why double standards towards muslims? - Page 2

Originally posted by: sam_84

*When someone drives a perfect car in an improper manner, no one blames the car.... But when any Muslim makes a mistake or treats people in a bad manner - people say "Islam is the reason"!

PS: i am not talking about each and every individual.

Why the double standards toward Muslims, you ask? Hmm, try figuring that out yourself, Sam. Like I've said this before, if one or a few people are behind our back, then it might be that those people are at fault, and we are unnecessarily being picked upon. However, if over half of the world is behind our back, then common sense implies that there must be something wrong with us, and not really the world out there - unless there is a strong reason as to why half of the world will be against us. Are we that special?

Islam is a faith, a system of belief, a way of life - much like any other religion out there. It shouldn't be any different from [a] Christianity or [a] Judaism (in fact, study shows us that these three religions are more similar than different in nature). Yet it is. There's something severely wrong - either with the people opposed to Islam, the religion itself, or its followers - with it. Now which one amongst the three is the actual cause of the problems, the root of all the troubles out there, is the question at hand.

Sam, you have not answered the question I asked you out several times in the past. To quote a recent post:

[quote] Why is Islam the only religion that is being taken out of context, and that too repeatedly? What is being done by the Muslim community to clear the misunderstandings that fellow Muslims (or people who consider them as one) have with their religion? What actions has been taken so far to stop fellow Muslims from going astray? Why are other religions not as much misunderstood as Islam is? Why is the media only against Islam, and why not so much against any other religion out there? Why is Islam being targeted the most while others are being spared? Why is Islam being looked in a different light by the general people? What's the real story out there? Is it a propaganda by the west? Is it blind hatred that people have? Is it Islamophobia? [/quote]

Yeah, there might be double-standards involved, but there must be a solid and strong reason behind that as well, right? I guess that was the point of your thread - trying to know the reason behind it. But Sam, instead of asking others, have you ever asked yourself the same question, and considered the possibility that the reason may be you, your religion, us, our religion, and not the rest of the world?

Instead of crying fowl over why Islam is being singled out or all Muslims being treated as shit, I guess one should go forth and try to figure out the problem first, and look at their religion and its followers objectively, instead of blindly blaming the westerners. Look at their religion from an unbiased perspective, and see if the religion is really as peaceful as it claims itself to be, or if Muslims in general are really abiding by the words in/of the Quran/Hadeeth, or if they (the words) are being taken out of context - and if that is the case, one should try to take actions to stop the misunderstandings from spreading far until it becomes catastrophic for the world.

Similarly, instead of blindly blaming Islam or Muslims for all the atrocities in the world, people should try to gain some deeper knowledge in the religion, and see if the religion is really as monstrous as the media makes it appear, try to understand why things happen the way it does in the Islamic community, or if every Muslims you meet out there are really a bunch of terrorists or oppressed individuals.

Most of us believe - and worse, keep on believing - what we are made to believe. We rarely go out of our comfort zone as the fear of having our past beliefs shattering down keep us within our boundaries, and as such we seldom experience the unknowable. High time we stop looking at the world through rose-tinted glasses and face the reality - no matter how fearful it is - out there. High time we realize that it is us who could be wrong, and them, who could be right.

Personally speaking, I feel there are problems with both sides that need(s?) to be fixed. Muslims are indeed being targeted, discriminated against (something that I have experienced too, even if in a very mild way) and not treated well, but there are problems with Islam as well. That is not meant to say that discrimination is [for?] granted; any form of discrimination is wrong.

Originally posted by: Emptiness

Something is fundamentally wrong when you have sects ranging from the ultra-orthodox, conservative, puritanical Wahhabist/Salafis, to the peaceful and spiritual Sufis and Ahmadiyyas.... all of these sects use the same sources, and yet there is such a huge difference in beliefs and attitudes, how is this possible?... it seems like there is a bit of everything for everyone in Islam.

And not only terrorism, Islam suffers from orthodox influences, like honor killings, which is too backward. Recently, there was the issue where this cleric declared that all women shouldn't work and all that crap? Seriously, who gave him the right to vouch for all the women? Has he ever heard of such a thing as 'freedom of expression'? Good that he took back his declaration. And is it just an coincidence that African countries in civil war or political unrest have mostly Muslim leaders etc..

• No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

I think Muslim womens facing unique problems,they suffering different problem from soceity and in life....domestic violence, abuse of divorce and child custody laws, abuse of the polygamy system...discriminated against by both nonmuslims and Muslims..In west we can hear different news that they are discriminated against at work and they are not given jobs,arab countries like saudi they like caged,they cant do wrk or drive car ,freedom of speech, no voting rights etc and they face discrimination frm their own Muslim community... In the name of religion, politics has reigned all over the world...the days of organized religion are finished...I feel sometime, these religions are just corpses, stinking... still they are immensely powerful, becos the whole past has given them prestige, authority....n nobody wants to leave power and authority. Thy go on manipulating humanity, exploiting human beings... they go on keeping you retarded..... Thy don't want you to evolve, becos the moment you evolve and you becom intelligent, you will be free from the bondage which is their vested interest...its a infinit process.....I think people should rethink about the religion and live their own ways and believe and try to find the real truth..😊

Originally posted by: sam_84

*When someone drives a perfect car in an improper manner, no one blames the car.... But when any Muslim makes a mistake or treats people in a bad manner - people say "Islam is the reason"!

PS: i am not talking about each and every individual.