Is the truth really worth it??? - Page 2

Wow what a post...👏

Originally posted by: -Amri-

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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Why was it important to reveal the truth? Why put Shravan through so much of misery? His dad has been there for him, all things considered. He's been a good parent. His mom might've had some good reasons to call it quits in the marriage- but the truth is that she did abandon him.</font>

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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">All this while Shravan has been comfortable with the illusion that his mom left him and that his dad has always been there for him. At least, all these years he had this illusion to fall back on and lead his life with a semblance of normalcy, at least. His mom was M.I.A. all these years, and that would've only made it easier for him to accept these lies.</font>

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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">If he comes to know that his dad, the parent who stuck by him, used cruel means to separate him from his mom; that the dad who harped on trust and honesty was a liar and manipulator- it'll break him. I can't see how Shravan will survive something like that.He sees the world the way his father wants him to see it. He perceives the world and people through the prism of this essential reality- that his father is the only real connection in his life. If he doesn't have this reality- nothing else is real. I honestly don't see him getting over this betrayal at all. So one can question whether it'd have been better to let him continue living this comfortable illusion.</font>

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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">But then, I went back and looked at some very essential truths.Let's examine Shravan as an individual, for instance. In this regard, one dialogue of Sumo's is particularly relevant- "<font color="#0000ff">doosron par kya, usse khud apne aap par bharosa nahi hai"</font>. Shravan is hollow from within. He has trust issues not only regarding women, but the motivations and hidden agendas of all the people around him. Except for Pushkar, in whom he occasionally confides (that too because Pushkar pushes him always to try to express his feelings), he's not really expressive regarding his feelings and emotions.</font>

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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Most importantly, he feels that he's unworthy of love, because if his own mother can abandon him- that has gotta be the biggest sucker punch of all. He might carry on as this hotshot lawyer, but underneath, he's craving for some validation, affection, and love. And most importantly, a woman in whom he can repose his trust and who can give him the companionship and validation that he so desires. I always think that Shravan's monologue before the confession was so poignantly pitiful- "<font color="#ff0000">Mujhe bhi pyaar karne ka haq hai</font>". He said it in such a wondrous tone, full of awe- which made me so sad- that this wonderful guy doubts himself and thinks himself unworthy of forming bonds with other people.😭</font>

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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">So yeah, weighing both sides- I can see why Sumo decided to tell him the truth. The way she did it was too hasty- but it was needed. Shravan needs to wake up and face some hard facts. What adds credence to this is that I just can't get over Ramnath counting all that he did for Shravan- something to the effect of how he'd raised him and educated him- almost as if he'd done him a favour by doing all that. That's not a good, healthy parental relationship.</font>

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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Of course, in almost every relationship, there is some element of reciprocity involved- even b/w parents and children.But Ramnath has raised his son to be a toy who doesn't appreciate himself or others, feels scared of any semblance of intimacy, and runs away at the first instance of any closeness with another individual ( a 'bhagoda', as Sumo calls him), particularly a woman. If Nirmala had abandoned him and proved to be a bad parent, Ramnath doesn't come off as a good one either, by turning him into a cynic. The most important part of being a parent, according to me, is to ensure that your child grows to be an emotionally stable individual. And Ramnath has failed big time in that area.🥱</font>

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<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">So this rude, wake-up call for Shrav was very much needed. Hopefully, this will help him metamorphose into an emotionally healthy person, confident regarding his self-worth, and able to appreciate life for all its myriad experiences and emotions. <font color="#ff00ff">And most importantly, to learn how to love, and be loved in return.😊</font></font>

You expressed everything so articulately. Exactly what I wanted to put across.
Why put him through so much misery when he is leading life with a pre-established set of rules.
And that is the point, he is living. I completely get your flip side. As an individual he needs the truth to validate his very being.In the show, we might see him being all chummy with his momafter this revelation.
But to snatch his anchor so ruthlessly, will it be fair? He would be torn away from both his parents. As you said how will he ever get over something like this?? His father's betrayal won't let him live. Right now he is hollow inside but will he exist post the knowledge of his father's betrayal. And with the spoilers of Ramnath destroying PCT, I shudder to think what will come of Shravan!
Right now, however misguided he is, his inert goodness shines through at so many instances. He manages to rise above his insecurities, dares to dream, fights his inner demons. Basically he still retains the ability to hope. Annd the truth might diminish this very hope and extinguish his fight giving rise to a mechanical Shravan- living life for the sake of it.

Life my friend, is not a mathematical equation.When somebody vacates a place in your heart, it rarely hapoens that the very person can fulfil it. People move on from those phasses in life and Shravan can rise above those vulnerabilities with love in his life.

Originally posted by: -Amri-

Lovely topic. And let me tell you, I felt the same while watching the confrontation episode.😃

Why was it important to reveal the truth? Why put Shravan through so much of misery? His dad has been there for him, all things considered. He's been a good parent. His mom might've had some good reasons to call it quits in the marriage- but the truth is that she did abandon him.

All this while Shravan has been comfortable with the illusion that his mom left him and that his dad has always been there for him. At least, all these years he had this illusion to fall back on and lead his life with a semblance of normalcy, at least. His mom was M.I.A. all these years, and that would've only made it easier for him to accept these lies.

If he comes to know that his dad, the parent who stuck by him, used cruel means to separate him from his mom; that the dad who harped on trust and honesty was a liar and manipulator- it'll break him. I can't see how Shravan will survive something like that. He sees the world the way his father wants him to see it. He perceives the world and people through the prism of this essential reality- that his father is the only real connection in his life. If he doesn't have this reality- nothing else is real. I honestly don't see him getting over this betrayal at all. So one can question whether it'd have been better to let him continue living this comfortable illusion.

