Lesson for Bollywood - Page 2

Aamir never said Hindus are intolerant and did NOT name any single particular community. He only said intolerance increased in India and his wife is concerned about what she reads in papers about happenings. He never blamed any single community.

So stop copy pasting same false claim when his interview is there for anyone to see.

And his words on intolerance were right. Any violence over petty reasons is wrong. Nowadays people are targeted over even memes or SM posts so Aamir was not wrong and even SRK was right about intolerance.

Naseer too was right on fanaticism of BOTH communities. He had criticised all communities for increased vigilantism incidents.

Javed also criticises fanaticism of all communities. Yet only one political group targets them and we all know why. They do not represent any religion but are paid political trolls.

Originally posted by: atominis

I know you are right. But we live in a regime where even ordinary citizens and students are jailed for liking posts or sharing memes.

Or fired from jobs or expelled from college for SM posts.

This is a vindictive regime and anti democratic. Of course all stars have right to public opinion and support whatever ideology they want but they sometimes need to keep quiet for own sake. Amitabh does same since burning his hands in 80s and suffering all through 90s due to foray in politics. Kishore Kumar was also banned from AIR and replaced with copycats for speaking against Emergency in 1975.

This is era of undeclared emergency and pliable masses easily fooled by SM and media propaganda in name of faith and nationalism. Why to give them fodder by discussing openly what you eat, like Rishi bragged about eating beef or flaunting your faith or atheism etc?

Atul Kulkarni's old tweets are also being used to bash LSC just because he said he was atheist and not a Hindu. Stars and filmmakers are being harassed for own beliefs and result is there to see.

Rishi Kapoor actually faced stone pelting outside his house, RK studio and on his car for his beef comment in 2015. Bhansali was slapped. Prakash Jha was attacked for making Aashram. Bollywood either gotta keep quiet or take legal action rather than saying things, apologising later or keeping quiet later after saying things earlier.

In a way it is good that the real truth of such people came out in open now.

They can't hide their double faces behind a mask anymore.

Good, got exposed in open.

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Originally posted by: Maroonporsche

The biggest difference they can make is just make nice films. Anything else is good but not required.

I do not think it is good. I was fed up of seeing political polarised debates after Lata and Dilip K died.

I have had enough of artistes and fans getting too political or communal or into social, cultural or caste or gender issues beyond a limit. It hurts to see them talk shit. Or provocative interview or call or post from them.

Let entertainment be entertainment. I hate how it is ruined when we learn realities of stars or their political or communal comments, controversies. I commend Hrithik and Ranbir for being the ONLY mainstream stars not speaking on any issue nor hobnobbing with politicians.

Yes I am glad they are exposed. They used to bash Congress for what it did during Emergency but themselves do same when someone says a word that contradicts their ideology.

I wonder why any creative person would support such politicians and ideologies who stifle FoE and spread hate.

Wish celebs kept away from govts or politicians of any party altogether. I hate excessive combining of celebs and politics in India.

Are you trying to give Bollywood a free pass by claiming it's the audience's non-film-related peeves that caused Bollywood movies to fail?

Because it sure looks movie-watchers are being portrayed as bigots who can't stand to hear an opinion different from theirs, and therefore, they deliberately got the films to fail.

Cancel culture from the right in other words.

Not all films they make are bad. I am not saying they get a free pass. They do have problems with crap content, high ticket prices which are not worth it, ageing or talentless actors, plagiarism etc.

But they are indeed suffering an image problem and slow build up of antipathy thanks to cancel culture.

It is not always from RW. It comes from other side too which reflects in how Randeep Hooda was bashed for his decade old comment on Mayawati or Kangana is flopping and losing all credibility.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Are you trying to give Bollywood a free pass by claiming it's the audience's non-film-related peeves that caused Bollywood movies to fail?

Because it sure looks movie-watchers are being portrayed as bigots who can't stand to hear an opinion different from theirs, and therefore, they deliberately got the films to fail.

Cancel culture from the right in other words.

I don't know if I have the answer to your question but I am sure it has some effect on the larger public sensibilities.

For example -- My driver used to watch Salman Khan movies in the theatre but has started seeing the Khans as enemies ever since Modi govt. started with their propaganda. It's not just him but the country as a whole has become more intolerant of Muslims and liberal values. Bollywood was targeted when Sushant Singh Rajput committed suicide, and was painted in a bad light. This cancel culture started from there.

I don't know the statistics, but surely it has some effect on the general movie-going public? especially those who are brainwashed easily?

Originally posted by: mintyblue

I don't know if I have the answer to your question but I am sure it has some effect on the larger public sensibilities.

For example -- My driver used to watch Salman Khan movies in the theatre but has started seeing the Khans as enemies ever since Modi govt. started with their propaganda. It's not just him but the country as a whole has become more intolerant of Muslims and liberal values. Bollywood was targeted when Sushant Singh Rajput committed suicide, and was painted in a bad light. This cancel culture started from there.

I don't know the statistics, but surely it has some effect on the general movie-going public? especially those who are brainwashed easily?

God, I hope not.

I know the boycott bots are bragging about it, but the movies actually were boring, so I'm hoping Brahmastra and/or Vikram Vedha will put a stop to the nonsense.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

God, I hope not.

I know the boycott bots are bragging about it, but the movies actually were boring, so I'm hoping Brahmastra and/or Vikram Vedha will put a stop to the nonsense.

You found LSC boring? I thought it had all the ingredients to please the masses. Indians are an emotional lot, and this movie was full of emotions.

yes, it was slow-paced, I do agree, but in 2018 a movie like October garnered 58.41 crores despite being completely "slow", and with Varun Dhawan as opposed to a big star like Aamir Khan.

Originally posted by: atominis

Not all films they make are bad. I am not saying they get a free pass. They do have problems with crap content, high ticket prices which are not worth it, ageing or talentless actors, plagiarism etc.

But they are indeed suffering an image problem and slow build up of antipathy thanks to cancel culture.

It is not always from RW. It comes from other side too which reflects in how Randeep Hooda was bashed for his decade old comment on Mayawati or Kangana is flopping and losing all credibility.

Left wing cancel culture is extensive. I know that. I'm saying if this is actually the doing of the boycott bots, it is cancel culture from the right.

I doubt it. Maybe a few thousand didn't watch because of boycotts, but my feeling is it's because they got better content thanks to pandemic and OTT.