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Posted: 18 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: mini2390

SRK's first movie that released was Deewana and that was a hit, all three of the khans had their first films as hits... SRK's deewana, salman's maine pyar kiya, and amir's qayamat se qayamat tak were all hits and they were their debut films.

amir's first movie was holi or something which was not a hit but lets just pretend that his first movies was qayamat se qayamat tak and it was a hit..so then their debut films might have been hit and i think shahrukh n salman won the best debut award but no one won the best actor award the same year and hrithik won the best debut award and the best actor award the same year which is completely different. it was hrithik's first film so he didnt have a lot of expereince and he got the best actor award when there were still actors like shahrukh, salman and aamir. he became the best actor of the year with his first solo movie so i wonder what else he is gonna do in the future. hrithik even won the best actor award for koi..mil gaya against shahrukh's kal ho na ho whereas shahrukh has been in the industry for a long time n hrithik has not been here for half as long as shahrukh.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mini2390

SRK's first movie that released was Deewana and that was a hit, all three of the khans had their first films as hits... SRK's deewana, salman's maine pyar kiya, and amir's qayamat se qayamat tak were all hits and they were their debut films.

Correction(s): As far as I know, SRK's debut film was Raju Ban Gaya Gentlemen not Deewana. I have no idea whether or not RBGG was a hit.

Aamir's debut was Holi (which wasn't a hit) but he was a child artist in Yaadon Ki Baarsaat...so Idk if you'd consider that his debut.

Salman's debut was Biwi ho to aisi (1988) not Maine Pyar Kiya(1989). And Biwi Ho To Aisi was on Rekha's shoulders not Salman's! So you can't really consider that a hit to his forte.

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: .:Aphrodite:.

SRK's first movie was Dil Aashna Hai which was a flop.. no one even knows what it is

and those disgusting people commenting about Hrithik's extra thumb on this topic, that is the lowest anyone can go ... it is one thing arguing about an actor and another thing commenting about a physical condition someone had NO control over..

what if YOUR OWN kid is born with an extra thumb?? WOULD YOU HATE THE KID TOO?

omg i cant believe someone would actually stoop that low to use Hrithik's extra thumb and make fun of it....Hrithik could have gotten rid of it but he didnt cauz he considered it to be lucky and its a unique gift that god gave him and which may be the reason why he is soo lucky...and I agree as far as i know none of the Khan's debut films were big hits and IF they were even hits they come no where close to the dhamaka that Kaho Na Pyar Hai made....that movie swept all the awards that year...can any Khan film beat that?? guess not and like i said b4 give Hrithik a little more time and after that only he will rule bollywood

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: dazzlingdesi

omg i cant believe someone would actually stoop that low to use Hrithik's extra thumb and make fun of it....Hrithik could have gotten rid of it but he didnt cauz he considered it to be lucky and its a unique gift that god gave him and which may be the reason why he is soo lucky...and I agree as far as i know none of the Khan's debut films were big hits and IF they were even hits they come no where close to the dhamaka that Kaho Na Pyar Hai made....that movie swept all the awards that year...can any Khan film beat that?? guess not and like i said b4 give Hrithik a little more time and after that only he will rule bollywood

true that. So what if he has an extra thumb? Leave that out of the discussion b/c we're discussing actiing here.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Evee

I dont think Aamir is a superstar. He is a great actor but he dosent create the kind of hysteria SRK and salman create. I dont think he has a huge fan following as the kind of movies he does dont really connect with masses.

Lagaan was a smashit,and it was a hit in every part of India...DCH was mainly targetted at the multiplex audience,it did well there..Mangal Pandey recovered its money,RDB was a superhit in the multiplexes and a hit in the small towns,Fanaa garnered a large audience emcompassing the classes and masses....Agreed Aamir doesnt generate hysteria,nor boasts of a blind fan following(a la SRK),but he STILL can lure the crowds to the marquee even with unconventional offbeat themes(recently RDB to cite..Aamir was the ONLY star)

I would say its rather better to give consistent hits,superhits and blockbusters(a la SRK and Aamir),rather than have just 4 blockbusters to one's credit with all other movies flopping(a la Hrithik )....I reckon one should give Hrithik some more time to prove his commercial viability(none of the Dhoom movies are the acid test,nor the krrish films...the true acid test for Hrithik is Jodha Akbar and KT,if these movies work,then that iota of skepticism that I harbour would vanish )...Hrithik's next film is the sequel to Krrish,which is a sureshot hit...I would christen him as the superstarif he espouses offbeat cinema and prove his viability with dicey movies too, not just with the superhero series or a Dhoom series!


