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Soaps1

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Posted: 13 years ago

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I never understand some of the things said like jhanvi or geeta for that matter never tried to treat viraj ... they did not know how to handle him ... they did not care for him ... if jhanvi had shut viraj up and shown retaliation he would have changed and blah blah ... my question is why should it always be a woman to do all this? It was not jhanvi's duty to treat viraj ... it was not viraj's right to get the care and attention despite no matter what he did to her ... it is not a woman's fate to suffer and endure pain but never leave her husband ... its all non sense the society has created to suppress women ... jhanvi did try to cure viraj ... but my question is how is that even her obligation? why should it be a woman's obligation to treat a torturing hubby? why should a woman care for a man who treats her like you don't even treat animals? And what more could geeta do? She suffered his torture for years and still did not leave him ... he brought her home as a servant still she did not leave him and wished and prayed for him to get better ... even convinced jhanvi for the same ... yet its the women who get the bashing ... what rubbish!!!

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crazygod

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Posted: 13 years ago

#12

Thanks for opening this thread...

It is really discerning to watch, people sympathise with abuser, because he has some mental illness; and some childhood problem which was only talked about, not even shown. And many for reasons that he is stylish and good looking. And the sympathy with Jhanvi is zero, who had been shown going through mental and physical tortures on an everyday basis. Just because she has no mental illness. Does she need a doctor to certify her mental state, can't people make out with what she has gone through.

People in depression commit suicide, and Thank God, that Jhanvi didn't commit suicide. Everyone who is posting against Jhanvi, May I ask them if they had faced the kind of life Jhanvi was subjected to, what would they have done. When you are locked up in a house, kept captive and not allowed to meet your own family, electrocuted, showered, thrown cockroaches at, gagged, beaten with stick, RAPED, Sing a lullaby for entire night, her family threatened, her family house burnt down, her child killed (many can call it accident if it happen to them, I will surely ask if they will still call that accident), then blamed for the child's death, her mother in law beaten in front of her, and so on and forth...

Just tears from Viraj, and his efforts to possess "her jaan" back, and ready to mince out teh words that I Love You Jaan... All these actions by Viraj makes them melt. Do they ignore the efforts that Jhanvi did to make the marriage work, get him treated. Komolika stood up, and she was threatened with daughter's life and death threat. She didn't live with Viraj, but Jhanvi was living day in and out. She did give him chance, atleast more than I personally would have given anyone.

Now she is standing strong, is it stopping Viraj from doing anything. He is just being careful, as this new ecosystem is not controlled by him, their is Gayatri and Raghav.

What is fault in Jhanvi's character, if Raghav loves her. Has she said yes, or made love to him... And personally I would say that she is blessed that Raghav loves her... Atleast for once luck favoured her in life.

Talking about her getting support, then we live in a society, and society was created to help each other. Even the NGO's who work in doemstic violence, ask society to step up and support. Just because Raghav is in love (he fell in love when he didn't know she was married); he is a wrong guy to ask help from???

And this reminds me what kind of society we live in, where real victims under social pressure continue to live with the abuser. When the show says that only 1 out of 4 women speak against their abusers, i truly understand now, that why other three don't speak up. Its because of people who are raising fingers at Jhanvi and Geeta.

I know this topic will raise lot of sparks, butt then the issue is volatile...

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Soaps1

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Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: crazygod
What is fault in Jhanvi's character, if Raghav loves her. Has she said yes, or made love to him... And personally I would say that she is blessed that Raghav loves her... Atleast for once luck favoured her in life.

I agree but my question is what is wrong if jhanvi did say yes or does say yes? What woudl be wrong if she did love him too? Why can't she love a man and move on in life? Why should she be deprived of love just because she was once an abuse victim? Why can't she love another man? Why can't she choose another man to be her life partner? Why should she or any woman in her place be doomed to reject the love waiting for her just because some people have a problem?

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Posted: 13 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: crazygod
Thanks for opening this thread...

