Is Religion Selfish? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Believe

Religion is of such a serious concern to planet Earth, that its guessings are no longer good enough.

Believe, Very interesting. Could you elaborate this part? I couldn't grasp the meaning of it.

Originally posted by: Maya_M

Believe, Very interesting. Could you elaborate this part? I couldn't grasp the meaning of it.

I think all religious people should accept the changes.....It is a sad occurrence tht religions are still fooling so many people into accepting that they will go to a heaven (If they are nice???🤢) or a hell (If they're naughty???🤢)that they should waste the one and only life they have in this hopeless venture........

Some question is there to ask who talking about heaven...what is the fate of a newborn child who dies????Can I go to heaven after my death as a non Beleiver?why should I believe I'm a sinner??😳

Originally posted by: Maya_M

Believe, Very interesting. Could you elaborate this part? I couldn't grasp the meaning of it.

Originally posted by: Believe

There is no concrete evidence or even an inkling of a suggestion of evidence that we live after we die. After life thoughts r just thoughts....

I found these interesting LINKS where these and other thoughts & words were taken from -

http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/lifeafterdeath.htm

Fact six: After-life thoughts are just thoughts.
Even though there is a case for religion being a necessary part of our social evolution, we have now reached a time when the use of reason and not superstition is the only hope of our happy survival. Eons of ethereal teachings have primed us to want that which is not obtainable as of yet – eternal life. Maybe one-day science will overcome this "problem" to some extent, but right here and right now, regrettable as this is, we all must die and that is the end – goodnight.
It is a sad occurrence that religions are still fooling so many people into accepting that they will go to a heaven (If they are nice???) or a hell (If they're naughty???) and that they should waste the one and only life they have in this hopeless venture. Not only do the religious miss out on the imaginary after-life, but the present life they have can be so distorted as to make it none too worthwhile or even totally wasted.
The Universe is an entirely natural process and scientists have not detected one super-natural atom. That our imagination can lead us in directions guided by nothing but fantasy is no reason at all to accept the convenient doctrines of an eternal life.
There may well be something we cannot even conceive of about the Universe, but that statement is self-explanatory. If we cannot conceive of it, we can therefore make no assumptions or predictions about it, nor claim that we can. Religion is of such a serious concern to planet Earth, that its guessings are no longer good enough.

Fact five: There is no concrete evidence or even an inkling of a suggestion of evidence that we live after we die.
If we were to have an after-life, what would it be like? Would we have the body and mind at the moment of death, or would it be the body and mind of a time of peak health? Would it be no body and only mind, an impossibility to reasoned thinking, (for a mind requires a living brain) or would it be something totally different? Just because we are able to think of these combinations does not give any of them, or indeed any other such thought, some kind of credibility.

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

I found these interesting LINKS where these and other thoughts & words were taken from -

http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/lifeafterdeath.htm

Fact six: After-life thoughts are just thoughts.
Even though there is a case for religion being a necessary part of our social evolution, we have now reached a time when the use of reason and not superstition is the only hope of our happy survival. Eons of ethereal teachings have primed us to want that which is not obtainable as of yet – eternal life. Maybe one-day science will overcome this "problem" to some extent, but right here and right now, regrettable as this is, we all must die and that is the end – goodnight.
It is a sad occurrence that religions are still fooling so many people into accepting that they will go to a heaven (If they are nice???) or a hell (If they're naughty???) and that they should waste the one and only life they have in this hopeless venture. Not only do the religious miss out on the imaginary after-life, but the present life they have can be so distorted as to make it none too worthwhile or even totally wasted.
The Universe is an entirely natural process and scientists have not detected one super-natural atom. That our imagination can lead us in directions guided by nothing but fantasy is no reason at all to accept the convenient doctrines of an eternal life.
There may well be something we cannot even conceive of about the Universe, but that statement is self-explanatory. If we cannot conceive of it, we can therefore make no assumptions or predictions about it, nor claim that we can. Religion is of such a serious concern to planet Earth, that its guessings are no longer good enough.

