Anurag Kashyap's Interview - Very interesting points about Sushant - Page 29

Originally posted by: zaroonkashaf

His career took a nose dive after he took on Salman. He was getting leading man roles before. One can see the difference in the work he got before Salman and after Salman. Saif and Kareena were the lead in Kurbaan. If I'm not wrong Saathiya had already released before that press conference of his. Apart from an Omkara(where Saif and Ajay got the more meaty roles) and the Apoorva Lakhia movie, what offers did he get that can be remotely compared to the kind of work he was getting before he took on Salman.

He declined Hum Tum & Bunty aur Bubli which Both made big turnover on Saif & Abhishek careers. He was considered bigger than them before these films and after these they were bigger than him.

He will always has him self to blame and no one else

Originally posted by: Sashay01

I think people are too eager to buy into conspiracy theories because it gives them closure and relief from the pain of losing such a bright, young star. But the truth is, even if there was a toxic industry atmosphere (and I think there was), legally speaking it will never be taken as abetment in a court of law because the law on this is very clear. Masand writing blind items or media giving you bad press does not count at as abetment, if anything, it will put the onus back on SSR's mental health and how he was sensitive about it so it hit him harder. I've said this before regarding the law- wont get into it again but you can DM me if you like for the intricacies of abetment and how it stands.

You say yourself that he was fragile- if someone else repeats this point about mental health, why is it seen as an attempt to "muddy" the waters? Being in poor mental health doesnt mean "craaaazy". I get what you're trying to say partly, I also dont like or approve of the insensitive remarks made by Rhea's PR without proof ("schiophrenia" etc) but everyone knew that he was struggling. Why does it have to be one big conspiracy if anyone points that out? Why cant we have a nuanced conversation about it?

Thanks about offer to DM, but I'm all right without.😊

Knowing his mental fragility, if they still did it (both of which were admitted to on tape!), yeah, friend, it is abetting, and it is a crime. Theory remains theory only if there were no admissions. Not the case here. The only defense for BW mafia is that they were too stupid and shallow to understand what might happen. Which actually might even be true 😔.

Besides, collusion to keep screens and dates away is something different. That's not abettment, but it is still against the law.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Besides, collusion to keep screens and dates away is something different. That's not abettment, but it is still against the law.

Nothing like that happened to Sushant.

Ajay's case was faltu also. He LOST in court. Theater owners are allowed to give more screens to a movie they prefer.

Originally posted by: anjs

this is what we call in marathi as 'shaaljodit le' means shawl me lapet kar dande maarna........ he just didnt use the words and later tried to clear his own name, saying but i have no malice towards him

I went to his Twitter timeline. He's attacking Kangana left-right-center, and then also pretending to be a true friend. Kitne double standards rakhega. 😒

KJo ki dosti se ghanta kuchhh fayada nahin hua. Use mili hai toh bas zillat.

Originally posted by: forza

He declined Hum Tum & Bunty aur Bubli which Both made big turnover on Saif & Abhishek careers. He was considered bigger than them before these films and after these they were bigger than him.

He will always has him self to blame and no one else

He releases movies all the time

NO one is watching 😆

Originally posted by: Logical-Indian

I looked up Sushant's MeToo blind in Pinkvilla. This is what it said:

"This young lady who will be making her film debut later this year seems to have her head firmly screwed to her shoulders. When her co-star, known for his errant ways, came on too strongly, she politely but firmly put him in his place. As word of this got around, another Bollywood producer, a corporate honcho, who also happens to be working with the said male star, immediately took precautionary action and put a formal anti-sexual harassment policy in his company. Better be safe than sorry. Well done, sir.”

Maybe this blind is completely false and made up. However, no where is it saying that he molested her or worst raped her??? 😕 Just saw an interview of Kangana saying that Sushant was labelled a "rapist". When did that happen?? 🤔..This is what I was talking about. Just spinning up conspiracy theories and making it look like there was a planned plot to "destroy" Sushant.

That's what I am saying, he was NEVER called a rapist! It's so horrible watching her say this and people believing her. This is just a big offense calling someone a rapist. They are doing this and the girl is getting unnecessary hate and blame.

But who is to say that this is not how the girl felt? Now obviously she is backing down but she also never complained of the things they are claiming now. Being overfriendly doesn't mean rape or molestation. She could have felt uncomfortable and voiced her feelings, whats the problem in that? It means she lied? Come on!

