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Posted: 7 years ago
#81
This topic almost reads like Tumblr in action. 😆 I almost expect to read paeans about how hot and beautiful fat girls are.

No sense of economics or business and unhelpful rants about how much Ranbir makes as opposed to Deepika when even Forbes states that they make the same or similar amount of money yearly. But don't let facts ever stop you.

Star power is about opening numbers, not how much a movie makes in total. Stars are there to give the initial boost and to provide a minimum guarantee. Otherwise, even a regional movie like Sairat can make 100 crores if it has crowd-pleasing content. That doesn't mean the lead actors of Sairat deserve the kind of money top stars get.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice.

LOL...The stardom of the Khans and Akshay, HR, Ajay...is not build from one movie...they have been here for 30 years...they are not newbies or a few movies old that their stardom will change every Friday...u guys are comparing BW industry with any other regualr industry...and this is the problem...I don't think anyone is saying that women shouldn't be paid the same as men if they deliver the same end product...its BW works in a different way...Salman Khan will bring in more money with less effort than Katrina would.


But would Salman khan bring in enough money to get paid 50 crores when Katrina gets paid what 5 crores? Does Salman bring 10 times the money?

Sure Salman should get paid more. But 50 crores? That's insane.

Salman still might be worth 30 cr. But Akshay, Ajay and Hrithik? On what ground? What have they delivered? Why are their flops excused? Hrithik got paid 50 cr for Mohen Jo Daro. What happened? What was the opening? What was the weekend?

Akshay still struggles to cross 120 cr. But gets paid 30 cr per film? 😆

What end product are these people supposedly delivering? 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: BiraSaysWhaddup


But would Salman khan bring in enough money to get paid 50 crores when Katrina gets paid what 5 crores? Does Salman bring 10 times the money?

Sure Salman should get paid more. But 50 crores? That's insane.

Salman still might be worth 30 cr. But Akshay, Ajay and Hrithik? On what ground? What have they delivered? Why are their flops excused? Hrithik got paid 50 cr for Mohen Jo Daro. What happened? What was the opening? What was the weekend?

Akshay still struggles to cross 120 cr. But gets paid 30 cr per film? 😆

What end product are these people supposedly delivering? 😆


Listen...I am not a CPA to be knowledgeable about the details...but as long as you agree that Salman brings more profit than a Katrina...and that is why he should be paid more...I am fine with that...See I am a working woman myself...and I would kick behinds of people who would dare to pay me less than my male counterpart...but my only point here is ...BW is not a regular industry...you cannot apply the same rules over here...as long as we get the reason behind the pay disparity...its good...See the top actresses of BW are all powerful independent women...and they are also smart and brainy to know why they are paid less...seriously why a Salman Khan is paid more than a Katrina Kaif is not rocket science...atleast the members of this forum who know...I am assuming a little better about BW than laymen should understand it...
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Posted: 7 years ago
#84
Most of the top male actors produce their own movies and take monetary risks and pay back distributors too when things go wrong and they face losses. They take on a lot more responsibility and risk. Their pay packets also come from back end deals so they are making money only if the movie itself is.

There might be a glitch once in a while where an actor makes too much money and others lose but the market fixes that with the next movie. Nobody is just given free money.

Actresses can do the same. Make your own big budget movies (why beg for someone to give Dhoom to you?) and finance them and take on those risks and pay it back if the movie flops. They are not ready to do so but want 30 crore checks like the top actors who've been in the business for 25 years.😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: blue-ice.


Listen...I am not a CPA to be knowledgeable about the details...but as long as you agree that Salman brings more profit than a Katrina...and that is why he should be paid more...I am fine with that...See I am a working woman myself...and I would kick behinds of people who would dare to pay me less than my male counterpart...but my only point here is ...BW is not a regular industry...you cannot apply the same rules over here...as long as we get the reason behind the pay disparity...its good...See the top actresses of BW are all powerful independent women...and they are also smart and brainy to know why they are paid less...seriously why a Salman Khan is paid more than a Katrina Kaif is not rocket science...atleast the members of this forum who know...I am assuming a little better about BW than laymen should understand it...


Who said apply the same rules? I said, actors are overpaid. Fone, I will give you Salman and Aamir. But Akshay, Ajay, Hrithik are all overpaid.
They don't bring as much return as they get paid for. Especially younger actors, who have the same age and experience as these heroines.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: anonymous39

This topic almost reads like Tumblr in action. 😆 I almost expect to read paeans about how hot and beautiful fat girls are.


