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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: breathing_irony

well the only person who looks good enuf to dethrone the khans is Hrithik.....he hasn't got there yet thgh----but he's the only one I'd put my bets on to get to the top spot....

Ofcourse, overcoming some1 like Aamir and even Saif for tht matter is a lot harder coz they both r very versatile. Overcoming SRK's star power is not an easy task....in the country I live, SRK equals indian cinema.
Salman is not doing too well nowadays so no comment on him!

Abhi is another candidate.....but he's yet to deliver a solo hit.....as for John----as much as I LOVE LVOE LOVE john I don't think he can really get to the point where he can create the same aura tht a SRK, Aamir Saif or sallu create!

👏👏👏...Most sensible post I've read on this very thread(which has otherwise become a bash fest)

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: goldenword

Okay by the same token the solo credit of K3G's success does not go to SRK also. Can I also ask a converse question? What was Rakesh Roshan's level as a director before Kaho Na Pyaar Hai. I don't think that he was even considered a top league director at that point. He had a bunch of flops before Kaho Na Pyar Hai. Koyla, Khoon Bhari Maang, Khudgarz, Khel, Kala bazaar (okay granted that Karan Arjun was a super hit). Overall see his inconsistent record as a director. Ever since casting Hritk in Kaho Na Pyaar hai, every movie of his has been a Super Hit to a Block Buster. The credit definitely does go to Hritk Roshan as much as to Rakesh Roshan for contributing to the success of these films. Hritik was to Rakesh Roshan what SRK became to Yash Chopra post DDLJ. Prior to DDLJ, YRF was going thorugh a lean phase with quiet a few films flopping- Lamhe, Vijay, Mashaal etc.

I would call all these three movies of Hritik solo hits which he has delivered regardless of which banner. I have yet to see any contemporary actor of Hritiks' generation even deliver one solo super hit- hit leave alone a blockbuster. Dhoom may be a franchise again but D1 was just a hit. Look at the storm that Hritik created with D2. It is on the verge of becoming an All time Blockbuster. He experimented with a theme like Laskhya, and although the film was bad, Hritik's performance won him a lot of critcal acclaim and honours. I would not even mention Hritik in the same breadth as Abhishek (yet to deliver a solo), or Shahid Kapoor, and other contemporary actors. I am absolutely sure that Jodha Akbar will do well because I am absoulutly sure that Hritik the actor will give it his best shot.

Koyla was a hit movie and nearly all Rakesh directed films are hit except for the ones where Hirithik was really young

Please guys, stop this Hirithik is a dad-made star or SRK is chopra/karan made star.

The Khans are ruling bollywood just like Kapoors did in 70s,80s.

When the Khans are gone, someone else will rule Bollywood.

Are Hirithik,John, Abhishek enough to dethrone the Khans.

Probably No, becuase, hirithik will always remain the "Dad-Made star", John "famous just becuase of his body and sex Appeal" and Abhishek "oh well, he is Ab's son".

They can dethron the Khans ONLY when they are free from such labels.

In my opinion, NO one can ever replace Khans, like no one can ever replace Dilip Kumar, Amitabh Bachan.

Acting, couts as well. Now thats upto the audience to decide who acts well, Salman or John, Abhi or Amir, Hirithik or SRK. And can i say that most of the times, audiences confuse acting with who is thier favourite. If someone likes SRK they would say Hirithik was rubbish in that movie etc. If someone likes Hirithik they would say SRK was rubbish in that movie, irrespective of what both have done in their films, may be both were great.

Edited by scorpion134 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpion134

Probably No, becuase, hirithik will always remain the "Dad-Made star",

They can dethron the Khans ONLY when they are free from such labels.

In my opinion, NO one can ever replace Khans, like no one can ever replace Dilip Kumar, Amitabh Bachan.

I think it is a rather presumptuous statement to make that Hritik will always reamain a dad made star. We have a D2 to prove that wrong and wait for Jodha Akbar. If you are going purely by history then all the Khans singulalry and put together have more strings of flops than Hritik, Abhshek and John singularly or put together.

Obviously it is purely your opnion that NOBODY can ever replace the Khans, a sentiment and opinin not shared by all. In my view the more the better - because competition instigates better perforamnce and better quality of cinema rather than relegating numero uno position to an actor and star for donkeys years despite some of their mediocre performances. Hritk is Numero Uno for the year 2006 along with perhaps Aamir but even I will not be so dog headed to assume and presume that he will continue to command that numero uno position forever. Nobody is unassailable at the end of the day. Cinema like any other proffession will always welcome new talent and breed good actors.

And by the way your stat about Koyla is wrong. It is a FLOP. If u go thru Box office India and run through their records it does not even feature as an average. For proof you can go through the official SRK website (pro - SRK) which gives the track record of all fims. Koyla features as a FLOP.

http://www.shahrukhkhan.org/index.php?option=com_content& ; ; ;task=view&id=216&Itemid=86

Edited by goldenword - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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2006 was Hrithik's year and also Aamir's year---coz he had to big hits in both RDB and Fanaa. And RDB is going as India's Oscar's entry so tht adds to Aamir's success.....

Hrithik may have had a hit with d-2....but d-2 is a popcorn flick----it's not a power-packed film or an all time gr8....it's just a money-spinner. If Hrithik can produce a KMG or LRMB or Lagaan then yes,he'd be the top actor!

