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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: medha16

Hi there!

For me, the show seems alright but definitely not worth all the hype.
It seems like old wine in a new bottle, honestly.
I actually like Sid's and Rajmata's character and I really do agree with you that Gayatri's boldness/frankness is a bit out-of-sorts with the era they are trying to portray.
The sets and costumes look regal but the mannerisms definitely do not.
There was an episode analysis thread and right after the first episode, i had mentioned how unauthentic and absurd it seems Gayatri prancing around and then talking in that tone to the sipahis. Women those days, especially from middle class families, would never be allowed to interact so freely with the opposite sex.
Rajmaata's photoshoot also seems really unlikely in this regard.

I'm willing to give the actors some time. Drashti is one of my favourites from the current crop and not without reason but i do think she goes a tad bit OTT when she has to portray chirpy/bubbly scenes. I guess it will come to the director or her soon enough that as Gayatri, even those scenes would need to be toned down owing to the time, place and setting. Geet could afford to behave in a certain way but Gayatri cannot, it would be frowned upon by society.

And I also hope that the makers do their research thoroughly before showin anything. One cannot mess with history. They are very ambitious it seems, planning to incorporate the Quit India Movement and the second world War, etc etc and they do have a lot of ammunition, unlike other PHs , so I expect them to pull up their socks and show us something credible.

Otherwise, the show is nice enough for the likes of indian TV. It doesn't do much to have too much expectation, i have realized over the years.


I can't comment on the TM's post or your reply as I couldn't follow the show religiously till date .. I liked the way you put your reasoning, only I would like to comment on the colored part

1. I didn't see how Gayatri talked with the Sipahis so no comment on that but women were not that much restricted in upper classes. They could talk to opposite sex freely though definitely the free mixing wasn't like today's. The film "Lootera" was based on 40s and it depicted the 40's higher-class society quite well. You can see how the freedom and restriction regarding talking with opposite sex used to work

2. Photoshoot part was very authentic .. If you check Google you will be able to get pictures of Gayatri Devi which came from various photo shoots .. guess what her tenure starts in 1940
Edited by SayaneeH.Lecter - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: medha16

Hi there!

For me, the show seems alright but definitely not worth all the hype.
It seems like old wine in a new bottle, honestly.
I actually like Sid's and Rajmata's character and I really do agree with you that Gayatri's boldness/frankness is a bit out-of-sorts with the era they are trying to portray.
The sets and costumes look regal but the mannerisms definitely do not.
There was an episode analysis thread and right after the first episode, i had mentioned how unauthentic and absurd it seems Gayatri prancing around and then talking in that tone to the sipahis. Women those days, especially from middle class families, would never be allowed to interact so freely with the opposite sex.
Rajmaata's photoshoot also seems really unlikely in this regard.

I'm willing to give the actors some time. Drashti is one of my favourites from the current crop and not without reason but i do think she goes a tad bit OTT when she has to portray chirpy/bubbly scenes. I guess it will come to the director or her soon enough that as Gayatri, even those scenes would need to be toned down owing to the time, place and setting. Geet could afford to behave in a certain way but Gayatri cannot, it would be frowned upon by society.

And I also hope that the makers do their research thoroughly before showin anything. One cannot mess with history. They are very ambitious it seems, planning to incorporate the Quit India Movement and the second world War, etc etc and they do have a lot of ammunition, unlike other PHs , so I expect them to pull up their socks and show us something credible.

Otherwise, the show is nice enough for the likes of indian TV. It doesn't do much to have too much expectation, i have realized over the years.


I agree with the maneerism, though I don't want them to change much their words they speak. I don't really know what words they used to use in 1940s, but it's easier for me to understand what they are speaking for now. I can understand most of. In JA, it's very hard for me to understand some of the female lead's dialogues and the words she uses. That's also about history show, and she's from Rajput. So far here, I can understand most in this show of what they are speaking.

Regarding middle class, Gayatri isn't from a middle class Her father is the richest money lender in that town or wherever that place they all live or the show is set in. She's from a richest family whose father is even richer than Royal family as per shown in the show. The Royals are financially dependent on them at the moment.

