Curiousity killed... - Page 5

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

hey big sis...
it really did hurt me to disagree ..since till date this is the first occasion ....totally a new experience.something i don't want to experience again...
i know you have a big heart and always ready to forgive & forget any wrong done if the person repents it...
i agree to it but not in all cases...exceptions have to be kept...should be there
i don't know about Bidaii..you know i hate drama's...but Dia ...Dia was the diva craving attention
and having lost that from her faithful most admirer she wanted some revenge..but they are surely in no ways can be called crime....
RV...he seeked revenge too...but his way to it again in par with Dev....BUT...RV seeked revenge coz Diya slapped him..Mayank ruined his efforts into settling score with Samrat & samrat coz he hated him...all in all..he felt he has some reason for his action...
What about Dev?
what harm did Geet do to him....? Why did he cheat on his wife, who he claims to be his love of life for whom he can stoop to any dirt...! Why?
if he had just taken her jewels & property and left her after marriage i could think on the lines as you are suggesting ....but after what he did to her...there is no return point...so is no forgiveness

as always we remain true to our views..no matter they don't match this time.
love u

Originally posted by: pretuna

i think we all jus wanted to work out at this point. but for dev, after wat he did...evn myra can't forgiv him at this point. nd den telling his brother...god knows what calamity is cursed upon dev. maan won't condone his sin bcuz he ruined a girl's life nd if it was sum other guy, geet wud've been forlorned by him since no guy can stand such a fact that she's preggy wit another man's child. but the thing is...if maan can forget such a huge thing, leave the past behind, just POSSIBLY the same can go for dev but only if Geet forgivs him first.
but to tel the truth, i dun plan on seeing them liv together, dev, maan, geet. that's the ick factor to me. nd hopefully, dev moves out bcuz its seriously goin to kil me to see dev around Geet. i dun evn noe how he can look at Geet.
i also hav a feeling myra will unite the potentially broken bond between dev nd maan nd geet. but who knows.

Originally posted by: sweetroxx

in my opinion i dont think a death is necessary for them to be together.. after all they both are in love with each other.. n its unconditional love.. they can still love each other as much with the baby n Dev Alive..

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

hey big sis...
it really did hurt me to disagree ..since till date this is the first occasion ....totally a new experience.something i don't want to experience again...
i know you have a big heart and always ready to forgive & forget any wrong done if the person repents it...
i agree to it but not in all cases...exceptions have to be kept...should be there
i don't know about Bidaii..you know i hate drama's...but Dia ...Dia was the diva craving attention
and having lost that from her faithful most admirer she wanted some revenge..but they are surely in no ways can be called crime....
RV...he seeked revenge too...but his way to it again in par with Dev....BUT...RV seeked revenge coz Diya slapped him..Mayank ruined his efforts into settling score with Samrat & samrat coz he hated him...all in all..he felt he has some reason for his action...
What about Dev?
what harm did Geet do to him....? Why did he cheat on his wife, who he claims to be his love of life for whom he can stoop to any dirt...! Why?
if he had just taken her jewels & property and left her after marriage i could think on the lines as you are suggesting ....but after what he did to her...there is no return point...so is no forgiveness

as always we remain true to our views..no matter they don't match this time.
love u

Originally posted by: a little faith

Nandita, don't let our disagreement taint your heart, for this is how we prune and then grow, through the safety of a friendly pair of shears.

I don't watch 'dramas' either but am forced too through the love of a beloved. The story in Bidaai, intrigued me back when it dealt with the 'fair skin issue. I was very much impressed with the 'development of Ragini's sister in law, although apparently her heart has turned again, so I guess in Indian drama a leopard remains a leopard.

As for RV well, he instigated all that violence, time and again, to the point that even his deluded self could not really call it 'revenge'. I would have loved to see his 'development, the catalyst being dia herself.

For Dia, i disagree, her actions were quite malicious, manipulating more than a drama queen. Not only at Gunjan and Nupur but Samrat too. It was only after the manipulation of her own feelings that she was pulled from the dark into the beauty of light.

