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Posted: 13 years ago
HC took a stand and I'm glad he did. This has already disturbed him for a while, if we take the bit about 'informal arguments' into account; obviously he has taken his concerns up with the creatives on occasion, and has decided to quit as a final option. I respect that decision highly, and hope he continues to shine in his future roles as he has already done!
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Posted: 13 years ago
First of all Harshad never gave leap as the reason for him being upset, nor he said he is upset because Viraj is turning positive (which I don't even think is happening because from whatever i have seen I don't think there is a redemption). He was asked a question regarding leap and he replied to that only. His main reason is social cause is lost and it is a fact that it is lost due to leap more than anything else because its for leap they rushed sia's confession, skipped a divorce track and everything else. If they had focused on her emotions after V was sent to jail and her journey the message would still be in-tact and not lost. His main reasoning is changing of script on personal whims and fancies.

The reasons he has given are the ones we have been pointing out over and over again for ages now, they are neither shocking nor out of the blue. Because we have been screaming the same.

Harshad has never been a person to talk about thing this openly, he has been overly diplomatic always and if he has made this public statement and goes to this extent there has to be a Big reason for it, else this is just not him!

Also everyone seems to be saying why now, why not before? How do we know he has had a problem with all of it only now? Just because he chose to go public now and not before does not mean he did not have a problem before. Like i said for HC to reach this point where he goes public that too with such a statement, something really big has to be the reason, else he just won't! To protest is one thing to reach at wits end is another and you won't react like this until and unless you have reached wits end! He has in a way put his career at stake by saying all that he has said, which actor would do that for petty issues, NONE! Because lets face it if he could bear it for so many months, the injustice done to his character, he could do for some more too because we all can see this show does not have much of the story and would end anyways.

As for argument Viraj stole the show and HC realized it now and blah blah ... that is the opinion of Viraj fans who have always had a bias for Raghav and Harshad so that opinion is not neutral anyways because its coming from viraj fans!

While Raghav and Sia had been sidelined often in their own tracks by the serial, calling Raghav a waste is nothing but an exaggeration. In a lot of ways, Raghav was necessary in the narrative because he brought a sense of balance, he was an example of many men out there who actually respect women and try often to think things from their point of view rather than dismissing it as unimportant.

Also, until now, I'd say the two-minute role was more of something that happened frequently to Raghav and Sia's characters, rather than to Viraaj -- Sia's confession scene was 2 minutes compared to Viraaj's driving scene that took a lot more time for instance, Raghav's entire transition happened in less time than was taken by Viraj's haircut alone. But HC and Sriti made sure their performance conveyed the shock and the horror that both would have at that point. Same for the divorce scene. While Viraaj got excessive focus and brilliant cinematography to back his scenes up, HC and SJ gave their roles an edge with their performance. The proof of this is we never saw V fans complaining regarding the screen space he got!

When HC first entered DDSB, he had a lot to say about his character, he was very enthusiastic, he won't be unless the character promised him something big. The character of Raghav was someone who identified with Jhanvi's pain and who feels for the lack of respect that many women faced: his second scene itself showcased him advising a girl to fight back setting up his role within Sia's future. Did the latter part of that portrayal live up to that promise? In parts, yes. When Sia came to the forefront after exposing Viraaj and spoke, Raghav stood behind her as silent support. But when there is so much space dumped on one character with little left for the others, I'm not sure ANY promise made to an actor would be fulfilled, unless it was a two-bit cameo, Raghav's role was meant to be anything but that. Harshad always chooses his roles carefully and he always chooses roles that are strong, Raghav was no different but the CVs did not live up to the promise and his last IF interview hinted at that too, where he said he did not record his conversations with them before he entered the show, so he has no proof.

All I know is if HC has gone to this extent he won't do it unless something crossed all limits and he had no choice left. Anything else is not just HC, no matter what KB or viraj fans thinks! He has not himself confirmed he has quit, just like he weighed what can and can't happen if he quits he must have to weigh his options before taking a stand as well, another important point as to why now and not before! You have to be absolutely sure that there is no other option left and this is the only way you have left, to come out with something like this!


Edited by Soaps1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
wonderful saying Nadis
as i really want him to quit this show
bcoz i dont want to download this show any more

i hate this current track
my harshu is spoiled by the story writers
i hate this new story line