Actually after the Me-Too thing right , a lot of companies did the same thing. The only actors who were free to do what they wanted are the superstars like AK, AD and all that.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

That blinds are planted is something of an open secret. They've all admitted to peddling gossip. RK and KKK openly admitted to it on that show.

That they knew SSR was fragile is also something they admitted.

That the insiders have money and support systems is fact. That most outsiders do not is also fact.

This is no narrative being "peddled." However, there is a definite attempt to muddy the picture to say it was SSR's mind that was a problem, not their behavior.

Not only that, collusion to keep dates and theatres away is ILLEGAL. So is paying reviewers to write bad reviews. There have been enough open riffs between insiders for people to know undermining competition happens. Evidence shows up when someone bothers to collect it and present it in a court of law.

@Red - Yes agree. Gossip is peddled about EVERYONE. However, there is difference between someone saying "hey did you hear that this person is sleeping with that person" and the media picking that piece of gossip and publishing it as a blind And between someone deliberately calling a journalist and telling them to print a false piece of news to tarnish someone's image. The former is human nature while the latter is unethical. There is also a third possibility, there is a low news day and the journalist just makes up some shit and prints it because he has a deadline to meet and view and clicks to get. Do we know for sure which of this happened in SSRs case? We do not. Yet people have already jumped to a conclusion that it was sabotage.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Thanks about offer to DM, but I'm all right without.😊

Knowing his mental fragility, if they still did it (both of which were admitted to on tape!), yeah, friend, it is abetting, and it is a crime. Theory remains theory only if there were no admissions. Not the case here. The only defense for BW mafia is that they were too stupid and shallow to understand what might happen. Which actually might even be true 😔.

Besides, collusion to keep screens and dates away is something different. That's not abettment, but it is still against the law.

Nope. Still not abetment under Indian Law (Section 306). Sorry. There are no alternative facts that you can believe differently and I can believe differently, the law is the law. And who exactly admitted to his fragile mental state on tape- Aditya Chopra- the main person being implied and accused as the culprit here? When? I would like to see this admission , if you can link it please? The only person who admitted to any prior knowledge was Mukesh Bhatt which was dismissed by everyone again. So this theory is not making any sense. Are we now saying that the Bhatt camp- a production house with minimal influence compared to YRF/UTV/Dharma or Phantom even, started these blind items?

Please understand Im not trying to pick a fight with you, I am a huuuge fan myself and I understand this loss is incredibly painful and personal but in general the entire conversation has going into crazytown with murder theories fanned by Kangana's idiotic claims.

And yes, I agree that most people being accused here are too stupid to plan anything outside next Sunday's house party- let alone plan someone's death as has been strongly implied in other posts (not yours)

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

Nothing like that happened to Sushant.

Ajay's case was faltu also. He LOST in court. Theater owners are allowed to give more screens to a movie they prefer.

Not to collude. Not in India, not in U.S., not in most countries with relatively free markets.

Originally posted by: Logical-Indian

I don't think anyone is saying that blinds about him were ok or that they din't have a bearing on his mental state. I think what a lot of people disagree with is the narrative being built around this whole thing. Blinds about anybody are bad not just Sushant or outsiders. Just because someone else has not taken their life does not mean that blinds have not affected them.

However, the narrative currently being peddled is "blinds against Sushant were a deliberate attempt to sabotage him, his blinds were a smear campaign, KJO deliberately planted those blinds, ONLY outsiders have nasty blinds, blinds are a way to kick out outsiders, ALL blinds are planted by insiders, blinds ONLY impact outsiders, insiders don't have blinds about them, Sushant was banned by everyone, Sushant had no work, the Bollywood gang deliberately tried to destroy his career, he was tortured by the Bollywood people, KJO deliberately sabotaged Drive to destroy Sushant's career, etc etc""

The above narrative is what a lot of people are questioning because there is NO EVIDENCE to corroborate any of this. People are just building conspiracy theories out of thin air. Not only that, people are being called murderers and abused and threatened based on these conspiracy theories.

Sushant was a victim of the toxic work culture of this industry. You need a very thick skin, strong mind and strong support system to survive the circus that is Bollywood. Everyone in this industry goes though the same things at varying levels. Sushant unfortunately was unable to take it.

What we should be talking about is the toxic nature of blind items in general. Ethical media reporting , mental health awareness etc. Instead what is being talking about is murder theories and conspiracies. I think that is what people have a problem with.

I have seen people mention this even before his death that number of negative blind items on him were unusual. Also media and industry completely ignoring the success of Chhichhore was weird.