As for Dev, true you rightly said, where is his motivatin for such cruelty? I say, us, the society we have built, in which the 'playboys are sought after and glorfied in nearly every film and filmstar! It is we who should take responsiblity for this 'child' of ours.

My offline friends called for death, but I see that some online friends are calling NOT for death, that would be too easy, but rather torture and torment in this life.

I am calling for penance. For if Dev had a change of heart then that in itself would be torment for him, his penance and a way forward for all of them. For that change of heart would humble his heart, expand it to include Maan as a parental role in his child's life as well as Dev himself.

However I know I am alone in this. I say this not because as you say, i have a big heart but rather because like Dev I am in a pit of darkness, I want to believe that I too can find my way back to light, to beauty and humanity,

Nandita, I do not intend to change your view, for I understand why you chose this stance. It springs from your innate and irrepressible need for justice. This quality i would not diminish in any way or form, or sense even if it means that this time we stand apart.

love your big sis
Sabah

Originally posted by: nanditasingh

yeah we stand apart in our point of view .....
though it saddens me but sure it cannot change the way i see it or nor should change the way you see it.....its personal point of view

as for me as 'Rape' is entitled to capital punishment so is Dev's crime towards Geet...but instead of calling for that as that might be too crude coz creatives too are trying to mellow his darkness down...but it does not change the picture...
if i'm to decide then in in underlined words i will want
him out of Geet-Maan-Baby's life...he has no place there...nor he deserves it .....
one who did not keep the trust & respect of a woman.....the mother of the kid...how can that child ever respect/trust/love that man....
yes...for me justice has prime most importance....so does truth & trust & respect....Dev has earned none of this....so he owes nothing from Geet-Maan-Baby....but punishment ....bas.

as a girl i personally cannot ever forgive such a criminal...as i said his crime is in par with that of a Rapist...rather worst than that...its not just her body..her soul, her heart, her present -future everything he raped...he deserves no forgiveness .....

i got to stop....my views are too strong on this subject / issue & if in my IF time phases..i'm sure about one thing that i stand for..its my this pov over this issue

Originally posted by: a little faith

Nandita,

It depends upon the person's definition of love and loyalty.

For some love and loyalty means accepting everything, even faults.

However for others, this includes myself, love and loyalty means loving with all your heart but if a fault appears, to correct kindly and tolerate until the person amends and heals.

I meant 'no loyalty, as in the common and usual obsequious found online and offline too. Some out of not knowing better, others out of fear of ostracism and some maybe out of awe and respect.

I prefer my definition, which is rare, that is why I referred to the more common one in my text. However I am my own point of reference, so maybe the other way is a better way to love. I can not say, but can only be true to myself.

Love big sis
Sabah

Originally posted by: a little faith

Nandita,

I understand you honey, truly I do, I am not asking you to change. This is just to illuminate issues for ALL so that we inspire thought.

I agree it is a capital offense. In my tradition this crime's punishment is death, and rightly so.

However I am asking, is there not a way back for such a human being, if he chooses to make penance? Should not Dev allow Geet to forgive him, thereby forgive himself and make amends beginning with his child. Allow geet and Maan to help him help himself,

Is there a point of no return? Is he condemned to remain black, devoid of any glimmer of light?

If Maaneet were to forgive him, that kind gesture would surely melt his heart bringing forth a new 'dev' a phoenix born from the ashes. His penance, his own remorse everything he sees Geet, a new humility, his changed approach to life itself and even myra.

Maybe even accepting punishment, so that if Geet asked for highest standard, that of death, or extradiction from their lives, then as the means for his new life, he would oblige.

However that is not the Geet I know, and surely this new Dev's development lies with his relationship with his child as well as Geet as well as Maan.

Nandita,

I do not hope to sway you. I know your determination in respect of justice. I admire this aspect in you.

I just hope you understand why I chose my path too.

Love big sis
Sabah