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First off, Jhanvi is a liar like it or not. A lie is a lie no matter what the reason is.In that sense, I believe that we're all liars. That's human enough.But I suppose you're talking about the bigger lies that she told? Because in that sense, I'd say that when you're dealing with a victim who hasn't dealt with her PTSD yet, who's been through what Jahnvi has, lying becomes a way of self-preservation.When she refused to tell the Singhs the truth -- even though that she was fighting with her conscience on the matter as she did want to expose V -- it was for self-preservation. That she couldn't deal with it, at that point. That she was too weak. That she was too unstable, emotionally, psychologically. That she was still afraid. She found excuses to console her own heart -- like, they're all so happy and she didn't want to destroy their happiness, and maybe V really had changed.This is not something out of character for a victim. In fact, it's quite in character. What was most important to her -- because she was unable to deal with her situation, because she'd been unprepared for V's return emotionally/psychologically -- was to protect herself.I'm not saying that she was right to ignore the danger that she put everyone else in, but I won't say that she was wrong to protect/self-preserve herself either. Considering her very traumatic state of mind at the time, she wasn't in any condition to make the right choices, or deal for that matter. We're talking about a victim who's had less than a month to digest the fact that she'd escaped her abusive husband -- and she hadn't even reached the real stage of a possible healing process. No, she was still afraid of running into V around every single corner, of waking up to find him in her room.There are a lot of things that I wouldn't do what Jhanvi did like, changing your name or whatever unrealistic thing she did, because you are who you are. Changing your name will not make you a "different" person.I understand your point. But sometimes it's easier to start afresh with a new identity. The kind of scars Jahnvi has on her mind and soul, they're not easy to forget. Perhaps Jahnvi is someone weak to Sia. Perhaps Jahnvi reminds her of V and every time that he called her "jaan". There can be many reasons as to why she'd change her name.But one of the reasons that I suppose they showed her changing her name was to protect her identity in case V tried to find her. Which was clever. V did show up at the ashram several times, looking for "Jahnvi", and he was misled only because Jahnvi had changed her name to "Sia". There was protection in that, so I think that it had very little to do with her personality-alteration at that point.Yes, now it's a matter of person as well. She isn't the same woman as she was before. In fact, she has changed a lot. But note that it's a matter of defying V as much as it's a matter of having an identity of her own that was never in possession of V.About Priya's case, she is to blame, because her dad already warned her about Viraj, but no ! She still decided to meet him.But she isn't to blame for the abuse that V put her through or that she was sent to an asylum by him. V could've chosen to walk away from her, or ask her to leave him alone. There are alternative ways to handle "betrayal" other than abusing someone or sending them to asylums.There's nothing wrong in wanting help & seeking support. I don't care if Raghav-Sia decide to get married or Raghav helping Sia all the time, but please ! Just do it in a realistic way, so victims can actually know what to do ! Not this fake marriage crap. That's what's making me & others mad. Nothing is done realistically, or let's just say the RIGHT/TRUTHFUL way !This is a debate I've had with a few others before as well. In the end, it's a fictional show and twists have to be introduced in order to keep it running. I think that this fake marriage track has been executed well so far -- compared to how forced marriage tracks and fake marriage tracks on other shows are executed, mostly without much reason, except that the female lead must be punished by the male lead because she humiliated him.Here, it's a plan made by Komolika to put V out of control by stealing away his most prized possession -- the one thing that's almost as much obsessed about as he is with himself. Psychologically, it actually makes a lot of sense.Had they gotten married for real, then that would've been unrealistic, because Sia is in no way ready to commit herself to another man. She has way too many demons to fight as of yet.
First off, Jhanvi is a liar like it or not. A lie is a lie no matter what the reason is.Now, about the comments that have been made, I would run away too if I was in Jhanvi's position, I wouldn't wanna fight a man, because let's face it, women are weak in that position. He'll hit you so hard that you wouldn't be able to move, so there's no point in "fighting" him.There are a lot of things that I wouldn't do what Jhanvi did like, changing your name or whatever unrealistic thing she did, because you are who you are. Changing your name will not make you a "different" person. Jhanvi doesn't need to treat Viraj, because she already tried, but he deceived her & he's really not sick. I used to think he was, but I was wrong. I think the show makers just wanted to sell their story using DV & OCPD.About Priya's case, she is to blame, because her dad already warned her about Viraj, but no ! She still decided to meet him.There's nothing wrong in wanting help & seeking support. I don't care if Raghav-Sia decide to get married or Raghav helping Sia all the time, but please ! Just do it in a realistic way, so victims can actually know what to do ! Not this fake marriage crap. That's what's making me & others mad. Nothing is done realistically, or let's just say the RIGHT/TRUTHFUL way !Yes, a girl like Sia deserves happiness & love, but not like this. It's usually takes time for a victim to heal, but no ! Everything is rushed & a bit too early !You shouldn't hit anyone no matter what the reason is, but people just do so, because they think they are superior & powerful. It's just how they are raised & that's what they grew up learning. Your environment, everything that surrounds you, people, kids, even animals, they all effect your life ! But once your grown, you are responsible for what you do & what you say.I really hate it how in India people say that a women should stay with her husband, obey him & worship him, like wth ?! If a man doesn't respect his wife, then she doesn't deserve to live with him. She can divorce him & leave. Period ! Who gives a crap what society says ?! I hate it how people (mostly in India) just brag without knowing crap. Like seriously, mind your own business !I would do whatever it takes to protect myself, but not put others lives in danger. Jhanvi isn't in Manali anymore. Viraj doesn't own Gurgaon. She can SPEAK UP ! She can ask for help from anyone ! A doctor, lawyer, a cop, anyone ! She can run away to a different country with Raghav's help instead of playing this cat & mouse game. Just because you run away from something, it doesn't mean you're a coward. I'd rather run away then try to play silly games with an abuser. A victim would never want to see her abuser's face ! This Raghav-Sia-Viraj "fight" & punishing Viraj is seriously boring me to death. What goes around comes around. If you can't defeat him, someone else will stand up & show him his place.Anyway, sorry for jotting everything down like this. I'm a bit in a hurry, but I hope I've made sense ! : )
Very interesting post Aya.
