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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chaits_04



Wow Amri...
What an analysis... how true it is! every dialogue you mentioned shows why it is said and exactly said...

Yes Shravan is a hollow from within... He is so confused what he wants and what he is doing??

AGree, Agree, agree with you that the most important aspect of parenting is to ensure the child grows into an emotionally stable individual...👏


What beautiful thoughts have come in fore today with this post...


Thank you so much! Honoured by your appreciation😳 I have to say, this was one of the best posts in the forum so far- a myriad of perspectives. We have a lot of talented writers here⭐️
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanfan


Amri...super...you have put up a very balanced argument for the case of the love story of Sumo and Shravan.. and particularly the issues facing Shravan...Brilliantly articulated...👏👏


Thank you so much, Rekha! Means a lot to me:)
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: noexcuse

@Amri- loved what you had to say. Write more often 😃


Thank you, and will do!😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Veritaserum

This is such a brilliant post. This show has been near perfect in showcasing realistic relationships but alas, the makers seem to have given in to TRP pressure...which is inevitable. I think Zindagi Gulzaar Hai is the only show that's dealt with sensitive interpersonal relationships/character trajectories with perfection. Attaining such levels of sublime perfection is a far cry on Indian telly I suppose.

I think I stopped relating to Sumo as a character when she pulled off that "Bharosa" stunt on the terrace. It wasjuvenile, her definition of bharosa was rather simplistic in the sense that I would place my faith on a random stranger to protect me when I'm in any kind of danger. The bharosa which Shravan spoke of, the kind of faith and reciprocity one expects to share with a partner for life, was taken out off context and trivialized by Sumo (the CVs) to provide impetus to Shrav's confession/realization that he's never fallen out of love in all these years. It's sad because it's Sumo that I related to, the most in this show.🤔

Secondly, Ramnath has been judged pretty severely and hauled over the coals. I despise the mother Nirmala more than anyone else in this show. Ramnath, for all his vices, is/was a wonderful father to Shravan, was never the absentee parent so to speak. He never remarried post his separation from his wife. The onus completely rests on Nirmala if the love story has to move forward. Will she ever realize she plays a major role in the deep-rooted trust issues and cynicism towards women that's been instilled in Shravan's psyche all these years? It's she who should be the prime mover of events henceforth in Shraman's love story in order to absolve herself and atone for being away from Shravan as a mother when he needed her the most.

Sumo being the mediator between the mother and son is the typical Indian telly trope where the heroine has to play the lone ranger in issues totally unrelated to her scheme of things. But at least, in this show, I liked the confrontation scene for some reason. I think it's probably because it was due to the powerful dialogues involved + was devoid of any melodrama which we see in other shows + awesome acting by Namik and Nikita. Thank God for small mercies.😆




Never saw Zindagi Gulzaar hai dear. I found Fawad hot in Khoobsurat and tried watching Humsafar on Zindagu channel and damn, it bored me to death.

You wonderfully put across your thoughts on the issue. The bharosa stunt actually removed the realistic element and put forward the drama element. I understand its a drama but 'suicide stunts' are kind of emotional cheating, pushing the recepient character to put forth emotions that they aren't ready to face. But I loved the actors' performances post the stunt, the tenderness showcased by Shravan, the sincerity expressed by Suman.

And precisely what I want to say on Suman acting as the transit between son and mother. It is so not her responsiblity to mend burnt bridges. Something she is wholly unrelated and unconnected to.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I was just thinking of another thing. For Shravan, it's not just a matter of his mother abandoning him- but the fact that she left him and Ramnath for another man. That she'd had an affair, and married someone else.


I am sure this makes him feel more awful- because a tainted mother who'd allegedly committed adultery is a hard cross to bear. Another reason as to why the truth needs to be shown to him ASAP.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Amri-

I was just thinking of another thing. For Shravan, it's not just a matter of his mother abandoning him- but the fact that she left him and Ramnath for another man. That she'd had an affair, and married someone else.



I am sure this makes him feel more awful- because a tainted mother who'd allegedly committed adultery is a hard cross to bear. Another reason as to why the truth needs to be shown to him ASAP.

