Dharmakshetra :) - Page 47

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Lack of unhappiness not equal to happiness

The Vana Parva convo is not a difference of opinion. He accuses her of talking like atheist! Punishable by death those days! Husband and wife disagreements don't usually go like that. This was Yudhi's reaction when he could not debate her logic. 😲

After the kids death, she clearly tells Yudhi, his greed for land caused all this. Her mother's heart which you seem to imply was illogical, was logical enough to forgive the murderer. She was more logical and more articulate than any of the Pandavas and proved it in the DS, so it was clearly not a distraught person speaking.

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Lets get this clear. Panchali wanted war for justice to wrong doers, and not for revenge. But the original problem started when Yudhi agreed to the dice game and he admits in Vanaparva that it was because he wanted to win HP.

Therefore, Yudhi's greed for land caused the catastrophe

Therefore, she was quite correct in blasting Yudhi

Btw, people who practice BLIND forgiveness have no place on an Empire's throne. Both were correct if and only if Yudhi was a Rishi. As they were at the time, Panchali was correct and Yudhi was not

Originally posted by: AnuMP

Of course we can judge by modern standards. In fact, even Krishna says gambling is wrong, IIRC. Even by Dwapar Yuga standards it was wrong. Even if it was not wrong at the time, only the perception of morality changes over time. Wrong is always wrong and right is always right.

More than his family and brothers, he gambled his citizens, their safety, their families, their livelihood and their land! That was a worse wrong

Its not wrong to want HP. But it is quite definitely wrong to risk all these folks who depended on him to get it.

Panchali was quite right to call him out on it

Anyway, we have debated the wrong and right of it ad nauseum. The point was not that to begin with. The point was whether Panchali was angry and unhappy about it. I think she was.

Originally posted by: bhas1066

i doubt that he didnt have any grudges! cause i suspect that the time when he insults Yudi in Karna Parva he says "Lying on Draupadi's bed thou insultest me, though for thy sake I slay the mightiest of car-warriors."
now i know why he insults Yudi cause oof gandiva etc story but i want to point out here that Krishna tells him to insult Ydi but not what words to use. If u notice the above bold words , why Arjun drags Draupadi here when she is not anywhere in the battle area ?(for those who dont know women never went to battle field as other wise shown in serials). There is no bed , nor Draupadi there- he is refering to their marriage!
He repents later for insulting Yudi, sure, but i fell the words said here were coming from his heart so yes i strongly belive Arjun did have grudge in his heart however slight it may be.
thats just my view though i know majority will disagree with!