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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Freethinker112


Can't we substitute God with the singularity, for which also classical laws don't hold?


only if we ascribe the powers of "God" to it.😊 A God that is logical and is not about to do illogical things like creating something that he himself cant lift (thereby making himself non-omnipotent) etc.
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Posted: 12 years ago

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only if we ascribe the powers of "God" to it.😊 A God that is logical and is not about to do illogical things like creating something that he himself cant lift (thereby making himself non-omnipotent) etc.


What are the powers of God? I assume you are talking power as in the attributes of a being, not the physics definition? If so, do you believe the singularity to be a conscious being?
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

A God that is logical and is not about to do illogical things like creating something that he himself cant lift (thereby making himself non-omnipotent) etc.



Any entity, irrespective of the name associated with it, that is bound by logic and/or aware of logic, should logically question itself from whence it came.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Freethinker112

What are the powers of God? I assume you are talking power as in the attributes of a being, not the physics definition? If so, do you believe the singularity to be a conscious being?


i really dont know. Sometimes i feel it is so, then i dont know. But i do get a strong sense of something divine, almost as if there's something that knows all... all around me. I dont know the purpose. Sometimes i feel its all a game to him, although i dont know what the objective is... I feel he will cut me to size if i soar too high, and will lift me when i am down...
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Universe.



Any entity, irrespective of the name associated with it, that is bound by logic and/or aware of logic, should logically question itself from whence it came.


Is existence logical? Just a question, not trying to argue.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Freethinker112



Sound Sir ...😆...is a WAVE in it's basic form ..It causes distortions of the particles in the medium through which it travels ...And Excuse Me ..😆 Cosmic Microwave Background radiation found was from the time when the Universe cooled off below 3000 K ...Do you believe that when every piece of material was compressed in a infinitely small supersymmetry and the tempreture was infinite at that time ..can any particle exist at such enoromous tempreture and in such a compressed state ? And we know from what the Big Bang timeline states that the matter was created ..Step by step ...after the RUNAWAY process ie : The Inflation ..The theory cealrly states that Energy that existed prior to this time created the matter after that time was elpsed ...

So let's not dispute that ..if we are going to be serious here ..😆 ...Energy existed INDEPENDENT of all matter ..it then created the matter .. And that's as true as could be ..😊

Vintu ...



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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum


i really dont know. Sometimes i feel it is so, then i dont know. But i do get a strong sense of something divine, almost as if there's something that knows all... all around me. I dont know the purpose. Sometimes i feel its all a game to him, although i dont know what the objective is... I feel he will cut me to size if i soar too high, and will lift me when i am down...


So, finally I got the I don't know. 😆

This divine sensation, might that be the reason we made up a God like entity and not vice-versa? Is this thought so unreasonable?
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Posted: 12 years ago
By definition, existence should encompass everything and that includes logic as well.

But these are all our words, our definitions, that are conflicting with one another, stepping on each others toes.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Universe.



Any entity, irrespective of the name associated with it, that is bound by logic and/or aware of logic, should logically question itself from whence it came.


that follows logically in the classical view of thing. I am not too sure if we postulate God as some Entity beyond the classical world-view. Things like "when" and "whence" for example are classical constructions...
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

that follows logically in the classical view of thing. I am not too sure if we postulate God as some Entity beyond the classical world-view. Things like "when" and "whence" for example are classical constructions...



why would logic (we could call it order, if we want) emerge from an entity that is not bound by logic (we could call it disorder). to what purpose?

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