If Virat was....

I am surprised at the level of obscenity the show is hell bent on showing is beyond comprehension for me, but from watching the pre-cap another thought crossed my mind! It reminded me of an incident of couple of days ago and I couldn't stop but compare this pre-cap with it.

A couple of days ago one of my interns came to me to with a problem. She is staying in a multifamily homes with a family. She is single and she gets a long with the family well, but off late she has been feeling that the husband has been indecent, but she is not sure of it. One of the camping trips the husband asked her to put her cloths in his bag excitedly. The wife was right next and she became wooden-face, but walked out with out saying anything. She shared a lot more and I told her it was indeed sexual harassment. Then comes our pre-cap today.

If Virat was a woman and Pakhi was a man and then Pakhi would have asked Virat to handover cloths to be packed in a shared bag, plus asked about nazremoon ideas, we would have gone bonkers. We would have called it harassment, sexual harassment and called the man "thirky", vulgar etc...

Isn't what Virat is going through called sexual harassment? If the gender was reversed it would have certainly be a called it. Of course, Virat being a male is not going to be under physical force of Pakhi, but still attempts of SH are there in my opinion.

Originally posted by: methebest

I am surprised at the level of obscenity the show is hell bent on showing is beyond comprehension for me, but from watching the pre-cap another thought crossed my mind! It reminded me of an incident of couple of days ago and I couldn't stop but compare this pre-cap with it.

A couple of days ago one of my interns came to me to with a problem. She is staying in a multifamily homes with a family. She is single and she gets a long with the family well, but off late she has been feeling that the husband has been indecent, but she is not sure of it. One of the camping trips the husband asked her to put her cloths in his bag excitedly. The wife was right next and she became wooden-face, but walked out with out saying anything. She shared a lot more and I told her it was indeed sexual harassment. Then comes our pre-cap today.

If Virat was a woman and Pakhi was a man and then Pakhi would have asked Virat to handover cloths to be packed in a shared bag, plus asked about nazremoon ideas, we would have gone bonkers. We would have called it harassment, sexual harassment and called the man "thirky", vulgar etc...

Isn't what Virat is going through called sexual harassment? If the gender was reversed it would have certainly be a called it. Of course, Virat being a male is not going to be under physical force of Pakhi, but still attempts of SH are there in my opinion.

I agree, irony of an IPS officer.🤣But problem is Chavan saab needs to put a full stop, no one else can

Originally posted by: Sairat

I agree, irony of an IPS officer.🤣But problem is Chavan saab needs to put a full stop, no one else can

I agree, but my point is we don't even register that there can be sexual harassment of a male! Chavan saheb will be fine, if he can't do it, he just needs to tell his wife to handle it clearly. She will do it well🤣

Its a very good point and if they are going to show a social message out of it then good.

He just explained the previous episode - No means no. Don't try to find Yes as an answer when a person says No.

He has rejected any conversation where Pakhi has indirectly came on to him. He has said No, but she keeps trying to find Yes and continues to pursue him.

Its time for him to sabak sikao her also in his own ACP style.

Its a very good point and the precap was disgusting🤢

Originally posted by: sukri

Its a very good point and if they are going to show a social message out of it then good.

He just explained the previous episode - No means no. Don't try to find Yes as an answer when a person says No.

He has rejected any conversation where Pakhi has indirectly came on to him. He has said No, but she keeps trying to find Yes and continues to pursue him.

Its time for him to sabak sikao her also in his own ACP style.

Papi-didi really needs to be stopped, otherwise Chavan saheb's izzat is in khatara

Ye humari ki society ki galat soch hain ki sirf women ke saath hota mens ke saath kuch galat nhi hota .

Agar ek aurat ek admi ko thappad mar de to hum kahenge zarur us aadmi ne kuch galat kiya hoga par agar ek aadmi kissi aur ko thappad mar de to hum kahenge bada hi badtameez aadmi hain. No koi bhi kahe be it a woman or a man , it's meaning is always no only .

Issi soch ke chalte males samane nhi aate kyunki unhe pata hain only they will accused or made fun off.

Virat had rejected pakhi every time , he never said we still have hope or we will have ema or pakhi ko har bar message pahucha bhi hain phir bhi she dont mend her ways .

Virat ke pass ek his best option baaki to slap pakhi hard on her face but then people will start critizing virat that he slapped a woman .

If a person is too adamant of not waking up or open ur her eyes then only a slap can make her open her eyes & see d reality .

I don't how is pakhi different from jagtap.

Originally posted by: methebest

I am surprised at the level of obscenity the show is hell bent on showing is beyond comprehension for me, but from watching the pre-cap another thought crossed my mind! It reminded me of an incident of couple of days ago and I couldn't stop but compare this pre-cap with it.

A couple of days ago one of my interns came to me to with a problem. She is staying in a multifamily homes with a family. She is single and she gets a long with the family well, but off late she has been feeling that the husband has been indecent, but she is not sure of it. One of the camping trips the husband asked her to put her cloths in his bag excitedly. The wife was right next and she became wooden-face, but walked out with out saying anything. She shared a lot more and I told her it was indeed sexual harassment. Then comes our pre-cap today.

