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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Urmila11



What will Mata Kunti do 😕 and Draupadi?

Don't know abt kunti but according to some karna fans(not all) if karna was indeed accepted by pandavas as their jhest , draupadi would have lost her queen status to karna's wife and it would have been the biggest slap to her since she was very proudy and status conscious, she would have to either marry karna to regain her queen status or remain as a maid to karna's wife throughout her life.
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Posted: 10 years ago
@Brishti
At that point he may not have felt that for Panchali. But in DS, he clearly speaks against Yudhi. And after UpaKeechak's death he is clearly hurt when Panchali taunts him. I believe tables turned by then 😆

And what you said about not wanting to disobey Vasa makes him sort of mindless.

@Indianprincess

If Pandavas had accepted Karna, he would have suffered a convenient accident more likely 😆
Edited by AnuMP - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Brishti_Sarkar

@Adishakti

You make sense but Arjun seems to be a puppet here. Firstly Arjun did not hold any grudge I think, if he would he would not refuse Yudhi saying "you marry her alone." Arjun is not that stupid. My understanding of his character tells me that he did not want to bear the guilt of marrying her alone now that Kunti's words were uttered and also that would be disobeying Vyasa's words. (if we have to assume they were all following his words seeiously. Let us assume that as I dont want to argue on this but I dont agree to this) . Arjun did not want to do wrong again so he used the excuse of not marrying before elder.
And Arjun does not need Yudhi to confirm for him what a good brother he is. Arjuna knew that better than Yudhi since childhood. There are numerous instances before and after Swayamvar.
Secondly, Arjun must have felt robbed but he never held grudges against what his elders said as they were muchc more dear to him than Draupadi IMHO. Arjun stayed away from taking decisions giving his opinion as he felt he wasnt good enough. That is another reason why he is such a great student.

So thas my understanding of his character sorry to disagree.



i doubt that he didnt have any grudges! cause i suspect that the time when he insults Yudi in Karna Parva he says "Lying on Draupadi's bed thou insultest me, though for thy sake I slay the mightiest of car-warriors."
now i know why he insults Yudi cause oof gandiva etc story but i want to point out here that Krishna tells him to insult Ydi but not what words to use. If u notice the above bold words , why Arjun drags Draupadi here when she is not anywhere in the battle area ?(for those who dont know women never went to battle field as other wise shown in serials). There is no bed , nor Draupadi there- he is refering to their marriage!
He repents later for insulting Yudi, sure, but i fell the words said here were coming from his heart so yes i strongly belive Arjun did have grudge in his heart however slight it may be.
thats just my view though i know majority will disagree with!
Edited by bhas1066 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: indianprincess

Don't know abt kunti but according to some karna fans(not all) if karna was indeed accepted by pandavas as their jhest , draupadi would have lost her queen status to karna's wife and it would have been the biggest slap to her since she was very proudy and status conscious, she would have to either marry karna to regain her queen status or remain as a maid to karna's wife throughout her life.



Nooo 😭 Aaryavarta will lose such a good Empress 😭 because I'm sure she can never marry Karna. Btw Karna would have been Emperor then 😲 he did not even care for Anga kingdom, how would he manage to rule entire Aaryavarta 😕 thanks to Lord Krishna that did not occur 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
@Bhas
I completely agree. All he had to do to insult Yudhi was to bring up DS and the assault on Drau. He did not have to mention Drau in connection with bed. That was a pressure cooker venting
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Urmila11



Nooo 😭 Aaryavarta will lose such a good Empress 😭 because I'm sure she can never marry Karna. Btw Karna would have been Emperor then 😲 he did not even care for Anga kingdom, how would he manage to rule entire Aaryavarta 😕 thanks to Lord Krishna that did not occur 😆

ofcourse draupadi was a sati ,was immensely devoted to her husbands. Thinking about marrying someone else was unthinkable for her.
Many believe being the eldest brother karna was entitled to the throne and everything yudi had in reality belonged to him.😕
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Urmila11

Btw Karna would have been Emperor then 😲 he did not even care for Anga kingdom,

Having any reference which states so? No offense. I have never came across anything that described his private life. So just curious to know.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Why is it so difficult to accept that draupdi was destined to be the common wife of all pandavas.? Kunti was only a nimmit(instrument) in whatever happened, she was to become wife to 5 husbands coz of lord shiv's boon.
She was an eternal virgin(panchkanya). To say she was shared like an object between the p's is demeaning to her character. I think we should just stop judging what happened thousands of years ago with our today's kalyugi brains.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Why should we conform to popular thinking and accept it without question? Panchali certainly did not. Or else she would have accepted everything that happened in DS as right and just. In fact that she even tells Yudhi that you simply do not sit and wait for destiny, you have to think for yourselves and act.
And my kaliyugi brains are functioning just fine. I don't consider myself superior or inferior to any one, be they from Kaliyug, Dwaparyug or the primordial pool.

I think, therefore I am.

Edited by AnuMP - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
see Anu it is nowhere written in the epic that she was unhappy with her polyandrous marriage, infact it is written that she slept peacefully on that fateful day and had no malice in her heart towards p's, so here we have to assume that she was happy or atleast she accepted the decision as her fate.

what u all are saying is mere speculation i.e.what u feel on this matter, not what the epic says.
Regarding DS now comeon, that was an altogether different thing. she was dragged, humiliated, insulted beyond tolerance level ,hence the outburst.

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