Swara Bhaskar's open letter to Bhansali on Padmaavat

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tina

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Posted: 7 years ago

#41

Originally posted by: blue-ice.

IKR🥱...facts from history should be presented the way they are...without glorifying the wrong that happened then...there is a reason why Deepika came out looking like a vamp and PC walked away with all accolades despite being a supporting actress...anyways...SLB makes trash movies...there is no proper story ...no sense of right or wrong in his movies...just because they are rich in color and magnificent to look at doesn't mean they are good movies...BM was trash and from the major critics reviews Padmavat looks like one of the same kind...and if some people are getting mad because jauhar has been glorified...i can understand that.

Agree

That is exactly my problem with SLB

He thinks under the pretext of creative freedom, he can show whatever he wants esp his movies based on historical characters.

I remember, there were so many articles when a movie Raanjhana came out and the character of dhanush slits his wrists . The numerous articles and many here in the forum said it was influencing the audience in a wrong way.

Where r all those people and articles now , pretty sure they are defending what's being shown abt Jauhar and Padmavati

If his movie was purely fiction and taken from the poets version, he CLD have easily changed the ending without Jauhar.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#42

I'd be honest that after I finished watching the movie, I did tell my friend that I wish those women would have killed Khilji there and then since he was all alone. I particularly don't like the idea of women killing themselves coz their husband died but then he explained and I kinda bought the justification that it was a tale that Bhansali was telling and we might or might not agree with Rani Padmini did but that's what it is and this is the central plot of this story. Those who agreed with it enjoyed the movie and felt emotionally connected and those who didn't, were left high and dry on the emotional front.

A movie based on true events can't be altered much and especially the central plot from the times when women truly were all about their SO. Though, I do wish Bhansali had not chosen the subject coz honestly I hate to see a glorified suicide, no matter how apt it is,even at that time but he chose the tale, so there is no way Jauhar could have been avoided. What Swara is talking about is that a woman's virtue doesn't reside in her vagina, which is the belief since forever both IRL and BW movies. Legit concern but probably misplaced.

Recently 13 reasons why was also criticised for glorifying suicide as an easy escape, but again, it didn't show suicide as a heroic move like Padmavati. At the same time, the show was not set in old times like Padmavati to get that kind of liberty. We have proper legal channels now, there is no dictatorship, it is an organised world(mostly) we live in unlike the time the tale is set in.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#43

At the end of this article, all I got was that this woman sees vaginas in everything. 😆 I mean if a movie really reduced you to a vagina, then you have major issues/insecurities that need to be dealt with. 😆

There is no glorification of jauhar, the women voluntarily choose to sacrifice themselves than to subject themselves to sexual enslavement, if anything you feel a sense of hopelessness and despair, what's funny is that it's the feminists that are denying women their own agency, even if it means they choose suicide over a life of suffering, they are deprived and criticised of this choice. Wonder if this idiot would have the audacity to criticise Yazidi women held in captivity by ISIS, several hundreds of them having committed suicide.

It's one thing proclaiming what you would do in that situation, sitting safely in the comfort of your room, and quite another when you are actually enslaved and raped everyday. All of your ideological talking points go out of the window.

And did this idiot actually say that the context of the movie is 21st century India? f**king insane! 😆

Edited by Heisenberg17. - 7 years ago

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blue-ice.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#44

Originally posted by: -BebaakBegum-
I'd be honest that after I finished watching the movie, I did tell my friend that I wish those women would have killed Khilji there and then since he was all alone. I particularly don't like the idea of women killing themselves coz their husband died but then he explained and I kinda bought the justification that it was a tale that Bhansali was telling and we might or might not agree with Rani Padmini did but that's what it is and this is the central plot of this story. Those who agreed with it enjoyed the movie and felt emotionally connected and those who didn't, were left high and dry on the emotional front.
A movie based on true events can't be altered much and especially the central plot from the times when women truly were all about their SO. Though, I do wish Bhansali had not chosen the subject coz honestly I hate to see a glorified suicide, no matter how apt it is,even at that time but he chose the tale, so there is no way Jauhar could have been avoided. What Swara is talking about is that a woman's virtue doesn't reside in her vagina, which is the belief since forever both IRL and BW movies. Legit concern but probably misplaced.
Recently 13 reasons why was also criticised for glorifying suicide as an easy escape, but again, it didn't show suicide as a heroic move like Padmavati. At the same time, the show was not set in old times like Padmavati to get that kind of liberty. We have proper legal channels now, there is no dictatorship, it is an organised world(mostly) we live in unlike the time the tale is set in.

