Fake Death ???? Episode Discussion .:DT Note Pg100 - Page 15

Excellent points u raised..😊 I remember thinking the same things w r t the crown n rnj's behaviour towards kunwar clan..I guess we will have to wait for the episode tom ..but my hunch is that he might not have overheard their convo from the distance perhaps n so not be sure of senior kunwar's involvement ..may be he ll say his mom asked him to be crowned and is couldn't refuse ..or smthng on those lines..🤪 let's see..😃

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

Nandy...isn't it a time honored tradition of desitv soaps to make their bahus mahaan and their betas nincompoops? Not even a King can escape this diktat as we have seen..

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I really don't know enough about the writer to comment...but women seem to enjoy pride of place on TV just as men rule the roost in Bollywood..

However, in the context of a love story, such lopsided characterization and tracks take the sheen away from the romance that the audience signs up for.

Unfortunately, after a point, the love story is between the FL and her ego...the ML is collateral damage...

Unlike Superman who battles to save the world, the FL battles to save the ML and his family from every evil under the sun...the ML is of course blissfully unaware of her efforts and strategies...

Sometimes, it appears, that the ML comes of use only when the FL, between her many fights, needs a break for R&R...just the inverse of how it is in the movies...!

I was hoping this show would be different since the ML here is a King...but even the King does not stand a chance against desitv soap logic clearly...more's the pity!

Why can't we have two strong leads? Why does one have to be sidelined at the cost of another? Tracks may keep shifting from one to another but can't they keep core traits intact?

For me, the biggest shock was when RNJ gave away his crown to KC. Not even a mentally deranged RNJ would do that. I can't come to terms with how they got him to do it just so G could dance her way into a coronation party!

It is as if these silly dance routines are more important than core characterization, logic or clever story telling..!

Once Badi Rani Maa has been crowned Queen, how can Ranaji order the guards to arrest her? Has he not relinquished authority?

Originally posted by: anobserver

Just watched Friday's episode. I am yet to catch up with the previous episodes.

A few observations.

The crown for the King -- the one that Kunwar Chachaji had placed on his head the previous night -- was much larger and masculine.

Pray, don't tell me, they expected Ranaji to crown Kunwar Chachaji with that petite, feminine crown!

Or was that for Kokila as the to-be-crowned Queen in absentia? Well, she would certainly have received a crown instead of a tiara that Gayatri and Sulakshana got!

Did the villains not stop to wonder how that petite, feminine crown was available -- in all readiness (well, apart from that "jewel" that appeared to have come unstuck) -- to be placed on Badi Rani Maa's head? Even if they did not catch all his smirks and subtle shakes of his head in disbelief, surely they ought to have wondered about it.

Now, if Ranaji did overhear the conversation between Kunwar Chacha, Lakshya and Badi Ran Maa, how or why would he excuse them? Will they disclaim any knowledge of her murderous streak?

No whatever Kunvar chacha was holding the previous night was not a the real crown. That will not be readily available for him to grab and wear. So they were just enjoying the feel of being crowned. But if BRM could be crowned, then obviously they could have crowned RM only as she was the queen and also the RM now and have been ruling the state on behalf of RNJ for the last 6 years. I don't think RNJ heard the trio talking but might have just saw them celebrating and would have felt bad that his Daadi fell so low that she is celebrating her son's coronation while her grand son is mourning for his wife's death. But I think they wanted to trap the trio.

Though Wilkinson announced BRM as queen,he has not handed her a letter of authorization or appointment and I don't think RNJ has signed his resignation yet. SO whatever they have announced is just a namesake and has no real value.

@anobserver





And yes, the familiarity the Queen displayed with her co-dancers did rankle...!

Have a question...

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

@anobserver

You actually think to ask logical questions still...I have long since given up...!

He held her in his arms and did not know she was alive...have they heard of such a thing as rigor mortis...and this is a soldier...trained in basic first aid etc...not some random guy without a clue..!

Even better, on the say so of RM, they declared her dead..no medical opinion sought...👏

On the crown, I too felt it was some toy that Kunwar was playing with...since the real crown has anyway become part of a passing the parcel game, he might as well have played with it..!

At the risk of sounding parrot like, I cannot look beyond RNJ gifting the crown to Kunwar...that remains the most indigestion inducing aspect for me..!

And yes, the familiarity the Queen displayed with her co-dancers did rankle...!

The writers better decide..either it is fine to perform in public or it is not...they can't keep changing their minds on this!

Originally posted by: anobserver

@ Wooster: I haven't watched all the episodes lately. So, I have missed out on questioning all the illogical stuff. And so, when I do watch an episode, the logic comes a-knocking.

Re rigor mortis, the only way they can walk out of that one is by showing RajMata administer some herb to her to induce rigidity. But, instead of asking everyone to ask her to come back, at least he ought to have checked for her pulse first, eh? I gather that the royal family does not believe in physicians anymore! They've had at least three so far. In all this, just a couple of things that did stand out -- Her face did slightly bloated. And, when her body was laid out in state, there was not much make-up on her face!

The other explanation is the use of a mask. But, that could not have been done between the drowning and fishing out of her body and getting the body back to the palace, could it? I hope that they do explain it away.

Re offering the Crown to Kunwar Chacha -- why on earth would he? Unless he was in on their plot from the beginning. However, his grief did seem genuine. The only explanation that I could think of was that, earlier when he abdicated, he did intend to come back at some point of time and not relinquish complete authority. He still was the King and had only delegated responsibilities to Rajmata. And she too had said that she would handle the responsibilities till he returned.

This time around, he was abdicating for real. No intent to return at any point of time. So, as was protocol, until they broke it by crowning BRM, the crown inevitably passes to Kunwar Chacha.

Yet, how does his act of relinquishing the throne to Kunwar Chacha square with a man who, only a few weeks ago, had broken down in the arms of his wife and had cried about being a failure and having ignored the plight of his subjects in his grief at the loss of his first wife? How does it square with a man whose wife had told him that he was a royal exemplar? How does it square with a woman whose beloved had forced him to return to the Kingdom because she did not want to separate him from his subjects? He returned to Amerkot to honour her wishes. If, during her lifetime, he could honour her wishes, would he not have done so at her death? And, how does relinquishing the Crown become prayashcit for "hurting" her (whatever it was that they were referring to!). Fulfilling his duties as a King, no matter his personal grief, would have been true prayashcit.

In any event, the folded hands they could have done without. Knowing that the Kunwars would have leapt at the chance being handed to them on a platter, he should not have done what he did or said what he said.