Jalebis and ridiculousness. - Page 11

I agree with you.but my point is, to get answers HE needs to be persistent. He needs to understand that if he puts a 20 yo in a situation where he himself is struggling, then obviously she will be even more confused. does he really expect Sai to confess love first when she knows HE had a past and HE told her about being committed to another woman. Sai keeps making it clear that she thinks he loves pp even now but simply doesnt acknowledge it. How can she think about harboring feelings and talk about her feelings for him or say marriage is not a deal when she thinks that virat pp still love each other. She has made it amply clear that her problem is PP! She got outraged about anniversary, ring, everything because she thinks pp is still between them..so the onus of clarifying that is on virat. And he needs to do that not by brushing it away saying theres no commitment now but by telling Sai everything he told pp- the full story. A patient, detailed explanation ki this was only a 2 day infatuation, mistaken for love and that he never felt love for pp ever but that pp is an airhead psychopath who just refuses to move on even though he told her he has nothing to do with her !

Because Sai feels like Virat still loves pp and will always love her even if he can't be married to her due to the weird dynamics. Sai thinks virat pp had an eternal love story that she got in the middle of. Sai thinks that virat is not getting back with pp or because he was honoring his marriage with Sai n also not hurt jeeva ... but now that Samrat is divorcing pp n virat pp are having a private conversation holding hands, she will 100% feel like they are thinking of getting back together but only figuring out logistics of how to be together because they are BIL-SIL n the log kya kahenge business. 😂

Originally posted by: Nja91

I agree with you.but my point is, to get answers HE needs to be persistent. He needs to understand that if he puts a 20 yo in a situation where he himself is struggling, then obviously she will be even more confused. does he really expect Sai to confess love first when she knows HE had a past and HE told her about being committed to another woman. Sai keeps making it clear that she thinks he loves pp even now but simply doesnt acknowledge it. How can she think about harboring feelings and talk about her feelings for him or say marriage is not a deal when she thinks that virat pp still love each other. She has made it amply clear that her problem is PP! She got outraged about anniversary, ring, everything because she thinks pp is still between them..so the onus of clarifying that is on virat. And he needs to do that not by brushing it away saying theres no commitment now but by telling Sai everything he told pp- the full story. A patient, detailed explanation ki this was only a 2 day infatuation, mistaken for love and that he never felt love for pp ever but that pp is an airhead psychopath who just refuses to move on even though he told her he has nothing to do with her !

Because Sai feels like Virat still loves pp and will always love her even if he can't be married to her due to the weird dynamics. Sai thinks virat pp had an eternal love story that she got in the middle of. Sai thinks that virat is not getting back with pp or because he was honoring his marriage with Sai n also not hurt jeeva ... but now that Samrat is divorcing pp n virat pp are having a private conversation holding hands, she will 100% feel like they are thinking of getting back together but only figuring out logistics of how to be together because they are BIL-SIL n the log kya kahenge business. 😂

yeah I wish! But he will not unfortunately. The more he falls in love, the more he expects 😅. I think he gave up now. He needs one indication from sai so he could start over again! In KD after coffee Kand he asks sai again and again why she felt bad, but in vain! May be he is sticking to the adage “free the person and if they come back to you then they are yours”.

Yeah we can say the same things for sai too that’s why they are stuck forever. 😠

Yes but even if she doesn't tell him why she feels bad seeing him-pp just the fact that she does feel bad, gets affected is indication that she feels possessive about him...so he needs to try harder. Sai has no one in her life except virat. Virat is the one with the past baggage. So sort out karne ki responsibility also should fall on him. Plus he is the older n mature one too. Sai is showing her care, her concern n she also has been very clear about why she keeps pushing him away. Her issue is only one- PP. She has not hidden that. In KD they make Sai confess but I really think it should be virat fixing things. Sai needs to be receptive but imo virats past, virats words/actions have led to this mess in Sai's life. If their deal marriage had happened in circumstances where Virat had never had a girlfriend or had an ex from long ago who never showed up in their life unlike pp then all this would never have happened. By now they would have been able to move to real marriage from deal.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Yes but even if she doesn't tell him why she feels bad seeing him-pp just the fact that she does feel bad, gets affected is indication that she feels possessive about him...so he needs to try harder. Sai has no one in her life except virat. Virat is the one with the past baggage. So sort out karne ki responsibility also should fall on him. Plus he is the older n mature one too. Sai is showing her care, her concern n she also has been very clear about why she keeps pushing him away. Her issue is only one- PP. She has not hidden that. In KD they make Sai confess but I really think it should be virat fixing things. Sai needs to be receptive but imo virats past, virats words/actions have led to this mess in Sai's life. If their deal marriage had happened in circumstances where Virat had never had a girlfriend or had an ex from long ago who never showed up in their life unlike pp then all this would never have happened. By now they would have been able to move to real marriage from deal.

We are going round in circles...

Veeru will NOT say he loves her because he is now under the impression that if he says anything...anything at all she will destroy him and trample all over his heart and walk away.

Perhaps he could have said something at the anniversary surprise IF he had mustered up the courage but he never got to that because she started shouting at him. Now the ball is in her court as far as he is concerned to realise what she feels for him and what he feels for her.

Fine..leave the anniversary to the side.. what about when he was giving her the ring.. even before he could say he loved her, what did she say to him? Who will have the courage to say anything after that? She wouldn't even have accepted his gift if he had said anything else.

Also as far as he is concerned he has cleared the issues in his own way but he does it in such a way that Sai does not understand what he means.