Fact five: There is no concrete evidence or even an inkling of a suggestion of evidence that we live after we die.
If we were to have an after-life, what would it be like? Would we have the body and mind at the moment of death, or would it be the body and mind of a time of peak health? Would it be no body and only mind, an impossibility to reasoned thinking, (for a mind requires a living brain) or would it be something totally different? Just because we are able to think of these combinations does not give any of them, or indeed any other such thought, some kind of credibility.

The concept and Words i got from not this link ...its from another Book Religion n its some wrong concept..............

The book people not mention about this Link sorry ok😃

Am not Walking Encyclopedia like you QT😛😉...Reffer karna padthaa...😊

Originally posted by: Maya_M

Resulting in religious radicalism today.

Absolutely! The more I think of it, I wonder if there exists a solution anymore. A population of 6 billlion of which most are unwilling to learn their own hundreds of centuries ancient books! .. Some don't even have any written guidelines anymore and hence have been mis-construed via multiple editions or via teachings spread by word of mouth.
Ancient Europe witnessed crusades and till date faces a burning Israel Palestine issue.
There is no reason to blame any religion for the evidently selfish & cruel acts painting the earth red , yet we all in some way need to take the blame for not understanding it / learning it / teaching it right.

Resolution seems unlikely and thinking of it brings out the rare pessimism inside me.

Originally posted by: Believe

The concept and Words i got from not this link ...its from another Book Religion n its some wrong concept..............
The book people not mention about this Link sorry ok😃
Am not Walking Encyclopedia like you QT😛😉...Reffer karna padthaa...😊

You can share the NAME of the book and the AUTHOR. That would be just fine in order to escape the act of plagiarism.

We all refer to several topics, books, even blogs, but we all SHARE the origin especially when we copy paste VERBOSE. Please inform DT to look into this if you like. I have PMed you and chatted online with you enough to try to explain. I am just a regular member too. Enjoy posting.

Originally posted by: Believe

I believe each one of us must be prepared to meet our Creator....but i dont believe the heavn n hell concept.The real god's followr no need any books...See the preeching people only preach...they dont know wats the real world..they just travel in AC cars and stay in High fi homes or flats...They cannont do work...They just tell only big big point in books...So my friends One day go and work with Labours then you know wheres god ......Religion is of such a serious concern to planet Earth, that its guessings are no longer good enough.

Some people make 'God' sound like a tyrant. Do it or else you'll "pay". Those are the very reasons why most people learn to fear God, not love Him.😳

There is no concrete evidence or even an inkling of a suggestion of evidence that we live after we die. After life thoughts r just thoughts....

Humens are just humen same like other creatures in the earth,Why animals not going heven?

i believe NATURE is our god.............😊

Originally posted by: Believe

Humens are just humen same like other creatures in the earth,Why animals not going heven?
i believe NATURE is our god.............😊

Okay, about Nature being God,
but do you think religion is selfish?

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

Okay, about Nature being God,
but do you think religion is selfish?

Ofcos YES...................they are selfish.............Thats why i tell before that "God sound like a tyrant. Do it or else you'll "pay". Those are the very reasons why most people learn to fear God," No one should be told how to worship God. We each have our own way to feel closer to God through different ways.......

edit to add old point

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

You can share the NAME of the book and the AUTHOR. That would be just fine in order to escape the act of plagiarism.

We all refer to several topics, books, even blogs, but we all SHARE the origin especially when we copy paste VERBOSE. Please inform DT to look into this if you like. I have PMed you and chatted online with you enough to try to explain. I am just a regular member too. Enjoy posting.

The book name i mention above there......The book published from kerala...publisher Dc books but the auther name i dont remeber....

When we debating...you have your own view n ideas.........we get ideas from diff books n other media.....so nothing bad to adop the concept......

people adopting new concept thats why new religion n new parties like that things happen in this world........😊

If you not agree with my concept n ideas feel free Just do Debate .............😊