@ red...sweet Jesus...those women didn't do Jauhar because their husband died...they did jauhar to save themselves from becoming sex slaves of Khilji and his men...I understand that SLB is not a good director and what he wants to show comes out as something else...but Rani Padmini did not die because her husband died..it was not Sati..it was Jauhar..

@ Blue...Swara is an idiot...it is not about the virtue of a women residing in her vagina...its about being raped by multiple men everyday...according to Swara ji...a prostitutes virtue doesn't reside in her vagina...so its OK for her to get raped??...Virtue cast aside...no women wants people to touch her without her permission...much less rape her...those women chose death over rape...why is it so hard to understand...and SLB should seriously stop making movies on serious matters and make cartoons instead.🥱

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Posted: 7 years ago

#45

No wonder this idiot is from JNU.
I always knew all these left leaning puesdo intellectual duffers would have problem with Padmavat, and here we go , it is all true.

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Posted: 7 years ago

#46

I keep saying she only did this to get some attention

It's not even well written

Get her hooked on phonics 😆 😆

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anu023

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Posted: 7 years ago

#47

Why are these libtards obsessed with vagina? A woman is much.more than vagina and uterus.

I think their skull is empty with no.brain. They bark freedom of expression so why can't they see a woman not.willing to become.sex slave and chosing death instead as her freedom of expression. With letters like these their hypocrisy keeps.getting exposed.

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rainbow2017

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Posted: 7 years ago

#48

A lot of reviewers (mostly the left-leaning types) have also objected strongly to the fact that Padmavati asks for her husband's permission to commit Jauhar and have termed it as regressive along with the very act of Jauhar itself.

I am not sure, if they really understood the scene and the history behind Jauhar.

Jauhar was considered to be the 'right' of every Rajput woman, the right to die of her own free will by jumping into fire (because fire is considered the purest element in Hindu religion) rather than fall into the enemies hands. As per historical records, it was not forced upon the women, it was always their choice. And that is obvious...Jauhar was committed when all the men went off to war, and their death was imminent. So if the women chose, then they could have lived on after compromising with the enemies, since all their men were already dead. But they choose to exercise their right of death over dishonor. If a woman is making a choice of her own free will, even if it is the choice of death, how can one call it regressive?

And as I saw it, Padmavati takes her husband's permission for Jauhar because she loves him dearly and knows that he won't return back to her. It had nothing to do with patriarchy or anything! People are reading too much into it! Bhansali's movie are not that deep!

And once again, the Jauhar scene was not glorified. It was very dramatic, like all of SLB's climax scenes are...the one in Devdas, where Paro is running like a maniac with her pallu floating in the air, or the one in Ramleela and BM. Nothing new here. Bhansali is like an Opera conductor, who likes to start and end his movies on a high note. Plus, how does one show something like Jauhar in a 'progressive' manner? Kindly explain?

Jahuar is a historically documented event, it is not a figment of anyone imagination. So just because we are in the 21st century does not mean, that what happened in the past should be modified or completely wiped out, only because they don't match the sensibilities of today.

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littlesmile

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Posted: 7 years ago

#49

Well yes agreed there is a life after rape and there are many inspiring women who are rape survivors.But thing is it is mostly an unexpected incident happened in their life. If they knew they would be raped by going to some place would they go there? So padmavathi knew she would be made a sex salve when they heard they lost the battle.usko aa bail mujhe maar Karna chahiye kya When she knew her fate she had done Jauhar which is the only option left for her.