Aishwarya Rai takes a dig at Alia Bhatt. Is Ash jealous of Alia? - Page 19

Originally posted by: hotchoco

Again, Ranbir is almost 20 years older so he should have more credibility with the audience. Why are you saying it like it's something grand? 🤣

And of course he's going to be given all the opportunities that Ranbir also got. Unlike Ranbir, he at least worked harder for it and spend more time putting in the effort learning before taking the handouts.

Why do you sound so perturbed about the gold platter that Ranbir also got? It should be par for the course for you.

Ranbir fans should sit down.

Ranbir s hard work can be seen by the general cinema-going audience. Who thinks he is a nice actor. That s what matters

Industry can provide you with opportunities. But cant force the audience to like

Ranbir actually has a decent body of work. Movies and characters loved by the audience

I am not perturbed at all. Just don't agree that Aryan is more qualified when it comes to movies. When it comes to film your work is your biggest qualification

Aryan is yet to start

So present reality Ranbir IS more qualified than Aryan

Originally posted by: hotchoco

Keep twisting in the wind in whatever direction. But education IS preparation. Putting in that extra effort is ALWAYS more credible than not doing so and just coasting on everything you can get without it. The desire to actually work towards something that you want is better than just lapping up whatever opportunities are thrown into your lap.

Some people being born gifted is a completely different thing. Most people aren't born with that kind of talent and that's when effort and education makes a much bigger difference.

Nuh-huh. You don't get to twist my words. Point out to me ONE place where I said education is not important. I haven't.

I'm going to repeat what I said. COURSES do not qualify anyone for the arts. They're there to teach you technicalities.

Which means Aryan Khan is currently less qualified than ANYONE in Bollywood, including the non-successful ones because they're at least trying. He is certainly not better qualified at this point than even Ananya because yeah, she's at least working at it.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Working hard to get the skills required is good. But a formal degree most of the times ain't anything in the arts.

Some people being gifted is a given but that's not the case for everyone. Even people like Meryl Streep and Viola Davis have acting degrees and put in the work and effort for that. Yes, it does matter. Of course if you are lucky enough in the arts, you can make it without it.

But none of that has any bearing on nepo-kids who always have everything handed to them anyway. All this only applies to outsiders. Even Abhishek is still hanging around doing 5 movies a year. Ranbir still hanging around isn't the great achievement his fans seem to think it is. His credibility is equally debatable.

And for a production/direction career which is what Aryan wants, it's even more necessary to have the proper grounding and learn all the technical skills so you don't make inferior products where even simple things like lighting and sound are going wrong.

Originally posted by: hotchoco

Some people being gifted is a given but that's not the case for everyone. Even people like Meryl Streep and Viola Davis have acting degrees and put in the work and effort for that. Yes, it does matter. Of course if you are lucky enough in the arts, you can make it without it.

But none of that has any bearing on nepo-kids who always have everything handed to them anyway. All this only applies to outsiders. Even Abhishek is still hanging around doing 5 movies a year. Ranbir still hanging around isn't the great achievement his fans seem to think it is.

And for a production/direction career which is what Aryan wants, it's even more necessary to have the proper grounding and learn all the technical skills so you don't make inferior products when even simple things like lighting and sound are going wrong.

Who's arguing AGAINST courses? I'm all for it. Because you don't have to start on square 1 if you know the technical aspects of it. Point is doing a course is not any more important than the work you put in. So calling Aryan more qualified is really insulting to actors who worked hard to get where they are, nepo or otherwise.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Who's arguing AGAINST courses? I'm all for it. Because you don't have to start on square 1 if you know the technical aspects of it. Point is doing a course is not any more important than the work you put in. So calling Aryan more qualified is really insulting to actors who worked hard to get where they are, nepo or otherwise.

You and M.Wheeler jumped in because @JustWandering said Aryan is better qualified in terms of education. He is. Period. Whether you value that or not doesn't matter. These are just simple facts.

For a nepo-kid, none of this is a requirement. No work, effort, or preparation is required of any kind and you will still have the path paved for you. For someone like that to care enough to put in that effort and actually learn is important.

Ranbir, Alia, Ananya -- all of them hanging around doesn't make them any more credible just because they happen to be working. Of course you would be with all those connections. It's not the serve their fans thinks is. I'm an Alia fan myself because I like her as an actor but even if she was a bad actor, she would have still been hanging around just like Abhishek and dozens of others like him. It doesn't mean anything amazing.

I spent the last hour arguing for Ranbir Kapoor of all people!

Dislike his personality, think he's an average actor propped up by his network, but guy has credibility because he puts in the work and delivers. To claim untested Aryan is more qualified because he has a degree simply boggles the mind.

And I actually have no particular dislike of Aryan and am a fan of SRK.

I gotta sleep now 😆

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

A degree is the qualification for BW now?

Dear God! Why didn't someone tell me this before? I'm very good at exams. Will surely get into a top school for scriptwriting. Should guarantee me acceptance. Right?

Sheesh! Wasted so much time writing, refining, tossing, writing, refining, writing again.

I think the point @Justwandering was making is that Aryan has been to film school and from the looks of it, he was good at it therefore he was in Dean's list

If one is asking for qualification to be working in the film industry or to start working in it, Aryan has a degree to show that he has been trained/educated to start working in the film industry

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

To claim untested Aryan is more qualified because he has a degree simply boggles the mind.😆

In terms of *education* Aryan is more qualified. What is so hard to understand? Claiming a few months of a pay-to-play acting class is better than a real 4-year degree is simply not going to be bought by anyone.

Hell, Ranveer has a 4-year degree in creative writing and he is also way more qualified in terms of education than Ranbir. You cannot fight against facts no matter what.

Now. I would like to see how much of those 4 years course transforms to a screen.

Baas Bina kuch kiye hi chaane ki jhad pe chadao usse

I love Shah. But this is a whole new level of absurdity.

Originally posted by: hotchoco

In terms of *education* Aryan is more qualified. What is so hard to understand? Claiming a few months of a pay-to-play acting class is better than a real 4-year degree is simply not going to be bought by anyone.

Hell, Ranveer has a 4-year degree in creative writing and he is also way more qualified in terms of education than Ranbir. You cannot fight against facts no matter what.