If Virat was a woman and Pakhi was a man and then Pakhi would have asked Virat to handover cloths to be packed in a shared bag, plus asked about nazremoon ideas, we would have gone bonkers. We would have called it harassment, sexual harassment and called the man "thirky", vulgar etc...

Isn't what Virat is going through called sexual harassment? If the gender was reversed it would have certainly be a called it. Of course, Virat being a male is not going to be under physical force of Pakhi, but still attempts of SH are there in my opinion.

Feel really bad for your friend and hope she takes a straight route in tackling issues like this than virat’s diplomatic approach.

These makers are reaching new lows in each episode. The most disgusting thing was Kaku, who just few minutes before was lauding Virat for his compassionate nature, even taking credit for his upbringing (I guess Ashwini Aai was busy raising the other kids in the house because nobody else seems to care if they exist or not), suddenly took a U-turn and started complaining about him being insensitive. Seriously what’s wrong with these makers? What are they even trying to show here? That the Chavans only have a problem with Sai, but otherwise they are very forward thinking? All the dialogues by Kaku as to how Virat should care about pakhi’s feelings was utter bullshit. Even if the chavans don’t have any idea about Virat-Pakhi history, they weren’t dumb enough to not understand Karishma’s subtle suggestion of something going on between them. In fact they found it so offensive they shut her up. So seriously wonder what modern family thinks that a BIL is responsible for the SIL’s happiness in her husband’s absence; especially after Karishma’s subtle indications. Do they even have any idea how disgusting it sounded?

For some weird reason in ITV a guy getting harassed is considered to be something that represents his manhood. The more number of girls fall for the guy, the more handsome, more charming, more manly the guy is. Sarcasm apart, I think this is one of those issues nobody talks about. Whenever a guy is harassed, he doesn’t get to react as a girl would, like push the harasser away, not even complain about it. For whatever reason he either tolerates it or he isn’t believed, because of the obvious physical strength of a guy compared to a girl. I wish I could articulate more clearly what I mean, but the topic itself is discussed so rarely I’m out of examples to justify my thoughts.

As to how Virat may react to the situation or to the precap, I wouldn’t be surprised if he downplays the whole matter and decides a diplomatic approach. In fact that’s exactly what I would expect from him, because Pakhi along with being his bf also happens to be his brother’s wife. He will never do anything that might raise a question on pakhi’s character and also try to maintain the integrity of the relationship, especially for his brother. For Virat to react bluntly or harshly towards Pakhi right now it’s impossible, at least not until his brother returns. Maybe after his brother’s return if pakhi still pursues Virat, he might take a drastic measure towards her.

It is a very valid post and yes, it is definitely a case of making sexual advances but two things are missing to classify it as 'harassment' -- a) explicitly saying "no" and setting boundaries; b) ceasing actions that can be misinterpreted as consent or encouragement.

Also, IPS officer or not, the unfortunate truth is that there is no law which recognises males as victims of female perpetrators. There is a law to protect men from sexual harassment from other men, but not women. It is actually appalling that men cannot take help from law in most cases where the harasser is a woman because by nature, law sides with women in cases of sexual offences even to date. India's rape laws are based on biological science and so they do not consider that women can rape/molest men because they are not "physically designed" to rape

So, men in India (and the world in general) have to deal with such indecent advances in their own way and many women end up taking advantage of that fact. The movie Aitraaz (2005) had very beautifully raised this issue but very little has changed on the ground. There are committees in most workplaces to protect employees from sexual harassment and they are meant to be gender-neutral but men hardly ever report sexual harassment at the hands of a woman for the fear of being blamed in return.

It is easier for women to report sexual harassment where they can find the courage to do so but for men, it is a dead-end and left totally to their own skills to deal with it unless the woman ends up committing a crime in her obsession-- assault, attempt to murder or something else where the law agrees that a woman can commit that crime. But attempt to rape: no.

Just like your example, I also have one to cite: It was a real case in 2017, where a man was stalked, sexually harassed and threatened to be booked in a case of abetment to suicide by a jilted lover (also a 'relative', as in the case of this show) but he could not register a case because there is really no legal recourse in such cases -- not a simple case of "stalking" because the law only defines every act in this regard with words "when a woman" and "by a man". So, the law has actually already decided that the accused will be a man and the victim will be a woman only.

The serials obviously do not send across a gender-neutral message because our entire moral fabric refuses to believe that "holy women" can have desires of sexually exploiting a man 🤔 This is exactly why I also had an issue with Virat's bhashan to the romeo yesterday where he said "Ladki ki na mein haan mat dhoondh... Ladki ki na, na hi hoti hai, usko haan bolna hoga toh wo haan hi kahegi."

My question was why should a ladka's Na not be taken as a Na by the woman? But when there is no fear of law and the society would by and large blame a man than a woman in such a case, it is an easy escape.

Originally posted by: sukri

Its a very good point and if they are going to show a social message out of it then good.

He just explained the previous episode - No means no. Don't try to find Yes as an answer when a person says No.

He has rejected any conversation where Pakhi has indirectly came on to him. He has said No, but she keeps trying to find Yes and continues to pursue him.

Its time for him to sabak sikao her also in his own ACP style.

I wish she is taught a lesson, but CVs don't even look at it as harassment!!