It is really discerning to watch, people sympathise with abuser, because he has some mental illness; and some childhood problem which was only talked about, not even shown. And many for reasons that he is stylish and good looking. And the sympathy with Jhanvi is zero, who had been shown going through mental and physical tortures on an everyday basis. Just because she has no mental illness. Does she need a doctor to certify her mental state, can't people make out with what she has gone through.

People in depression commit suicide, and Thank God, that Jhanvi didn't commit suicide. Everyone who is posting against Jhanvi, May I ask them if they had faced the kind of life Jhanvi was subjected to, what would they have done. When you are locked up in a house, kept captive and not allowed to meet your own family, electrocuted, showered, thrown cockroaches at, gagged, beaten with stick, RAPED, Sing a lullaby for entire night, her family threatened, her family house burnt down, her child killed (many can call it accident if it happen to them, I will surely ask if they will still call that accident), then blamed for the child's death, her mother in law beaten in front of her, and so on and forth...

Just tears from Viraj, and his efforts to possess "her jaan" back, and ready to mince out teh words that I Love You Jaan... All these actions by Viraj makes them melt. Do they ignore the efforts that Jhanvi did to make the marriage work, get him treated. Komolika stood up, and she was threatened with daughter's life and death threat. She didn't live with Viraj, but Jhanvi was living day in and out. She did give him chance, atleast more than I personally would have given anyone.

Now she is standing strong, is it stopping Viraj from doing anything. He is just being careful, as this new ecosystem is not controlled by him, their is Gayatri and Raghav.

What is fault in Jhanvi's character, if Raghav loves her. Has she said yes, or made love to him... And personally I would say that she is blessed that Raghav loves her... Atleast for once luck favoured her in life.

Talking about her getting support, then we live in a society, and society was created to help each other. Even the NGO's who work in doemstic violence, ask society to step up and support. Just because Raghav is in love (he fell in love when he didn't know she was married); he is a wrong guy to ask help from???

And this reminds me what kind of society we live in, where real victims under social pressure continue to live with the abuser. When the show says that only 1 out of 4 women speak against their abusers, i truly understand now, that why other three don't speak up. Its because of people who are raising fingers at Jhanvi and Geeta.

I know this topic will raise lot of sparks, butt then the issue is volatile...

I have no words. Just this 👏 Will be back to comment.

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april10

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Posted: 13 years ago

#15

Everybody has said everything here but mostly I am frustrated that people still justify his misdeed under his OCPD. Can't understand want her to go back to him once he get treated. Doesn't he deserve punishment for all his deed?

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Soaps1

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Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Today after so long thankfully writers cleared that bit too that just because he has a disease does not mean he deserves sympathy because he is fully aware of his actions

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Originally posted by: Soaps1
Today after so long thankfully writers cleared that bit too that just because he has a disease does not mean he deserves sympathy because he is fully aware of his actions

full marks 2 dem 4 dis...it was a relief dat writers late, but atleast showed d main thing dat evil is evil, nd no OCPDD,PCPD or QCPD can b an excuse 4 V's actions..👏

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butterfly15..

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Posted: 13 years ago

#18

I don't blame Jhanvi for the things Viraj has done as she can't control the things he does.
Even when she stayed with him after all the abuse, I still didn't think she was wrong, as many people in real life stay with the one that abuses them, so it was a realistic approach by the writers.

Jhanvi could use underhand tactics or whatever to show Viraj's true colours to everyone. That's not what bothers me.
But what I don't like about her is that sometimes she doesn't think about the consequences of her actions in relation to other people.
It's fine if she's looking out for herself, and trying to save her life and whatever else, I say good for her. It's about time she tried to stand up to Viraj and move on with her life. It's also fine if she needs and wants help from others.

But what I can't excuse is that she, knowingly, puts others at risk for her own safety.

I know that she isn't in the best of mental states at the moment, but that's not an excuse for her to put others at risk.