Originally posted by: Evee

I guess my point is that if salman and amir are saving grace of Bollywood, then Bollywood can certainly do without them. If KJ and YRF start hiring abhi in all their big budget movies.. abhi will become a star and srk no where to be seen.

Bottomline..The real superstars are YRF and KJ.....😆

Actually,after AB,the country hasnt seen a superstar of his echelon and stature,SRK isnt as Big as AB was in his heydays,and Hrithik and Abhi arent as big as SRK(the fact that a shoddy and chintzy Don was a hit ONLY thanks to SRK's presence in the movie corroborates my POV)....I reckon we must give both Hrithik and Abhi some more time,because both these actors YET have to deliver a cult film like DDLJ or Sholay,they surely havent yet reached the apotheosis of a superstar!...Hrithik and ABhi surely dont become superstars with just 4 and 6 hits(mostly multistarrers) respectively,AB at his zenith used to deliver hit after hit every year at regular clockwork,SRK too has many blockbusters to his credit....AB's very presence used to redeem mediocre films and render them eventually to be blockbusters,something which Hrithik and Abhishek cant guarantee (their very presence doesnt make a difference,coz in that case,movies like Lakshya and Umrao Jaan should have been superhits)..The next actor coming close to AB when it comes to guaranteeing hits just by the mere presence in a movie is SRK,lets make no bones about that....Hrithik surely can reach there,or even surpass SRK and join AB in his league IF he can promise hits with unconventional subjects and not just confine himself to superhero and dhoom flicks!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: thakor88

FLOP MOVIES OF AAMIR

Holi
Raakh
Jawani Zindabad
Love Love Love
Deewana Mujh Sa Nahin
Awwal Number
Tum Mere Ho
Sahebzaade
Daulat Ki Jung
Isi Ka Naam Zindagi
Time Machine
Afsana Pyar Ka
Parampara
Aatank Hi Aatank
Earth
Mela
The Rising: Ballad of Mangal Pandey

Half Of His Movies Were Flops

SRK MOVIES THAT WERE FLOPS

Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman
Maya
Chamatkar
Dil Aashna Hai
King Uncle
Anjaam
Zamaana Deewana
Oh Darling Yeh Hai India
Guddu
English Babu Desi Mem
Chaahat
Army
Dushman Duniya Ka
Gudgudee
Baadshah
Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani
Hey Ram
Gaja Gamini
Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam
Shakti: The Power
Yeh Lamhe Judaai Ke
Silsiilay
Paheli


Salmans Flops

Biwi Ho To Aisi
Kurbaan
Sanam Bewafa
Patthar Ke Phool
Baaghi
Love
Suryavanshi
Ek Ladka Ek Ladki
Chandra Mukhi
Dil Tera Aashiq
Jaagruti
Nishchaiy
Chandra Mukhi
Chaand Kaa Tukdaa
Sangdil Sanam
Veergati
Khamoshi: The Musical
Majhdhaar
Dushman Duniya Ka
Dus
Auzaa
Sar Utha Ke Jiyo
Bandhan
Jaanam Samjha Karo
Hello Brother
Dulhan Hum Le Jayenge
Kahin Pyaar Na Ho Jaaye
Dhaai Akshar Prem Ke
Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega...
Tumko Na Bhool Paayenge
Yeh Hai Jalwa
Love at Times Square
Stumped
Dil Ne Jise Apna Kaha
Lucky: No Time for Love
Kyon Ki
Saawan: The Love Season
Shaadi Karke Phas Gaya Yaar


Is there more to come?

Rajesh Khanna was an overnight sensation,for 5 years,he reigned,then he fizzled away....AB had 13 flops before he delivered his first hit,he is the biggest superstar India has ever had(and mostly,the biggest superstar india would ever have)...SO how does the first movie being a blockbuster determine the future of an actor in the long run!!

