, his own experiences from college (Sada) and during his training(KJ)...and probably BK too whom he believes kept the family united. As far as I have seen, Virat consults KJs photo only when it is related to Sai (correct me if I am wrong). So maybe Rafiki is the combination of all these people? OR perhaps could be KJ as you say..or maybe Sai whose morals trace back to KJ ultimately?smiley1


Maybe... I cant say...

NC seems like a good person but we havent seen his interactions... so while he is definitely revered... I dont think V looks up to him for guidance. Its more like idolizing.

While he loves Ash... she is again too weak a character to be guiding him properly. Though he takes her advice... but mostly when it pertains to Sai and I feel that too is because she knows about his love for Sai.

Same goes with Sunny and Samrat.


While he does talk to KJ when it is about Sai... when KJ was alive it was more about philosophical discussions and that's where I feel he gives a higher moral ground to KJ than Ninad.

See, V took Ninad's guidance when he was conflicted about marrying Sai but then the way Ninad disowned him, made V take a step back. That hurt him more than anything else. If I remember correctly, he even says to Sunny that I was hoping Baba would support me.

And this is where KJ turns to be morally upright.

I dont know... totally my interpretation.

Daydreamers, Sadhika and Sherry can come in here.


My view is that Virat is not a leader.


Agree to this to some degree.... he is not a leader on his own. Simba wasn't too. He was happy being alone with Timon and Pumba.

But he takes up the job on the prodding of Nala... here that would be Sai.

Even if he doesn't want to... as Chavan heir, V has to take it up in future... and will do it perfectly with Sai by his side.

If I have to relate, Sai says the exact same thing to him on the day of her pehli rasoi...

"aap thik se khaiye.. aapko sab ka khayal rakhna hai"

So right from day one, she understands his role and pushes him to do better... even if at that time, she was in a deal marriage.

My idea again... not sure if it convinces you


Virat is a kind of person who wants to do the right thing. The "right thing" might not trigger to him immediately like it does for Sai. He messes up because of the people around him and how he was brought up and his own nature to deal things by weighing too many factors, being vigilant about the outcomes etc. Sai's right thing comes up instantly. Because, her way of seeing things doesnt involve subjective analysis, she sees things objectively like a judge in court. This is something Virat appreciates in Sai. She does the right thing, whatever the consequences are. Remember that talk post anniversary when he fell sick and Sai brings him food, he keeps praising Sai for her truthfulness? He says there, that however uncomfortable the truth is, she says it.


Virat will to the right thing, but eventually not instantly. Whether that is a good thing or not depends on the situation. In family setting, Sai's modus operdandi doesnt work, without drawing criticism.


A subjective Sai is the one we have been seeing since few days, who budges because virat is involved. She went back to being Sai Joshi again, I am glad. Look at how Virat captures his head in exasperation :D.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Wow! Beautiful👏. Loved it so very much. Thank you.❤️

As somebody said, you have captured the theme of Virat Chavan. The theme is much more interesting than the actual character we get on screen :)

My favourites...

The inner conflict of Virat vs The outer conflict of Sai

The alter-ego vs Fear, Guilt, Anger

His modus operandi - learning little things from everyne and aiming for balance


The theme is good - wish they had put more thought into the execution. He could have been a very layered, complex, interesting character but done in by compromised writing and abusive toxicity.

Witing for the next part....(very very patiently)


Take care of your health.. 😊


Thanks Nethraa!


Ghum execution is gadbad as we all know.


But ideation perspective, Virat's character is layered.


As Sadhika rightly pointed out, Virat is a writer's delight.


I ssly hope CVs do smthn different with execution.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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If anyone here is from computer science background, there is an analogy for Sai and Virat in distributed systems.


When a server is a part of distributed system, where multiple servers are involved, the results from the servers are eventually consistent because it takes time to communicate between the servers and reach a consensus :). But if there is only one server running, it always gives the consistent results because it operates alone, no need to take other servers into consideration.


Sai is like hosting your service on a single server, Virat is like hosting the service on cloud (distributed system). 🤣


Sorry I dont know why I wrote this but I feel good that I found a good analogy in my field of work 👍🏼

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Posted: 3 years ago
#76

Aur mujhe kuch samajh nahi aaya ....🤪

🤣🤣🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Yeah distributed systems are complex like Virat. I still get confused. And they are complicated to design. Needs lot of maintenance and all. But they can only drive the real world. :D

Single servers are for theoretical purposes, like Sai.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I actually wrote for a cloud computing company and their products and services 🤣


Never imagined anyone will actually relate this concept to Sairat.


Maza aa gya padhke 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
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This is layman speak 👍🏼

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Good to know that you are a technical writer. 👍🏼

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