I'll always go back to the point that she hid that Viraj is her husband from Raghav's family from the beginning, and she did it for her own sake. It was selfish. She came before everyone elses safety. She should've told the truth.
I mean if any one of us allowed a woman to stay in our house, the least we would expect her to do is tell us if we have a dangerous man living in our house(most likely because of her) so we could protect ourselves and the kids in the house. Would we easily forgive her for putting all of our lives and our families lives in danger, when she could have prevented it? I doubt it would be that easy.
Besides I think her telling the truth would have been better for her.

I don't hate Jhanvi, or think she is a wh**e and whatever else. But she makes some big mistakes, at least in my opinion. I also don't think she is to blame for Viraj's actions, but she should at least think about her own actions, and sometimes realise that she makes things worse for herself rather than better.

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Aya.

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Posted: 13 years ago

#19

First off, Jhanvi is a liar like it or not. A lie is a lie no matter what the reason is.

Now, about the comments that have been made, I would run away too if I was in Jhanvi's position, I wouldn't wanna fight a man, because let's face it, women are weak in that position. He'll hit you so hard that you wouldn't be able to move, so there's no point in "fighting" him.

There are a lot of things that I wouldn't do what Jhanvi did like, changing your name or whatever unrealistic thing she did, because you are who you are. Changing your name will not make you a "different" person. Jhanvi doesn't need to treat Viraj, because she already tried, but he deceived her & he's really not sick. I used to think he was, but I was wrong. I think the show makers just wanted to sell their story using DV & OCPD.

About Priya's case, she is to blame, because her dad already warned her about Viraj, but no ! She still decided to meet him.

There's nothing wrong in wanting help & seeking support. I don't care if Raghav-Sia decide to get married or Raghav helping Sia all the time, but please ! Just do it in a realistic way, so victims can actually know what to do ! Not this fake marriage crap. That's what's making me & others mad. Nothing is done realistically, or let's just say the RIGHT/TRUTHFUL way !

Yes, a girl like Sia deserves happiness & love, but not like this. It's usually takes time for a victim to heal, but no ! Everything is rushed & a bit too early !

You shouldn't hit anyone no matter what the reason is, but people just do so, because they think they are superior & powerful. It's just how they are raised & that's what they grew up learning. Your environment, everything that surrounds you, people, kids, even animals, they all effect your life ! But once your grown, you are responsible for what you do & what you say.

I really hate it how in India people say that a women should stay with her husband, obey him & worship him, like wth ?! If a man doesn't respect his wife, then she doesn't deserve to live with him. She can divorce him & leave. Period ! Who gives a crap what society says ?! I hate it how people (mostly in India) just brag without knowing crap. Like seriously, mind your own business !

I would do whatever it takes to protect myself, but not put others lives in danger. Jhanvi isn't in Manali anymore. Viraj doesn't own Gurgaon. She can SPEAK UP ! She can ask for help from anyone ! A doctor, lawyer, a cop, anyone ! She can run away to a different country with Raghav's help instead of playing this cat & mouse game. Just because you run away from something, it doesn't mean you're a coward. I'd rather run away then try to play silly games with an abuser. A victim would never want to see her abuser's face ! This Raghav-Sia-Viraj "fight" & punishing Viraj is seriously boring me to death. What goes around comes around. If you can't defeat him, someone else will stand up & show him his place.

Anyway, sorry for jotting everything down like this. I'm a bit in a hurry, but I hope I've made sense ! : )

Edited by Aya. - 13 years ago

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sara rafeek

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Posted: 13 years ago

#20

Ana I totally agree with you. People bash Jhanvi a lot just because she shakes up infront of V or she is scared of him. They dont realize that she has been mentally emotionally physically tortured so it will not be easy for her to stand up and just go fight with V. she is a person, she needs help and support.

But some people just go on defendng V and does not realize jhanvi suitation maybe because they love V or maybe because they dont know seriousness of these things.

I didnt read your whole post just skim it but will get back to you soon on this. awesome post

Edited by Saraella - 13 years ago