But then, I went back and looked at some very essential truths. Let's examine Shravan as an individual, for instance. In this regard, one dialogue of Sumo's is particularly relevant- "doosron par kya, usse khud apne aap par bharosa nahi hai". Shravan is hollow from within. He has trust issues not only regarding women, but the motivations and hidden agendas of all the people around him. Except for Pushkar, in whom he occasionally confides (that too because Pushkar pushes him always to try to express his feelings), he's not really expressive regarding his feelings and emotions.

Most importantly, he feels that he's unworthy of love, because if his own mother can abandon him- that has gotta be the biggest sucker punch of all. He might carry on as this hotshot lawyer, but underneath, he's craving for some validation, affection, and love. And most importantly, a woman in whom he can repose his trust and who can give him the companionship and validation that he so desires. I always think that Shravan's monologue before the confession was so poignantly pitiful- "Mujhe bhi pyaar karne ka haq hai". He said it in such a wondrous tone, full of awe- which made me so sad- that this wonderful guy doubts himself and thinks himself unworthy of forming bonds with other people. 😭

So yeah, weighing both sides- I can see why Sumo decided to tell him the truth. The way she did it was too hasty- but it was needed. Shravan needs to wake up and face some hard facts. What adds credence to this is that I just can't get over Ramnath counting all that he did for Shravan- something to the effect of how he'd raised him and educated him- almost as if he'd done him a favour by doing all that. That's not a good, healthy parental relationship.

Of course, in almost every relationship, there is some element of reciprocity involved- even b/w parents and children. But Ramnath has raised his son to be a toy who doesn't appreciate himself or others, feels scared of any semblance of intimacy, and runs away at the first instance of any closeness with another individual ( a 'bhagoda', as Sumo calls him), particularly a woman. If Nirmala had abandoned him and proved to be a bad parent, Ramnath doesn't come off as a good one either, by turning him into a cynic. The most important part of being a parent, according to me, is to ensure that your child grows to be an emotionally stable individual. And Ramnath has failed big time in that area. 🥱

So this rude, wake-up call for Shrav was very much needed. Hopefully, this will help him metamorphose into an emotionally healthy person, confident regarding his self-worth, and able to appreciate life for all its myriad experiences and emotions. And most importantly, to learn how to love, and be loved in return.😊

This is such a brilliant post. This show has been near perfect in showcasing realistic relationships but alas, the makers seem to have given in to TRP pressure...which is inevitable. I think Zindagi Gulzaar Hai is the only show that's dealt with sensitive interpersonal relationships/character trajectories with perfection. Attaining such levels of sublime perfection is a far cry on Indian telly I suppose.

Originally posted by: -Amri-

Originally posted by: Chaits_04

Wow what a post...👏

Raised some interesting questions pearl!

Worth giving a thought...i always thought why should Sumo try to find answers which was buried not only by Ramnath but also by Nirmala. Wasn't she too wrong in all this?? Is it only ramnath the culprit?

Shravan was not a kid,not to understand what is right and what is wrong?? can a threat from her husband keep her away from her son for so many years?? or is there something else which kept her away from him?? Wasn't she curious enough to know what is happening in her son life? Even when she came to Delhi, she never showed any interest to know about her son till he came to Sumo's house!

Can this be true? then why is she, all of a sudden wants her son to know what had happened that time? Why should she be sympathised? Bechari kyun hai woh?

She chose an easy life then [not fighting for her right] why now? For what is she fighting now? She could have fought then?

Some interesting comments from <font color="#cc0000">sanfan</font>... "two types of people exists one private not interfering into others life and another jumping in and trying to solve a problem..."

Which is absolutely ok... Without trying to solve how could one find an answer...

My only view is Nirmala should have atleast given a try rather than just vanishing from the scene which made Shravan what he is today... She always had the support from Tiwariji Sumo's naana who would try to talk and find some solution as she knew he considers him Guru...

Well said <font color="#cc0000">poppinss</font>...

Serials need to cater TRPs to survive so some compromise is acceptable still keeping the essence inact...

Thanks for replying dear.
You raised the perfect questions, and I wish the cvs would give us the answers.
My exact problem from Nirmala.
Lovely line: " Bechari kyun ban rahi hai woh."
Cvs are taking the easy way out by villifying Ram and whitewashing Nirmala.
And once the misogynist issue is raised people turn a blind eye to other issues.
For me feminism means equality. I think there is more than what meets the eye.

@Amri- loved what you had to say. Write more often 😃

When I heard about this track initially, I was thinking the same. That it is not worth it at all. Ramnath might have doubted his wife and everything, but he wasn't a bad father at all. And he was right, Shravan was quite happy without Nirmala's interference. He is well devoted to his father and obviously won't listen to any words against Ramnath. I don't understand why after all these years Nirmala had to come and ruin everything for Shravan? The moment he was going to confess was completely destroyed only because of Nirmala. But sumo, this girl really needs to understand. She thinks that he has to know the truth and bla bla bla. Yeah he does, but I feel it could've been shown in a another way.

Originally posted by: pearl.white

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Life my friend, is not a mathematical equation.When somebody vacates a place in your heart, it rarely hapoens that the very person can fulfil it. People move on from those phasses in life and Shravan can rise above those vulnerabilities with love in his life.

Totally agree