Just so this argument is put to rest, I want Veeru to say he loves her and that is why he is acting like this and then if Sai destroys him, I am sure there will be 3737383839 arguments to defend why she destroyed him yet again.

Anyways, what do I know?

About Virat not being patient like he was with Pakhi and explain everything..

I also feel that he wanted Sai to chose him on her own . He was too happy with her claiming haq on him and let her do what she wanted as the wife ..he allowed her to take care of him when he was shot.

Yes he was confused about her feelings for him but still wanted to confess about his love on her birthday and on anniversary day...but sadly Sai did not let him do so.

Why confession before clearing up Pakhi issue?

Virat thinks that is not an issue at all for him since he answered Sai’s question on the night after he stopped her from going to hostel during Hyderabad shoot. Sai straightly asked him if he is committed and he said not right then.

Yes. He should explain this further to clear Sai’s misconceptions about him and Pakhi..but I feel had Sai shown patience and interest to let him confess on birthday night he would have done that also.

On birthday night when Sai said she doesn’t like majak he said he is serious and he started liking her.

Confession would have followed up by clarity regarding Pakhi because Sai would definitely have crossed him..how could he love her when he is committed to Pakhi. But Sai did not allow him at all instead she said she won’t wear the ring as his love or wife which made Virat apprehensive again to expose himself.

Another chance that got spoilt by Sai was when she rudely refused to celebrate anniversary for the deal marriage.

Virat asked her to let him explain why he wanted to celebrate and Sai outrightly refused to let him do. On top of it she accused him in hotel room of being a two timer who made a ghatia plan and who is not hapoy with Samrat’s arrival.

Virat got the rude shock yet again when Sai confessed before Samrat that she nourished no feelings for him other than respect.

So Virat just wanted to withdrew himself from being the caring partner into the deal partner who maintains distance from her with walls built as high as Sai’s walls to protect himself from being effected by his love.

Then again Sai started excercising the right of a wife and served him when he is suffering from fever..Virat got irritated and he has valid reasons to do so.

I think for Virat to come clean about his equation with Pakhi,Sai should first care to listen to him.

I am not referring Ladak incident and the fight that followed where Sai clearly threw right kind of questions and Virat refused to answer any of them. I think if he had done that then,we wouldn’t have to come across the misunderstandings that happened in recent incidents.

But thats exactly where the "patience" comes in. He is SO patient with pp despite all her crap. So if Sai is brash, impatient he needs to tackle that like he tackles pp instead of being like- ok, bye! now I'm your guardian bot your husband. He needs to understand that her impatience also comes from her insecurities. She will listen if he makes her listen eventually. She is gussail n impatient. He knows that about her. Thats why I say he needs to continue to show patience. He can be hurt for a while, ignore her for a bit - ok but eventually he needs to understand what the issue is.

Very, well said. Virat shows more patience to Pakhi than God would show according to any religion or by law of “every action has equal and opposite reaction”. However, with Sai he gets mad to a point to do kands like hand holding, taking food away, throwing out in middle of night, beating her friend etc. Sai is rude, but all her rudeness combined doesn’t have the weight of Pakhi’s single action. Why do much care and patience for a woman you dot love, but fall short of it for the woman you do love?

Originally posted by: Nja91

But thats exactly where the "patience" comes in. He is SO patient with pp despite all her crap. So if Sai is brash, impatient he needs to tackle that like he tackles pp instead of being like- ok, bye! now I'm your guardian bot your husband. He needs to understand that her impatience also comes from her insecurities. She will listen if he makes her listen eventually. She is gussail n impatient. He knows that about her. Thats why I say he needs to continue to show patience. He can be hurt for a while, ignore her for a bit - ok but eventually he needs to understand what the issue is.

He has been trying to explain everything to Sai since she over heard Pakhi screaming at him by the pool after Harini's birthday. Since then, up to now he has tried in MANY different ways to explain to her. If Sai's impatience comes from her insecurity then Veeru;s coolness now comes from a place of hurt and pain. It cannot always be that Sai has free reign to behave however she wishes but Virat who has been patient with her ever since she returned when he was shot, has to keep trying to explain his POV whereas she tramples on his heart and does not give him a chance to explain what he is feeling.

I just wish rather than the onus always being on Virat to explain things to Sai, Sai would also sit quietly and LISTEN for once rather than interrupting and/or arguing and/or shouting at him.

Does this not come later, post confession?

Originally posted by: Nja91

Yes but even if she doesn't tell him why she feels bad seeing him-pp just the fact that she does feel bad, gets affected is indication that she feels possessive about him...so he needs to try harder. Sai has no one in her life except virat. Virat is the one with the past baggage. So sort out karne ki responsibility also should fall on him. Plus he is the older n mature one too. Sai is showing her care, her concern n she also has been very clear about why she keeps pushing him away. Her issue is only one- PP. She has not hidden that. In KD they make Sai confess but I really think it should be virat fixing things. Sai needs to be receptive but imo virats past, virats words/actions have led to this mess in Sai's life. If their deal marriage had happened in circumstances where Virat had never had a girlfriend or had an ex from long ago who never showed up in their life unlike pp then all this would never have happened. By now they would have been able to move to real marriage from deal.

Agree to it. I m just saying it is in line with his character now to not confess. He had the chance during anniversary fight...now he will not. Yes, if he thinks with his mind everything looks simple but he doesnt when it comes to Sai. And as I said before, his own mistakes with her could be another reason he is not confident enough to claim her.