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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Tinah


tell me about it. I have been jobless and I have bills to pay. I look after my old parents and right now, I have used up almost all my savings. So I'm worried but I guess that doesn't compare to someone suffering from a mental illness and feeling trapped. Thats why there have been so many suicides since the lockdown started.


Sorry Tinah, that must be really difficult! And yes agreed, the number of suicides even in the TV industry and Hollywood as well have doubled. I hope we can all get through this. Our debates are getting shriller on TV, our social media is getting more hateful and the isolation must be making so many feel totally alone and their mental health shot!

- stay strong :) I'm sure your parents must be grateful to have you taking with them in this time

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche


Some media people are coming out saying they were asked to interview Shradda alone and no SSR


But telling us now I dont know what it accomplishes. Tell us then


Who asked them to only interview Shradha? The marketing team of the movie?

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Posted: 5 years ago

I will like to see him disclosing the names of ppl who ignored him after success I am sure there would be a number of such actors and he doesnt have guts to reveal them perhaps he is still begging them to work .

It's very easy to talk bs about someone when that person has gone

Loser Anurag kashyap

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Sashay01


Stupidity is not a defense, yes but lack of proof regarding intent is the key. I was just quoting your words when you said a lot of the so-called accused key players (like YRF/Dharma) were on tape saying that- again, I haven't seen anyone admitting that they knew about the extent of his mental health (which would prove that they caused bad press purposely to torture him beyond professional saborage- more than let's say continuous Metoo blinds on Akshay Kumar which were as relentless as SSR's or the current "Shahrukh Khan is an ISI agent narrative").


And yes, Investigating authorities SHOULD be allowed to do their jobs, in stead of the conversation being derailed and hijacked (in large numbers) by internet sleuths who see conpiracies and collusion by powerful, nameless mafia when there is none. If there is, the police will uncover it. You and me do cannot possibly feel for this more than SSR's own family and they are handling this with dignity, without making irresponsible claims like others are.


1. I didn't mention names when I said there were admissions. You brought up those names. Investigations involve finding those connections if any exist.


2. One of the jobs of investigators from time immemorial has been to ignore public convo and focus their efforts. Internet talk is internet talk. If cops cannot bring themselves to do their jobs despite it, then they should not be in said jobs.


3. Also, you seem to suggest public should shut up. No, this is a democracy.


Public pressure always has and will continue to play an important role in getting justice done.


A healthy society is one in which citizens play an active part.


4. You again state there is NO evidence when reality is you don't know unless you're one of the investigators. Evidence doesn't simply show up. When there circumstances pointing to problems, investigation is done to prove or refute the hypothesis suggested by circumstances. Or we would all be waiting to catch a robber or murderer or blackmailer redhanded rather than going to the police.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Maroonporsche


Some media people are coming out saying they were asked to interview Shradda alone and no SSR


But telling us now I dont know what it accomplishes. Tell us then

+1

Even that doesn't necessarily mean anything. If Shraddha's PR was the one arranging interviews, of course they would only offer her. If it was the film's PR, you have no idea about anyone's schedule. Only the PR people and the actors themselves would know. What if she was offered simply because Sushant was busy and his schedule was booked already. Maybe he had a day off or he was not feeling well. There could be a million reasons for why they didn't offer him and only offered Shraddha.

What does a film get out of deliberately keeping their leading man out of promotions? They hired him and paid him to play the hero. What is there to gain by hiding him during promotions on purpose? Nobody does that. The conspiracy theories are getting ridiculous.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Tinah


tell me about it. I have been jobless and I have bills to pay. I look after my old parents and right now, I have used up almost all my savings. So I'm worried but I guess that doesn't compare to someone suffering from a mental illness and feeling trapped. Thats why there have been so many suicides since the lockdown started.

Sorry about that. I hope things get better for you soon.

Lockdown has caused severe issues for a lot of people. It's really difficult to not have a job and get locked inside. You can't even see your friends and family. Loneliness is so hard. I couldn't even attend my aunt's funeral and had to watch it on zoom.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

Again, I'm just giving you the facts. Ajay filed a case and LOST so there was no collusion or any unlawful activity proven against YRF. Apart from that, you can keep on saying whatever you want out of your personal anger towards them.

It also has zilch, zero, zip, nada, nothing to do with Sushant.


Either you're not getting the point or you're being deliberately obtuse.


A toxic environment is a toxic environment. What was revealed (for the umpteenth time) by SSR's death is BW's toxicity.


It is still ILLEGAL whether it was done to SSR or not.


Moreover, planting blinds and spreading rumors etc can also be considered collusion if it so appears a group of people spread the same untrue accusations at the same time. Yeah, still illegal no matter how much some people would like it to be not so.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Tinah


tell me about it. I have been jobless and I have bills to pay. I look after my old parents and right now, I have used up almost all my savings. So I'm worried but I guess that doesn't compare to someone suffering from a mental illness and feeling trapped. Thats why there have been so many suicides since the lockdown started.

Wow I'm so sorry you're going through that, hang in there it will definitely get better. And you have every right to feel upset about it even if you think someone else has it worse, your pain is also valid
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


Either you're not getting the point or you're being deliberately obtuse.


A toxic environment is a toxic environment. What was revealed (for the umpteenth time) by SSR's death is BW's toxicity.


It is still ILLEGAL whether it was done to SSR or not.


Moreover, planting blinds and spreading rumors etc can also be considered collusion if it so appears a group of people spread the same untrue accusations at the same time. Yeah, still illegal no matter how much some people would like it to be not so.

It is not illegal just because you say so and want it to be.

How many times do you need to be told that Ajay's case was faltu and he lost? Nothing was proven against YRF.

Whatever theater collusion stuff he came up with was not accepted by the court. That also has no relation to Sushant anyway. He was not a producer or distributor.

Stop clubbing everything together to create the bechara narrative.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


1. I didn't mention names when I said there were admissions. You brought up those names. Investigations involve finding those connections if any exist.


2. One of the jobs of investigators from time immemorial has been to ignore public convo and focus their efforts. Internet talk is internet talk. If cops cannot bring themselves to do their jobs despite it, then they should not be in said jobs.


3. Also, you seem to suggest public should shut up. No, this is a democracy.


Public pressure always has and will continue to play an important role in getting justice done.


A healthy society is one on which citizens play an active part.


4. You again state there is NO evidence when reality is you don't know unless you're one of the investigators. Evidence doesn't simply show up. When there circumstances pointing to problems, investigation is done to prove or refute the hypothesis suggested by circumstances. Or we would all be waiting to catch a robber or murderer or blackmailer redhanded rather than going to the police.


I agree fully and freely that I have no facts and neither do you. I will go by whatever the police says. But the question is, what if the police suggests that there is no collusion and he died by suicide due to other reasons? Because remember the preliminary investigation has already been done and the police's conclusion was "no foul play discovered"- you can look it up.


And yet everyday,certain politicians and their professionals trolls like Kangana and Arnab claim there is some conspiracy being hidden from the public and the police is lying (without any proof) The way public sentiment is systematically being riled up, will people even accept the investigation results?

i honestly think we dont know enough but there is a fine line between facts and conspiracy theory. For now, I will go by the official account as and when the police releases it. I hope you do too.


I think people will need to accept that we will never fully gain closure, even if the case is closed because the loss was too sudden and shocking.


For the rest, be my guest. Would be the last person to interfere with the rule of law or people's democratic right to free speech- but the latter does not cover slanderous, baseless claims which even our journalists and leading actresses dont seem to remember- that's the bit that is problematic

It's the out of control conspiracies that annoy me and make me think people are being taken for a ride due to their own personal agendas and score settling.

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