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Freethinker112

@Freethinker112

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Posted: 12 years ago

#141

Originally posted by: K.Universe.
By definition, existence should encompass everything and that includes logic as well.

But these are all our words, our definitions, that are conflicting with one another, stepping on each others toes.

That's where we run in problems, limitations of language and comprehension. Does our brain need to evolve more to "get it"? I posted this before here, lost in all the chatting that went on, that what if human mind is not developed enough yet? What if even some advanced species came to teach us, we just couldn't grasp it? But I would like to continue without this assumption. 😆

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BirdieNumNum

@CuckooCutter7

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#142

Originally posted by: Freethinker112
So, finally I got the I don't know. 😆

This divine sensation, might that be the reason we made up a God like entity and not vice-versa? Is this thought so unreasonable?

yep, we dont know anything that can be proven in scientific terms, and i have been saying that since time immemorial.

As it turns out, we dont really know anything otherwise too. All we can do is speculate. If we knew anything for sure, then we would have the eureka kind of science you were looking for, which i dont feel will be possible..

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Vintage.Wine

@Vintage.Wine

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#143

Originally posted by: Freethinker112

What are the powers of God? I assume you are talking power as in the attributes of a being, not the physics definition? If so, do you believe the singularity to be a conscious being?

Why can't singularity have a conscious element associated with that ? This is why I said ..have we discovered all forms or energies ? My suspicion is ..Singularity might have been the result of annihilation of another Universe that existed prior to the one we are in ..And if we go to it's origin ..we can't be sure that the laws now know could have applied in that world ...May be someone is watching over many such universes at a time ...Creating many and destroying many ...The logic is simple ..randomness can't be so fasninatingly systematic ...Your problem is you always perceive consciousess as awareness that we know of ...The energy then could be much more aware than us all ...Or it could be conscious but in a totally different tangent ...which we even don't know of ...If there is creation ..there has to be a Creator ..if there isn't let' call it an accident ..😆

Vintu ...😛

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BirdieNumNum

@CuckooCutter7

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#144

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

why would logic (we could call it order, if we want) emerge from an entity that is not bound by logic (we could call it disorder). to what purpose?

i think if we could ever determine purpose, we'd have answers to all the rest.

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Vintage.Wine

@Vintage.Wine

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#145

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

yep, we dont know anything that can be proven in scientific terms, and i have been saying that since time immemorial.

As it turns out, we dont really know anything otherwise too. All we can do is speculate. If we knew anything for sure, then we would have the eureka kind of science you were looking for, which i dont feel will be possible..

Birdie ..There is actually nothing to speculate ..The question is whether people would choose to admit something that has been proven by the laws of science ...Energy ..<< Existed forever ...Free is now saying that energy can't exist independent of matter ..that sounds awfully wrong ...Energy created the matter ..And associated itself with it in different degrees ..in accordance with the molecular arrangement ..<< Again a constant decision ...The spirituality must be considered ..It to me sounds like a process of Creation and Annihilation ..which goes on perpetually ..May be in order to purify the energy ...? Cause everything that was created outta energy would become energy again ..While the matter would be negated by anti matter or decayed.. ...hmm ..

Vintu ...😊

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Freethinker112

@Freethinker112

Sparkler

Posted: 12 years ago

#146

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

yep, we dont know anything that can be proven in scientific terms, and i have been saying that since time immemorial.

As it turns out, we dont really know anything otherwise too. All we can do is speculate. If we knew anything for sure, then we would have the eureka kind of science you were looking for, which i dont feel will be possible..

Exactly, we don't know. That's why i prefer to not believe unless we have evidence, rather than believing because we have no evidence to the contrary.

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BirdieNumNum

@CuckooCutter7

Dazzler

Posted: 12 years ago

#147

Originally posted by: Freethinker112
Exactly, we don't know. That's why i prefer to not believe unless we have evidence, rather than believing because we have no evidence to the contrary.

either way, you're still speculating.

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Freethinker112

@Freethinker112

Sparkler

Posted: 12 years ago

#148

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

either way, you're still speculating.

Yes, it is no certainty, but we can use this for all practical purposes. Like any other fictional being. We don't have evidence against there existence, but for all practical purposes we consider them not real.

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Vintage.Wine

@Vintage.Wine

Voyager

Posted: 12 years ago

#149

Originally posted by: Freethinker112

Exactly, we don't know. That's why i prefer to not believe unless we have evidence, rather than believing because we have no evidence to the contrary.

If you commenced the debate believing that someone outta somewhere would provide you wiith Evidence ...then I can only wish ya good luck ..I believe we are here to test our suspicions building a common hypothesis ..If you want people to refute your points ..why don't you refute there points on the basis of evidence? science ain't helping ..The spirituality alone can't come to our rescue ..So lets combine both and try and achieve some kinda consensus ...Or would you like to say the Law of conservation of energy is wrong ? Merely cause you can't go infinitely backward to know the origin of the energy ? Some things are beyond mundane ..You need to understand that well ...The ever existing nature of the energy in whatever form though sounds beyond us ..can very well be practical ..We don't even know that is the universe we know is unique ..If it ain't the whole concept might change ..including the Space time ..
And I would love it if you stop calling the GOD as a being .. 😆 << Which can be perceived with senses or experiments ..Its something that exists in a shapeless and timeless state ...Thats why people allude to that energy which never exhausts as the GOD ...

Vintu .. 😛

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Freethinker112

@Freethinker112

Sparkler

Posted: 12 years ago

#150

@Vintu

Particle man, not matter. Photon has energy, but it isn't matter.

E^2 = P^2C^2 + M^2C^4.

At least one of the right hand term has to exist for energy. So either mass or momentum. A particle will carry energy. Energy is a property, not a thing in itself.

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