Grumpydwarf posted an article here which says only about 16% of people were educated at that time. I dont find it surprising Gayatri is educated and very progressive when his father has lots of money, so he can afford everything with ease and especially when Gayatri is so loved and spoiled by his father. He will want to do everything he can for her. May be he himself is more modern in that time so wanted Gayatri to get educated or may be like GYATRI is shown, she herself was always interested and wanted, so her father provided her.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@ SayaneeH.Lecter I agree with u completely here.In looters pakhi was driving a car although she don't know much about driving. I have read and seen many movies like devdas,Parineeta and looters and Sharat Chandras many other writings r there too.Women were very much free from that time only😊
Edited by Snow_Angel - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44
yes i do agree with u
the ambiance and look does not match
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Posted: 10 years ago
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our family friend's mother who is now 90years old,i saw her driving the car when her age was approximately 60 & she was B.A pass & at that time she educated in eng.medium bcs local languages schools were mostly not available for girls
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46
I think the modern aura is due to the British. We are expecting a conservative approach because of the era , but should understand that they are dealing with the niche educated and rich crowd. Her family is richer than the regal crowd itself , and hence they can afford to spoil their sole child . If you see the fact that they have only one child makes them stand out from the rest of the society. 3 episodes is too short a time to judge. We'll have to wait and see the story unfold , hopefully making it a little more traditional and authentic.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The first episode itself was very disappointing,except for drashti there is nothing exciting in the show,the same story 2 evil bhabhis,differing opinions of the hero and heroine,and ofcourse the same home politics where the chacha is conspiring against rana,the show practically has no scope,drashti's previous shows were far better than this
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: medha16

Hi there!

For me, the show seems alright but definitely not worth all the hype.
It seems like old wine in a new bottle, honestly.
I actually like Sid's and Rajmata's character and I really do agree with you that Gayatri's boldness/frankness is a bit out-of-sorts with the era they are trying to portray.
The sets and costumes look regal but the mannerisms definitely do not.
There was an episode analysis thread and right after the first episode, i had mentioned how unauthentic and absurd it seems Gayatri prancing around and then talking in that tone to the sipahis. Women those days, especially from middle class families, would never be allowed to interact so freely with the opposite sex.
Rajmaata's photoshoot also seems really unlikely in this regard.

I'm willing to give the actors some time. Drashti is one of my favourites from the current crop and not without reason but i do think she goes a tad bit OTT when she has to portray chirpy/bubbly scenes. I guess it will come to the director or her soon enough that as Gayatri, even those scenes would need to be toned down owing to the time, place and setting. Geet could afford to behave in a certain way but Gayatri cannot, it would be frowned upon by society.

And I also hope that the makers do their research thoroughly before showin anything. One cannot mess with history. They are very ambitious it seems, planning to incorporate the Quit India Movement and the second world War, etc etc and they do have a lot of ammunition, unlike other PHs , so I expect them to pull up their socks and show us something credible.

Otherwise, the show is nice enough for the likes of indian TV. It doesn't do much to have too much expectation, i have realized over the years.


Your post nailed it. It expresses everything I feel about the show. You chose the right words. It's alright but not worth the hype centred around it. Many people are asking me not to judge as its only been 3 episodes. I understand that. But like you mentioned, the project comes across as ambitious & the time period is a huge set-up to the motivations, aspirations, situations the characters face so it matters. And the beginning was kind of a let-down for me because I just didn't feel the aura of that period. Maybe also because the show is too modern in its approach to looking at the past?

Honestly, most shows nowadays (esp the historical ones) do end up making a mockery out of history by re-inventing facts etc so I am not concerned about that in this show at all. As it is, this is not a historical show. All I want is for it to feel authentic. When I watch the show, I feel like I am watching a film set back then, which this show has failed to do for me at the moment. Other things are fine. The leads have chemistry. They can act. I appreciate the cars, the plane, the palace they used. Nonetheless, I'll give this show time. Maybe we are too quick to judge? Let's wait & watch.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: viviankidiwani

The first episode itself was very disappointing,except for drashti there is nothing exciting in the show,the same story 2 evil bhabhis,differing opinions of the hero and heroine,and ofcourse the same home politics where the chacha is conspiring against rana,the show practically has no scope,drashti's previous shows were far better than this


So far, yes. I agree with you. It is cliched. Apart from the setting of the 40s & the fact that both leads are rich, nothing is different. But let's see. Hopefully this show gets better with time. We all have the option to continue or to stop watching😃
Edited by prc_fan1 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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M seeing VD fans has done much research on 1940's than the makers and channel... But surprisingly critics also like the fact that Gayatri is educated

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