As for being a dad-made-star....D-2 is slated to be Hrithik's biggest hit in terms of box-office success and RR had nothing to do wit the movie! And personally, I think Hrithik's best performance was in Fiza....always felt he shd've won best actor for Fiza rthr thn KNPH.....and Fiza was not directed by RR....same with LAkshya---he's won awards for LAkshya and tht was directed by Farhan....

Hrithik has the potential coz he's WILLING to experiment and he's very hard-working....and to top it he's SUPER HOT! 😳

And those ppl makin fun of Hrithik's thumb-----GET A LIFE!He's regarded as the sexiest man in Ind post d-2---who cares wht his thumb is lik....it doesnt make him a less better actor!

Edited by breathing_irony - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Guys and gals, we may argue forver on this topic but one thing is clear for the Year 2006. Hritik Roshan is winning the BEST ACTOR AWARD in all Award functions. 2006 belongs to Duggu, not even Aamir so I wouldn't even care to put Aamir with Hritik in the No. 1 slot. First teh Kolkatta Award, then GIFA and then Rediff has today come out with its nominations clearly putting Hritik ahead of all. Come 2007, it may be a different story altogether with a lot of surprises, but the award for Best Actor in 2006 goes to Junior Roshan. Debate as you may endlessly on the SUPREMEACY AND LEGACY OF THE KHANS- there is no point. Hritik has kicked everyone's a***s 😆
Edited by RajanS123 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Wow 11 pages!... I personally think that we've all grown up watching these actors, so we're so sensitive about their "era" ending-- some clearly more than others. Their passing is a part of growing up-- it may be difficult, but it's gonna happen one day. We should appreciate new talent, not argue over fav's. 😉
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Posted: 18 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: scorpion134

Koyla was a hit movie and nearly all Rakesh directed films are hit except for the ones where Hirithik was really young

Please guys, stop this Hirithik is a dad-made star or SRK is chopra/karan made star.

The Khans are ruling bollywood just like Kapoors did in 70s,80s.

When the Khans are gone, someone else will rule Bollywood.

Are Hirithik,John, Abhishek enough to dethrone the Khans.

Probably No, becuase, hirithik will always remain the "Dad-Made star", John "famous just becuase of his body and sex Appeal" and Abhishek "oh well, he is Ab's son".

They can dethron the Khans ONLY when they are free from such labels.

In my opinion, NO one can ever replace Khans, like no one can ever replace Dilip Kumar, Amitabh Bachan.

Acting, couts as well. Now thats upto the audience to decide who acts well, Salman or John, Abhi or Amir, Hirithik or SRK. And can i say that most of the times, audiences confuse acting with who is thier favourite. If someone likes SRK they would say Hirithik was rubbish in that movie etc. If someone likes Hirithik they would say SRK was rubbish in that movie, irrespective of what both have done in their films, may be both were great.

i agree with u ...the stubborn n low minded people didnt realise it they just go bashing others fav's, making all sorts of nonsense comments ...can nowadys actors can replace Raj Kapoor, Dilip n Big b whom u hve already mentionned ...so how is't possible for hrithik , abhi or john to replace the Khans ...Just think for 18-19 yrs they have ruled the bollywood n still now r rocking without any doubts

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Posted: 18 years ago
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how can u compare the khans and the new gen.... not the same gen ok..... but i still think the khans rocked for a bit tooo long and it will take time before the craze goes away1

but plssss hrithik is not eqaul to toma nd brad.....no way plssssssssssssssssssssssss..... and krish is not better than superman, spiderman and batman. i found krish quite silly :)
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Posted: 18 years ago
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how many of u would like to see kaho na piyar hai or bunty aur bubly aur krish or any of john's movie a million times?????? not many! and how many times have we watched main ne piyar kiya, hum apke hain ko, hum dil de chuke, dil, qayamat se qayamat tak, lagaan, dil chahta hai, ddlj, dil to pagal hai, kuch kuch hota hai, ???????? most of us rememeber the dialouges!
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: nermic

how many of u would like to see kaho na piyar hai or bunty aur bubly aur krish or any of john's movie a million times?????? not many! and how many times have we watched main ne piyar kiya, hum apke hain ko, hum dil de chuke, dil, qayamat se qayamat tak, lagaan, dil chahta hai, ddlj, dil to pagal hai, kuch kuch hota hai, ???????? most of us rememeber the dialouges!

All the Khans are in their 40's and look jaded and old. Speaking of repeat value, most of my friends and me have seen KNPH 6 times in the theatre, Koi Mil Gaya 5 times and perhaps 20 times on TV and Krissh already 3 times in the theatre. I have never cared for Shahrukh Khan's movies that much. Even his DDLJ I have ONLY watched on video in the States. Huma Aapke Hain Kaun I went to watch in a theatre in New York when it was released, but believe me it was only for Madhuri. I have watched Didi Tera Dewar Diwana on video some 25 times. Madhuri is stunning.😳. I Hated Salamn in Huma Aapke Hain Kaun with his GROSS OVERACTING. Dil Chahata hai was okay but not just for Aamir. It was a multistaerer. I just watched it once. I have wacthed Amitabh Bachchcan's each movie of the 1970s and 1980s minimum 30 times. SHolay a hundred times. So u want more records. Bollywood is absolutely fine without these Khans. They have no repeat value. Mr. hhhhuklu should be the first to take retirement follwoed by Mr. casanova taklu. Hahahaha😆

Edited by manav1234 - 18 years ago

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