Credit where its due,The 3 Khans ruled the marquee all throughout the 90's,and continue to sustain their hold even in the new millenium(maybe barring Salman)..Hrithik is just 7 years old to filmdom,lets see whether he can sustain the success he has tasted with Dhoom and Krrish for the coming 14 years..Dont get me wrong,I totally admire Hrithik,and I even consider him to be the only actor as of date who has the potential to make it as big as Big B,but all I'm saying is,its too early to heap superstardom on him,he needs to prove himself more in the coming years in all genres and not just superhero and action flicks....Would love to watch Duggu in an out an out comic role,go the whole hog with a negative role(Saif a la omkara),do some offbeat cinema ripped off all glamour,play the role of a psycho..There's so much to do!

Edited by Buffie - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: thakor88

FLOP MOVIES OF AAMIR

Holi
Raakh
Jawani Zindabad
Love Love Love
Deewana Mujh Sa Nahin
Awwal Number
Tum Mere Ho
Sahebzaade
Daulat Ki Jung
Isi Ka Naam Zindagi
Time Machine
Afsana Pyar Ka
Parampara
Aatank Hi Aatank
Earth
Mela
The Rising: Ballad of Mangal Pandey

Half Of His Movies Were Flops

SRK MOVIES THAT WERE FLOPS

Raju Ban Gaya Gentleman
Maya
Chamatkar
Dil Aashna Hai
King Uncle
Anjaam
Zamaana Deewana
Oh Darling Yeh Hai India
Guddu
English Babu Desi Mem
Chaahat
Army
Dushman Duniya Ka
Gudgudee
Baadshah
Phir Bhi Dil Hai Hindustani
Hey Ram
Gaja Gamini
Hum Tumhare Hain Sanam
Shakti: The Power
Yeh Lamhe Judaai Ke
Silsiilay
Paheli


Salmans Flops

Biwi Ho To Aisi
Kurbaan
Sanam Bewafa
Patthar Ke Phool
Baaghi
Love
Suryavanshi
Ek Ladka Ek Ladki
Chandra Mukhi
Dil Tera Aashiq
Jaagruti
Nishchaiy
Chandra Mukhi
Chaand Kaa Tukdaa
Sangdil Sanam
Veergati
Khamoshi: The Musical
Majhdhaar
Dushman Duniya Ka
Dus
Auzaa
Sar Utha Ke Jiyo
Bandhan
Jaanam Samjha Karo
Hello Brother
Dulhan Hum Le Jayenge
Kahin Pyaar Na Ho Jaaye
Dhaai Akshar Prem Ke
Har Dil Jo Pyar Karega...
Tumko Na Bhool Paayenge
Yeh Hai Jalwa
Love at Times Square
Stumped
Dil Ne Jise Apna Kaha
Lucky: No Time for Love
Kyon Ki
Saawan: The Love Season
Shaadi Karke Phas Gaya Yaar


Is there more to come?

OMGGGGGGG u hve plenty of time to write this long list ...how nice to say u care n give too much attentions to these 3 khans ..Did u get time for ur fav's?..😆😆..be quick or others will snatch them

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Posted: 18 years ago
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well i agree all actors mentioned are great and hrithik has proven himself but to say that the khans are below is wrong since talking about this years hits...kank made the most money...and rdb was sent to the oscars...aamir gave rdb and fanaa, srk - kank and don...and hrithik krrish and dhoom....no other actor is up to that level...hrithik has gotten there but to say he is above the khans is wrong....as for the list of flops....its simple the more movies done the more flops...and flops cannot be spoken of because other than dhoom 2 every hrithik movie that wasnt made by his father has flopped....facts are straight and simple...k3g was a hit but can the credit be given to hrithik?.....
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: thakor88

i think your misunderstood. go to imbd 😡 and btw none of them are my favs🤢

u r absolutely rite ..i know that the 3 khans r not ur fav's ...ud dint understand my message ... when caring so much with the khan did u have enough time for ur own fav's meaning the ones u like more ..anyway thnks for the reply

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: thakor88

yup. my favs abhi,hrithik yes i did

But not seen ur caring for them so much thn the khans ...😆

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