Aishwarya Rai takes a dig at Alia Bhatt. Is Ash jealous of Alia? - Page 18

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

My dear Hotchoco,

Going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you didn't actually mean to suggest an education is useless. Because I didn't say anything of the sort and to imply that I did would be an outright lie.

I'm simply going to assume you're very young or very naive. Or you'd know that degree doesn't have anything to do with success in the arts.

As I said before courses give you an understanding of the technicalities. Which makes it easier on you by not having to reinvent the wheel.

None of those courses will ever give you the talent that you're born with or the skill that results from hard work. Then there's that thing called marketing yourself. Finally, luck. None of these 4 factors have anything to do with a formal degree.

So yeah, Karthik Aryan, being an engineer, is more qualified to be in Bollywood than Aryan Khan at the moment. Because Karthik has proven himself.

Tabu, who quit college, is more qualified than Suhana at the moment because Tabu has actually proven herself.

Radhika Apte has degrees in Economics and Mathematics. She got her start in theater but doesn't have formal training in arts.

At the same time, there are people like Naseeruddin Shah and Irrfan Khan who had the talent and then got the training they needed at NSD. They also put in the hard work.

Let's take playwrights/scriptwriters. The one every darned writer goes to is Shakespeare. Didn't even complete school.

Jane Austen: didn't finish school

George RRM: Journalism

Quentin Tarantino: high school dropout

But James Patterson is an English major.

Point is not whether education is imp. It's imp even if you don't plan to write. Point is a COURSE, which is different from an education, is not a qualification for the arts. Because art is subjective. 2+2 not always + 4 in the arts. E may not be mc2.

I'm sure you'll continue arguing Aryan's degree somehow makes him qualified to be in Bollywood. I believe his daddy will have more sense than to believe that. Talent, hard work, marketing, luck = audience acceptance. Not a degree.

Originally posted by: hotchoco

Why are you getting jealous over someone who's 15 years younger than Ranbir? lmao

Why are you so upset that @justwandering said Aryan is more educated?? Facts like that aren't going to change.

Like I said, when you stan nepo-kids to begin with, this is a discussion you should not be getting involved in at all. Ranbir has had every benefit handed to him for no reason. Others will also get that kind of help so they should be last ones getting upset about it.

What? Why would I be jealous of a nepo kid who has no credibility at all?

My achievements are my own and I actually have some to talk about. Unlike Aryan whose claim to fame is being SRk s son

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

My dear Hotchoco,

Going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume that you didn't actually mean to suggest an education is useless. Because I didn't say anything of the sort and to imply that I did would be an outright lie.

I'm simply going to assume you're very young or very naive. Or you'd know that degree doesn't have anything to do with success in the arts.

As I said before courses give you an understanding of the technicalities. Which makes it easier on you by not having to reinvent the wheel.

None of those courses will ever give you the talent that you're born with or the skill that results from hard work. Then there's that thing called marketing yourself. Finally, luck. None of these 4 factors have anything to do with a formal degree.

So yeah, Karthik Aryan, being an engineer, is more qualified to be in Bollywood than Aryan Khan at the moment. Because Karthik has proven himself.

Tabu, who quit college, is more qualified than Suhana at the moment because Tabu has actually proven herself.

Radhika Apte has degrees in Economics and Mathematics. She got her start in theater but doesn't have formal training in arts.

At the same time, there are people like Naseeruddin Shah and Irrfan Khan who had the talent and then got the training they needed at NSD. They also put in the hard work.

Let's take playwrights/scriptwriters. The one every darned writer goes to is Shakespeare. Didn't even complete school.

Jane Austen: didn't finish school

George RRM: Journalism

Quentin Tarantino: high school dropout

But James Patterson is an English major.

Point is not whether education is imp. It's imp even if you don't plan to write. Point is a COURSE, which is different from an education, is not a qualification for the arts. Because art is subjective. 2+2 not always + 4 in the arts. E may not be mc2.

I'm sure you'll continue arguing Aryan's degree somehow makes him qualified to be in Bollywood. I believe his daddy will have more sense than to believe that. Talent, hard work, marketing, luck = audience acceptance. Not a degree.

At least you were smart enough to use all examples of old actors or outsiders as a comparison and not trying to hype Ranbir so I'll give you that much.

Aryan hasn't started his career yet so we will see how well he does but putting someone down *before* they've even started is just plain stupidity and jealousy which is what has been happening here consistently.

Even in terms of arts, having a degree and doing some good preparation first before sauntering in will always make you more prepared than someone who chose not to put any work into it, which is the case with almost all nepo-kids. Your examples are highly ironic and funny since those people are outsiders who clearly had to have something special within them to make it that far because nobody was there making the path easy for them.

This was specifically about someone trying to put down Aryan by hyping another nepo-kid for no reason who is almost 20 years older than him. When he's had the same easy opportunities dumped into his lap for such a long time, then we will see.

Originally posted by: M.Wheeler

What? Why would I be jealous of a nepo kid who has no credibility at all?