Here I disagree slightly not fully :-)
Ramnath has been a pathetic husband. Even if nirmala decided to move on with another man ,I wouldn't blame her one bit ...kid Sravan may be heart broken but the time the child grows up,he needs to understand people are worth it or not
Like whether it's worth to forgive peoples mistake or forget them revenge is not a option in close.r relationship I feel:-)

Here he's not moving on , hes caught in this web of trust and disbelief which is effecting his life


Where she and ramnath failed mesirably is raising the child to that level of maturity that one divorce doesn't effect his life for ever ,becuase Sravan was as much nirmala s responsibly as he is ramnath


So whether she moved on with another man or not doesn't change the fact that she failed as a parent
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Deb_05

When I heard about this track initially, I was thinking the same. That it is not worth it at all. Ramnath might have doubted his wife and everything, but he wasn't a bad father at all. And he was right, Shravan was quite happy without Nirmala's interference. He is well devoted to his father and obviously won't listen to any words against Ramnath. I don't understand why after all these years Nirmala had to come and ruin everything for Shravan? The moment he was going to confess was completely destroyed only because of Nirmala. But sumo, this girl really needs to understand. She thinks that he has to know the truth and bla bla bla. Yeah he does, but I feel it could've been shown in a another way.

But I guess what sumo did, was what Shravan had done when he gave money to Khosla for the house. That was his impulsive reaction to save the house. When he realized he had hurt Suman, he took that back and made his way through the path logically. I think sumo has done the same. She just abruptly brought Nirmala in front, without realizing what the consequences might be (which I don't know why she didn't realize...smh). Anyway, now she will take the logical path and Shravan himself will understand what the REAL truth is. And when he comes to know of the truth in a logical manner, he will surely be scarred, but I don't think he will breakdown because through all this he will grow more. So breaking down won't be an option, I think he will handle the situation in a mature manner realizing what wrong he has done to his mother and sumo.




Word. 👏
Ramnath was never a bad parent..
I know that in the show, when he will learn of the truth, he will be busy in making amends to his mother and Sumo and start avoiding his father like a plague. But if we think realistically, can a person like Shravan survive this awith such high emotions flowing around?
I wish questions about Nirmala's absence are not buried post the revelation and she be given a clean chit.

Edited by pearl.white - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ttt1

Here I disagree slightly not fully :-)
Ramnath has been a pathetic husband. Even if nirmala decided to move on with another man ,I wouldn't blame her one bit ...kid Sravan may be heart broken but the time the child grows up,he needs to understand people are worth it or not
Like whether it's worth to forgive peoples mistake or forget them revenge is not a option in close.r relationship I feel:-)

Here he's not moving on , hes caught in this web of trust and disbelief which is effecting his life


Where she and ramnath failed mesirably is raising the child to that level of maturity that one divorce doesn't effect his life for ever ,becuase Sravan was as much nirmala s responsibly as he is ramnath


So whether she moved on with another man or not doesn't change the fact that she failed as a parent


I completely get what you're saying. I was actually hoping that they'd show something revolutionary for once and show Nirmala having married Ahuja. But I guess they weren't ready to tread a dangerous path😆 It's the same reason why they have shown her not to have gotten a divorce, either. I am convinced that this leaves the door open for Ram and Nirmala to unite in the future


Nirmala is perhaps more to blame of the two- I've always maintained that she is the bigger failure as a parent among the two. Abandoning your child without an explanation is not done. But I am considering this from Shrav's perspective. To know that your mom had an affair- it must be heart-wrenching. It's one thing for your parent to remarry after getting a divorce, and another for them to have an affair while they were still married. That is a big betrayal!🥱
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Amri-



This.👏I really think this encapsulated it all. For eg, Shravan need not forget Ramnath's love to be able to see Nirmala's PoV. All these years, he feels bitter about his mom, but I do think his love for her continues untarnished. Which is why I feel that- His love for his dad will also remain unaffected after the revelation. Of course, whether he'll be able to trust him is another thing altogether...


This revelation will provide Shrav an opportunity to start all relations with a clean slate, methinks. He will be for the first time the negotiator of his dynamic with his mother and father in his own way. He is no longer the minor child who was the object of their fight and custody/ego war. He is a grown man now. Which is why he needs to become the master of his own destiny...😳





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Amazing dear. I love the sound of it... the master of his own destiny. Yes the man in Shravan will have to raise above the young Shravan's vulnerabilities and insecurities, fight the grief of betrayal andrise like a phoenix from his own ashes.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: pearl.white


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Amazing dear. I love the sound of it... the master of his own destiny. Yes the man in Shravan will have to raise above the young Shravan's vulnerabilities and insecurities, fight the grief of betrayal andrise like a phoenix from his own ashes.


Lovely- that sums it all up, actually👏

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