Won't Let Anyone Take Away My Achievements : Gunjan On Movie Row - Page 2

Originally posted by: MannKasturi

Why people are denying that Gunjan Saxena did not face any problems in IAF? It was the 90s. Its 2020 still women face misogyny and patriarchy everywhere. There is no equality. Some men still think that they have muscles so they are superior. So yes Gunjan saxena showed the reality.

Exactly.

And not just indian forces, every single country has these same problems in their defence forces.

Its a documented phenomenon - from discrimination to even outright assault.

But in most of the countries the defence forces are considered beyond reproach and most of them are not even subject to civilian law so these things don't get publicity

Did it happen to gunjan or not is a question. But is it really beyond belief that these things were common??

Hell you'll find the same attitude in modern corporate India of 2020

Gunjan's and all other women pilots of 90s in the IAF achievements are very inspiring. They broke the glass ceiling so to say. However the portrayal in this movie does more disservice to her than anyone else.

As per the movie, she was sent on the rescue mission because all other pilots were already on missions and there wasn't any other option. I'm sure that wasn't the case in real life. She was a deserving officer of the IAF who was on duty to save the country. Not some person who was the last option and a hero by default as seen in the movie.

No one is taking away her achievements from her. All people are saying is please portray the achievements in a proper manner. No need to resort to cheap tactics for the same.

Originally posted by: anjs

Dude, just like you deserve your achievement, you shouldnt take away credit from others too.......if you and SriVidya started together, that automatically doesnt make you the first.........yeah if you think your name starts with G and hers with S, like we used to do in school, then that makes sense........otherwise you two are the first two pilot of IAF, no two views about it.........

if she says she was the first one to fly, then that makes you the second.......just like she cant take away your achievement, even you cant take away her achievement.........

from what i have read, all other women pilot says the IAF was fair and as respectful as possible............not have women toilets etc are all teething problem..... which i am sure got solved in due course, right ? or were you forced to use men's toilets continuously throughout your 10-15 years career ? if not then making a hue and cry about something not done intentionally, shows your fragile, victim card behavior.....at least to me it does.....

All your colleagues have spoken highly about you, but your this articles really makes me wonder now......

THIS

No one is taking your achievements away from you but if in the name of creative liberty, the image of IAF and a fellow woman who flew with you and in fact as per sources, flew in first into Kargil is completely omitted or sidelined then its a problem.

Now we get to know that the heroics in the climax didn't really happen.

Also, she cannot have a different experience as they both trained together.

check the part in red :

Days after Indian Air Force (IAF) raised objections over untrue portrayal of gender bias in the film Gunjan Saxena, The Kargil Girl, National Commission for Women (NCW) chief Rekha Sharma had urged the filmmakers to stop the screening of the Netflix feature film. The movie, based on the life of the ex-IAF officer who was a part of 1999 Kargil war, has been mired in controversy, ever since its release on the digital platform on Wednesday.

Replying to a news report highlighting the fact that the former IAF officer had equal opportunities to perform, Rekha Sharma tweeted, “If that is so, the filmmaker must apologise and discontinue the screening. Why showing something which is portraying our own forces in bad light especially when it’s not true.”

NCW chief urged ‘real’ Gunjan Saxena to clarify on the controversy

Earlier, on Thursday, the NCW head had demanded clarity from the former IAF pilot on the allegations of ‘gender discrimination’ that has been emphasised in the movie. She wrote, “Being from Army background I can never imagine defence officers behaving like goons. Officer or not, women are always getting their due respect in forces.”

Gunjan Saxena denies claims of ‘gender bias’

Saxena clarified that there was no impartiality observed at the Indian Air Force and equal opportunities were granted to her and other officers to perform. She added that the rising rate of number of women officers in the Indian Air Force is a testament to the egalitarian policies of the organisation. “Yes, as a commercial movie or as a work of fiction, the film has tried to capture my story. But what is beyond any doubt is that doors were opened and opportunities were given and that is also shown in the movie,” Saxena said, who cleared her entrance exam and joined the Indian Air Force in 1994.

IAF writes to filmmakers of the movie

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Earlier, the Indian Armed Force shot off a letter to Dharma Productions, Netflix, and the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC), protesting against the inaccurate representation of gender discrimination in the Air Forces as portrayed in the movie. The Air Force said that certain scenes and dialogues in the movie portrays it in a bad light. According to an official privy to the details, before the release of the movie, the Indian Air Force had requested Dharma Productions to modify or delete the objectionable scenes. However, no such action was taken by the Karan Johar-owned production house.

Originally posted by: tina59

THIS

No one is taking your achievements away from you but if in the name of creative liberty, the image of IAF and a fellow woman who flew with you and in fact as per sources, flew in first into Kargil is completely omitted or sidelined then its a problem.

Now we get to know that the heroics in the climax didn't really happen.

Also, she cannot have a different experience as they both trained together.

even if 20-30% of the story is not real.....then it doesnt become Gunjan Saxena's story........its a fiction and should be promoted like that........ they are really insulting our defence forces who risk their lives to protect us and this film makers too.......

I am not liking it.

Indirectly everyone is blaming gunjan

Feeling bad for her

This is what happens when Bollywood commercialization takes 'creative liberties' in a biopic.. A hero is now in controversies.. Something similar happened with Neerja too..Even Dangal if I remember.

There r at least two perspectives when u look at a situation.. One's right is another's wrong.. And from a neutral viewpoint both r right.

No one is denying Gunjan's achievements.. And her struggles.. She faced every situation with grit n determination.. As per her she never complained.. So highly likely that her colleagues and peers never realized that their actions or words could've affected her in any way. In that case is it fair to blame them right now? Is it ok to portray them in a derogatory manner to glorify Gunjan? She is a Hero irrespective of this movie and its interpretation.

people have to understand one person's experience might not be what others went through. It's fine, that's her experience and she had the guts to share it. Male egos were hurt and couldn't take it. I can see what she went through happening, it's not that hard to believe. Even the first lady who entered the army went through something similar. What's the point of lying if that's the truth?

Originally posted by: anjs

even if 20-30% of the story is not real.....then it doesnt become Gunjan Saxena's story........its a fiction and should be promoted like that........

First thing you see in the trailer of Gunjan Saxena.

Originally posted by: insideroutsider

First thing you see in the trailer of Gunjan Saxena.

Then is it a biopic?