i want my hero back as Raghav - The Mechanic

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Posted: 13 years ago
^ The 'why now' argument is a little problematic to me for a few reasons: both highlighted in HC's interview - one being that he spoke of the arguments he did have with the team, and the other being the statement about changes in script happening as per whim. Until the leap announcement, there WAS hope that things would turn out for the better...but given how eventually the other two leads were expected to babysit the very man who was this close to killing the Singhs - a traumatic experience they haven't been able to get over even after a year - and stabbed Sia just a few episodes ago...what hope is left? There is such a thing as sticking it out until things get out of your hand despite your own efforts, and that's what I feel HC did.
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Posted: 13 years ago
Furthermore, to blame HC for the downfall of the show is ridiculous.
On one hand, people claim that the TRPs dip because of him, and on the other hand they claim that the show won't survive if he quits and he is to be held responsible for it.
Please. It's the creatives who destroyed the show, altering it, making stupid mistakes that compromised the essence of the show, the social message, and even the characters. It's the creatives who should be held reponsible for the show's destruction because, as far as I'm concerned, they cheated the viewers and the actors.
But the creatives hide rather than stepping forth and admitting that the show went astray due to their ridiculous screenplay and poor execution, due to their mistakes.
I won't be surprised if the channel strategy is to blame HC for the show going down once he leaves -- forget the fact that it has been going down for a long time. The channel, and the creatives, will use HC as the scapegoat because he decided to take a stand.
Pathetic. Channel aside, one should assume that the creatives would at least back up the actor who gave life to Raghav and made him what he is today -- but it seems that they're either too chicken to step forth and admit their mistakes, or they support the channel who writes their paychecks every month.
Point is, people want to blame someone for the content of the show -- blame the channel and, even better; blame the writers. We've experienced more than once that they've gone ahead and compromised the show's message and characters.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Elysia

Yeah, maybe because their silence is taken advantage of and at some point, being humans, they have enough. I have to commend HC for taking the hits for so long. I'm glad that he finally spoke up.


yup..he remains silent because he is mature enough to handle immaturity of others...but there comes a day when one finally speaks up...n look at his reason...something everyone fan would b proud of!
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Posted: 13 years ago
Yea specially when some people claim Viraj is who sells the show and show revolves around him how can Raghav Sia or anyone else be blamed for dipping TRPs? When story revolves around Viraj and everything of Raghav and Sia is rushed just to bring him back in focus, how can anyone else be responsible for TRPs? But frankly I don't blame Viraj for dipping TRPs nor any other character, only CVs are responsible who could not write a strong script and wanted to compromise every character to accommodate one and in process ended up messing that one character too. It is their inability to write a balanced and powerful script for all main leads and characters that messed the show up!

And in epis post leap was the focus ever really on characters of Raghav Sia or growth? NOPES they just put in a lot of romance, without any character growth or link to how they were pre leap! When people can't relate to characters or their story because all the important detailing was skipped, how can anyone expect that romance alone would bring TRPs, when people can't relate to characters and storyline?
Edited by Soaps1 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Harshad is admirable because he does not sell his concience, he stands by his morals and he says all that victims are feeling and thinking. I feel cvs are to be blamed. They should be ashamed. They have ruined moral of the show.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Elysia

Furthermore, to blame HC for the downfall of the show is ridiculous.
On one hand, people claim that the TRPs dip because of him, and on the other hand they claim that the show won't survive if he quits and he is to be held responsible for it.
Please. It's the creatives who destroyed the show, altering it, making stupid mistakes that compromised the essence of the show, the social message, and even the characters. It's the creatives who should be held reponsible for the show's destruction because, as far as I'm concerned, they cheated the viewers and the actors.
But the creatives hide rather than stepping forth and admitting that the show went astray due to their ridiculous screenplay and poor execution, due to their mistakes.
I won't be surprised if the channel strategy is to blame HC for the show going down once he leaves -- forget the fact that it has been going down for a long time. The channel, and the creatives, will use HC as the scapegoat because he decided to take a stand.
Pathetic. Channel aside, one should assume that the creatives would at least back up the actor who gave life to Raghav and made him what he is today -- but it seems that they're either too chicken to step forth and admit their mistakes, or they support the channel who writes their paychecks every month.
Point is, people want to blame someone for the content of the show -- blame the channel and, even better; blame the writers. We've experienced more than once that they've gone ahead and compromised the show's message and characters.


I totally agree!!

I also admire harshad for standing by his opinion... and Moral... Harshad did the right thing... He got my support!
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Posted: 13 years ago
How can people say he might have problem with redemption track when they themselves said that he was aware of character mental issue too.

All the character has been messed up very badly in TRP race. Specially to bring leap in hurry they have completely ruined all the characters. Cvs has rushed everything and there is no link between the existing story and past story. There is only link Viraj knows rana. Everything else has been skipped.


How viewers even can digest that to find his brother and sister in law's murderer, Raghav and Sia will take care of Viraj who is abusive ex husband of Sia. There has to be at least some logic.

I wish cvs have should have paid more attention to story line then anything else because no matter what how powerful actors are in the show only good story and proper execution works in favor of show

I think he made a right decision to quit this show. He has given even two months of notice for cvs to think about the story line after he leaves and that even also shows that he does not like to leave like that but when you are not happy with something then it is better to leave
Edited by april10 - 13 years ago

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