My achievements are my own and I actually have some to talk about. Unlike Aryan whose claim to fame is being SRk s son

Girl please. You stan Ranbir all day long and were just trying to prove he's more educated than Aryan. You really cannot argue about facts. Aryan shouldn't even be your concern when you also stan a nepo-kid who had zero credibility until he was pushed into the industry and helped again and again by loads of people.

Originally posted by: hotchoco

At least you were smart enough to use all examples of old actors or outsiders as a comparison and not trying to hype Ranbir so I'll give you that much.

Aryan hasn't started his career yet so we will see how well he does but putting someone down *before* they've even started is just plain stupidity and jealousy which is what has been happening here consistently.

Even in terms of arts, having a degree and doing some good preparation first before sauntering in will always make you more prepared than someone who chose not to put any work into it, which is the case with almost all nepo-kids. Your examples are highly ironic and funny since those people are outsiders who clearly had to have something special within them to make it that far because nobody was there making the path easy for them.

This was specifically about someone trying to put down Aryan by hyping another nepo-kid for no reason who is almost 20 years older than him. When he's had the same easy opportunities dumped into his lap for such a long time, then we will see.

That s not true at all. I was never trying to put down Aryan KHAN

Just stating facts. Ranbir actually has some credibility among the audience.Aryan has none

Of course opportunities are going to be presented to SRK s son in Gold platter

Originally posted by: hotchoco

At least you were smart enough to use all examples of old actors or outsiders as a comparison and not trying to hype Ranbir so I'll give you that much.

Aryan hasn't started his career yet so we will see how well he does but putting someone down *before* they've even started is just plain stupidity and jealousy which is what has been happening here consistently.

Even in terms of arts, having a degree and doing some good preparation first before sauntering in will always make you more prepared than someone who chose not to put any work into it, which is the case with almost all nepo-kids. Your examples are highly ironic and funny since those people are outsiders who clearly had to have something special within them to make it that far because nobody was there making the path easy for them.

This was specifically about someone trying to put down Aryan by hyping another nepo-kid for no reason who is almost 20 years older than him. When he's had the same easy opportunities dumped into his lap for such a long time, then we will see.

Old actors/outsiders? Tabu? She's not even close to an outsider and is very much active. Karthik - very much active.

Quentin Tarantino is probably THE director all directors want to work with. Very active and never went to college.

I have more for you.

Rajamouli is an engineer. Very much nepo and very much active

Mani ratnam has a degree in MANAGEMENT. Very much nepo and very much active.

Also, you're changing *qualification* to preparation😆. Nice try, but your argument thus far was Aryan was somehow more qualified to be in Bollywood because of his degree.

Yeah... more than Rajamouli whose degree has nothing to do with arts.😆

Originally posted by: hotchoco

Girl please. You stan Ranbir all day long and were just trying to prove he's more educated than Aryan. You really cannot argue about facts. Aryan shouldn't even be your concern when you also stan a nepo-kid who had zero credibility until he was pushed into the industry and helped again and again by loads of people.

Yes. I stan Ranbir because he is a good actor

A nepo kid with talent over someone who has zero credibility as of now.

I don't dislike Aryan. I love shah. But Aryan is yet to prove himself

Of course, Ranbir has more credibility as of now than Aryan. That s a fact

Originally posted by: M.Wheeler

That s not true at all. I was never trying to put down Aryan KHAN

Just stating facts. Ranbir actually has some credibility among the audience.Aryan has none

Of course opportunities are going to be presented to SRK s son in Gold platter

Again, Ranbir is almost 20 years older so he should have more credibility with the audience. Why are you saying it like it's something grand? 🤣

And of course he's going to be given all the opportunities that Ranbir also got. Unlike Ranbir, he at least worked harder for it and spend more time putting in the effort learning before taking the handouts.

Why do you sound so perturbed about the gold platter that Ranbir also got? It should be par for the course for you.

Ranbir fans should sit down.

I don't get fans who go this far.

Working hard to get the skills required is good. But a formal degree most of the times ain't anything in the arts.

I'm not even a fan of Ranbir. In fact, I heartily dislike him. But claiming Aryan's degree is better than Ranbir's few months at film school makes no sense.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Old actors/outsiders? Tabu? She's not even close to an outsider and is very much active. Karthik - very much active.

Quentin Tarantino is probably THE director all directors want to work with. Very active and never went to college.

I have more for you.

Rajamouli is an engineer. Very much nepo and very much active

Mani ratnam has a degree in MANAGEMENT. Very much nepo and very much active.

Also, you're changing *qualification* to preparation😆. Nice try, but your argument thus far was Aryan was somehow more qualified to be in Bollywood because of his degree.

Yeah... more than Rajamouli whose degree has nothing to do with arts.😆

Keep twisting in the wind in whatever direction. But education IS preparation. Putting in that extra effort is ALWAYS more credible than not doing so and just coasting on everything you can get without it. The desire to actually work towards something that you want is better than just lapping up whatever opportunities are thrown into your lap.

Some people being born gifted is a completely different thing. Most people aren't born with that kind of talent and that's when effort and education makes a much bigger difference.