Why, why do this to Ashok CVs? - Page 4

Originally posted by: Happy_hippy

A wonderful and apt post

Never had thought from this angle when I saw the episode..

Great going ..

Originally posted by: Kaana

Yes, but did not attribute her stupidity to Brahminic qualities.
I only made point that she is not able to scale up as a queen in a Kshatiya context because of her primary nature.

And she does understand the Kshatriya role better as she is a Brahmin and not exposed to it. Secondly her Brahminic nature supersedes when it comes to ahimsa, in her view. Just because Chanakya, a Brahmin, was smart, practical, well learned, farsighted need not mean every other Brahmin out there need be the same way right? She definitely is not well learned and just goes by her heart. She is unable to appreciate things like Chanakya.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

Precisely. That's where all Shastrarth logic falls flat.😆

Btw,the Veda writers were not so innocent actually, they in a way laid the path for untouchabiity to develop. "Brahmins emerged from the head of Brahma, Kshatriyas from the chest (or arms,I don't remember well), Vaishyas from thighs and Shudras from the feet. (Purusha Shukta).

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

If nature and intelligence cannot be mixed, then what should the assigning of caste stand for---Nature,intelligence or predisposition?

In what context can the verse from Purusha Shukta be explained?

Originally posted by: rohini55

As a person with deep interest in modern politics and who has witnessed the discrimination and atrocities on the lower castes by upper castes, I would like to know what is the Varnic or primary quality of the Dalits who are placed below even the shudras?

I notice that your arguments and examples stop with Brahmins and Kshatriyas. How does this work for the Shudras and those placed outside the caste system?

If an oppressed Dalit kills his Brahmin oppressor, is he acting according to his Varnic attribute or will he suffer even more in the next birth because he has taken the law into his hands and killed someone?


If karma is decided according to good deed and bad deed, who decides what is a good deed and what is a bad deed?

If in order to be born a Brahmin you need to be Satvic in your attitude, how is that possible when you are an oppressed victim against whom extreme violence been unleashed?

In other words, a Shudra or a Dalit is situationally so placed that he can never hope to migrate to a higher caste?

Originally posted by: Kaana

I meant to say nature and intelligence should not be confused up with in that context of discussion.
And who allots the caste - what is your tale on this?
Purusha Sukta - I would like to refrain from commenting on it please.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

The context of development of caste lies buried in the 2nd Millennium,when pastoral Aryan tribes (many of who had mingled and procreated with the native Dravidians and Australoids) had just began to settle down into Tribal Kingdoms consisting of temporary Gramaas or villages. That is when the divisions of labour began to come into question. I can write a detailed message on this later, if you permit.