Originally posted by: karandel_2008
It is nothing new, but I was just trying to look at cause and effect using different words. Moreover, I was thinking that at fundamental level an electron can be very much analogous to a human body. Its just that human body is more complex, but some fundamental things should remain same. For example, if concepts like energy, input/senses, output/action, free will/randomness or quality can be applied to human body then they should as well be applicable to any particle like an electron and vice versa. Thus, if free will exists for humans then it should exist for an electron as well. However, free will itself may or may not exist.
Agree that at the fundamental level, things would have to remain the same; and most concepts such as energy transformations, communication between the fundamental particles, randomness etc. do apply even at the particle level.. After all, nature does seem to seamlessly collapse the quantum wave into the classical bodies without any visible transformations happening right in front of our naked eyes (at least faster than what our neurons could communicate).
Originally posted by: karandel_2008
On cause and effect, my point was that the cycle appears to be as follows: a signal or energy comes as input, a choice is made involving quality and then an action is done that releases energy to outside. Thus, it appears to me that energy comes in, some choices are made based on the current state and energy is re-cycled back to outside in another form. The current state of the "recycling machine" is also changed in the process.
From an electron's point of view: a photon is received, choice is made to absorb it or let it go. The quality factor , that leads to the decision, here could be whether the incoming photon was in harmony with the current state of the electron. From this harmony and quality sound analogous to me. Later, another photon with different form is released from the electron and the current state of electron may be altered.
If we talk about human body: We receive signals from outside. The choices are made based on something. That something is our current state, our memories, our DNA and our stored experiences. Again the quality factor could be the harmony with the current state of these things. After that it results into some action and energy is released into the environment. Moreover, again the current state of the body in forms of memories is altered in the process.
Makes a lot of sense. While the choices are not too obvious at the particle level, at the classical level, they become much more apparent.
Originally posted by: karandel_2008
What could be the motive behind all this endless recycling of energy? Some possible motives could be survival - if electron doesn't absorb a photon, it may crash into the nucleus or harmony - electron finds some actions that are a true match to its nature.
However, there should be some more grand motive that keeps things turning around. Some motive that has a direction, some motive that is timeless and, thus, has remained unchanged since this universe was born.
Motive as in purpose right? That's the elusive part of this whole puzzle. That's what we are all after. Question is how do we try to understand it at the a) particle level b) universal level, while being stuck at the classical level?
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