You are right Sia did lie…everyone does….but that does not make the person to bad person. I think many victims lies….especially to them self.
I think she change her name because she hated who she had become…sometime to start over, you start with change in your look.
Jhanvi changing her name and her identity– there are two reasons for that. Viraj not be able to find her and because of self-hate and to be able to start over. You are right changing your name does not change you, unless you also try to change from inside out…but Jhanvi did what many do, think that changing name and look will help taking the pain and self-hate away.
About Priya, she was young and the track was about how very young girls fell for dominate and older men, without knowing what they are getting them self in to.
About the fake marriage: It is a drama…so unrealistic think will happen. There has to be suspense and twist in a story.
Also…I think there reason was convincing enough.
It was not Raghav or Sia's idea, it was a doctor who got this interesting and challenging patient…she is resurging. The question is, how much does she care for Raghav or Sia…maybe it is more about Viraj being a challenge for her.
About running away…The fact is that violent men or obsessives men do not leave you, unless you are dead. So running away again, would not be a solution for Sia.
Viraj will find her and keep finding her, because it is about his pride and he loves the hunt.
Originally posted by: BizzyLizzy
To Prime and Criticaleyes...I appreciate your replies, they give another PoV to this thread as do Butterfly's and Aya's. What I write will be aimed at the responses of the former...
Firstly, what really is realistic? Do any of us here, whether we have experienced any of what Jhanvi has gone through or not, have the right to decide what can happen in real life and what doesn't? Real life is no quick and simple list of things that will simply occur from day to day -- it's way more complex than that. Real life is a different ball game for different people.Some say Jhanvi going back to Viraaj is unrealistic...but Stockholm Syndrome exists. Some say Jhanvi changing her name is unrealistic, Mr. Awasti being a lech is unrealistic (though I myself have heard of cases where kids have been sexually abused by their parents, rescued by social workers/authorities and placed in foster homes, only to find themselves raped there as well...will you call that unrealistic too?), Jhanvi staying in the ashram or taking up a job in the Singh house is unrealistic, Raghav being friends with Jhanvi and falling for her is unrealistic (though of course, may I add that branding this an extramarital affair isn't?). What I don't understand is how it's possible to assume that it can never happen. Storywise, you might not exactly like the idea or it may have been done in a serial or two prior, but that doesn't make it 'unrealistic', and I believe we don't exactly have the right to say that, when the same 'unrealism' allegation has never been passed on Viraaj. Acknowledged silently, maybe, but never ever used against him.Viraaj spending money like water on getting people in trouble, despite his own admission in a Double V scene that he'd lost his company -- unrealistic, but hardly ever brought up.People simply paving the way for him, even in Gurgaon, and joining him at the drop of a hat -- unrealistic, also hardly brought up. You can fool all of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time! 😆Viraaj being able to do - and enjoy - some of the more 'dirty' things he does (his whole obsession with cockroaches), despite the OCPD which would in real life make him want to wash his finger a hundred times possibly -- also unrealistic, but never brought up.Viraaj getting away with his misdeeds EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. SINCE. CHILDHOOD -- not very realistic either...maybe realism is expected only out of Jhanvi, then? 😊Granted, even if by your standards, Jhanvi's portrayal and the portrayal of her fight is unreal -- does it still make the names she's been called, and blame that's been dumped on her even before she met Raghav at all...right? Because we can't deny that she's been judged for her actions ever since she stopped trusting Viraaj and ran out of the house...ie. immediately after she left him. For instance, should a mere friendship she has with someone who happens to be a man, be called an extramarital affair even prior to either of them offering the possibility of a relationship or accepting it? Is that fair?
Originally posted by: butterfly15..
I don't blame Jhanvi for the things Viraj has done as she can't control the things he does.
Even when she stayed with him after all the abuse, I still didn't think she was wrong, as many people in real life stay with the one that abuses them, so it was a realistic approach by the writers.
Jhanvi could use underhand tactics or whatever to show Viraj's true colours to everyone. That's not what bothers me.
But what I don't like about her is that sometimes she doesn't think about the consequences of her actions in relation to other people.
It's fine if she's looking out for herself, and trying to save her life and whatever else, I say good for her. It's about time she tried to stand up to Viraj and move on with her life. It's also fine if she needs and wants help from others.
But what I can't excuse is that she, knowingly, puts others at risk for her own safety.
I know that she isn't in the best of mental states at the moment, but that's not an excuse for her to put others at risk.
I'll always go back to the point that she hid that Viraj is her husband from Raghav's family from the beginning, and she did it for her own sake. It was selfish. She came before everyone elses safety. She should've told the truth.
I mean if any one of us allowed a woman to stay in our house, the least we would expect her to do is tell us if we have a dangerous man living in our house(most likely because of her) so we could protect ourselves and the kids in the house. Would we easily forgive her for putting all of our lives and our families lives in danger, when she could have prevented it? I doubt it would be that easy.
Besides I think her telling the truth would have been better for her.
I don't hate Jhanvi, or think she is a wh**e and whatever else. But she makes some big mistakes, at least in my opinion. I also don't think she is to blame for Viraj's actions, but she should at least think about her own actions, and sometimes realise that she makes things worse for herself rather than better.