No sense of economics or business and unhelpful rants about how much Ranbir makes as opposed to Deepika when even Forbes states that they make the same or similar amount of money yearly. But don't let facts ever stop you.

Star power is about opening numbers, not how much a movie makes in total. Stars are there to give the initial boost and to provide a minimum guarantee. Otherwise, even a regional movie like Sairat can make 100 crores if it has crowd-pleasing content. That doesn't mean the lead actors of Sairat deserve the kind of money top stars get.


Deepika makes the same money because she does far more endorsement deals. Anyhow we know how much we can trust 'Forbes'.

Where is the evidence though? Ranbir with Deepika in YJHD made 19 cr and Deepika with Ranveer made 16 cr in Ram Leela. Weekends were much closer. Where is the evidence of a star power difference?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Well if Forbes is not trustworthy, what is? You're ready to believe random gossip about Ranbir being paid 30-40 crores and Deepuji almost nothing based on what?

Ranbir also has endorsement deals. So does everyone.

If at the end of the year, the actresses like DP and PC are making similar amounts to people like Ranbir and Ranveer, there's nothing to complain about. The issue is that they're looking at the Khans and want that kind of money which is just hilarious. That too without taking on any risk and just for existing and acting in the movie.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: BiraSaysWhaddup

It is not that female stars are underpaid, it is that male stars are overpaid. Raazi made more money than Judwaa 2. Outside Ranbir, it was only Baaghi 2 three years later that made more money than Tanu Weds Manu 2. I think Pari made more money than October. Ranveer in an Aditya Chopra film or an ensemble Dil Dhadakne Do, gave the same opening as a Sonam and Kareena's VDW. Dishoom was in fact lesser.

Imran Khan got paid more than Katrina for MBKD. Ranbir got paid thrice as much for Tamasha. What was Shahid Kapoor paid so many crores for in Padmavat? I remember, ranveer was paid less but had a profit deal.

What money did Fan make? What money did JHMS? Remove Anushka, JHMS would have been a disaster.

We saw Salman Khan 'deliver' with Tubelight and Race .

Heroine, Mary Kom had comparable openings to Ranbir, Ranveer films.

Give heroines lead roles in similar big budget films that heroes get so easily. If they don't make the some money, we can talk about star power. A Piku cannot be compared to a Race 3 or a Tiger Zinda Hai.

Make Deepika the lead of Dhoom 4 or give Priyanka one of these KJo big budget films. We will know.

Umm you are little wrong here. Raazi did not make more money than judwaa. Pari did not make more than October. Dishoom opened more than ddd, befikre and veere di wedding.
But yeah I agree there should be more commercial films for women only then we can compare.
Also you are right male stars fees should reduce rather than increasing money for females. Deepika also said the same thing recently. Ranbir and hrithik do not deserve 30-40 crores , they increase the budget so much and are not able to get half the return.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have said this before. More than actresses being underpaid, it's the actors who are being overpaid IMO. And the writers get paid peanuts in comparison. If only Bollywood focused on paying their writers (and others involved behind the scenes) well instead of spending all the money on big stars and PR, we would have better films being made every year. There are cases where the contribution of the music album is as much as the lead pair if not more. Did Pritam get paid as much as RK DP for YJHD? Cos let's face it. Half the hype for that film was cos of the chartbuster music. Yet no one really talks about the remuneration of a Pritam or an ARR or an Abhijat Joshi or a Juhi in comparison to these actors. Why do these actors deserve more than 10 crores is beyond me. Not to sound petty but everyone in every profession works hard. I understand film industry works on demand and supply so pay anywhere between 10 lakhs to 10 crores to these actors and pay the rest of the money to the other hard working technicians. If the actor is involved in production of the film, they will obviously make more money which is alright. But in general please stop wasting so much money on all these actors. Dont pay female actors more. Please pay the male actors less 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: anonymous39

Well if Forbes is not trustworthy, what is? You're ready to believe random gossip about Ranbir being paid 30-40 crores and Deepuji almost nothing based on what?


Ranbir also has endorsement deals. So does everyone.

If at the end of the year, the actresses like DP and PC are making similar amounts to people like Ranbir and Ranveer, there's nothing to complain about. The issue is that they're looking at the Khans and want that kind of money which is just hilarious. That too without taking on any risk and just for existing and acting in the movie.

Well you have a good point here that in terms of earnings stated by Forbes there is not much difference. But deepika has more endorsement than ranbir. Also dp and pc did some Hollywood project thus they earned in dollars. That maybe the reason they earned more monay.
But yeah still maybe these articles of the actors getting 30-40 crores are released by their pr only to boost their male ego

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