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Posted: 7 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan



True to certain extent, but Varun, Alia and maybe even Sid were not just "even an entry"...in addition to entry's- they have had projects CREATED AND MANUFACTERED for them, or they have had KJO lobby projects for them - and to a high extent! 98% of their work is Dharma-related.

Yes lots of star kids debuted and failed, but I have never seen such an aggressive overbearing support for any starkid. Even Yash Chopra was lazy when it came to his own son Uday, Ekta helped Tushar too but it didn't go anywhere. Also Varun/Sid are obviously better looking that Uday/Tushar so that helps too!

Again I am not saying they are nothing...they are doing very well however...they do have an aggressive and strong support system...and not all star kids have had that kind of STRONG support. All star kids get an entry...but the background support is a whole other ballgame.


The only one whom KJo is over supporting and promoting is Alia, she & Sid have gotten maximum projects under Dharma banner.

The way Karan keeps on taking Alia in the movies his banner makes me think does he not have any other actresses who will work with his banner.

Background support can take you a bit further but does it guarantee that the Audience will accept their movies, a big fat NO.

I do not think many people care about who is a star kid & not, they only care if they can entertain them. Which obviously Varun does or else his movies with any banner would not be a success.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#92
Alia is the most privileged star kid ever. I am sure even star kids must be jealous of the backing she gets from Dharma. Out of the 9 films she has done , 8 were under Dharma. Of the upcoming films of hers , out of 4 again 3 are Dharma. KJO has gone to unprecedented length to back her career. . I feel bad for the heroines of her league. Never saw Kareena, Kajol etc get this kinda backing.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#93
IMHO
Opportunity is the result of nepotism.
Success is the result of talent and luck.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

^^LOL. Ya, no doubt she is a product of nepotism & all that. But she definitely is talented & definitely works very hard. I had rather watch 10 Aloo/RKs than 1 Sid or Jacqui. People love jumping on the nepotism debate but I don't care about where someone comes from, if the work is good. That works both ways.


Bingo

Sid and Varun debuted in the same movie.Sid was the main hero had more screen space and a more important role.Today who is more successful ,Varun or Sid. Varun and its because Varun is more talented.Nothing to do with one being insider or outsider.

Sonam and Deepika debuted together. Today who is more successful Deepika or Sonam. Deepika and its because Deepika is more talented. Nothing to do with one being insider and one being outsider.

Ranbir and Imran debuted in same year. Ranbir's movie was a big flop and Imran's a big hit. Aamir made two movies for Imran as well.But who is more successful today ?Ranbir because he is more talented. Even Aamir couldn't save his nephew's career because his nephew couldn't act.

Didn't Aditya Chopra give Anushka a Band baja baraat to revive her career.Why?Because he was her mentor. Hasn't Aamir helped Fatima get TOH?But if Karna helps out Alia then that becomes wrong,despite all of us knowing how well Alia acted in those movies..Why?Only because Alia is a star kid

Why did Kangana's (who started this whole nepotism debate)both films flopped whereas VD 's both films became a hit. Because audience only cares about watching good and entertaining movies

After Kangana-Hrithik debacle and this whole nepotism thing its like being rich and privileged is a curse

Just because one is rich and privileged they must be wrong and whatever success they get is because they are rich and privileged.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mysterious_rain

why are people forgetting that badlapur had hit songs? gentleman had flop songs

even ek villain was hit because of hit songs

So?? Even Baar Baar dekho & Befikre had chartbuster songs, 300 million+ views wale songs 😆 but both flopped, despite Kala chasma & Kar gayi chull BBD & Kapoor n Sons had just 6cr+ openings, lower than Varun's A rated Badlapur (7Cr)

One more eg. I wanna give, just generally, ok😆
There are chartbuster songs, there are songs that grow on you, there are recreated songs, there also bad songs then there is "Jaaneman Aah" 😆 which single handedly destroyed the already low & -ve buzz of Dishoom, still Varun managed an 11cr opening for it with flop songs, trailer, director & not so happening actors.
Not that TM cares but just stating it ainvyi 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
#96
Alia is like kjo's own daughter. Everyone knows that. With him around she don't need to plan her career lol.
But more than Varun its Sid I think who is dharma's blue eyed boy.
Whatever Varun has achieved that's simply phenomenal. I agree. This year has been one of the worst for bollywood and just when we thought movies without content r never gonna work ...in came judwa2 and changed the whole scenario...

Although like I said vaurn has somehow managed to get a good fanbase for himself ...which is great...but I won't deny HE IS ONE OF THE MOST OVERRATED ACTOR I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. I have seen him talk about badlapur a lot since that's the only niche film he has done. But even there it's Nawaz who stole the show. People like rajkumar rao shud hog more limelight and shud get more written about coz they r true actors in every sense of the term ...not these star kids who thrives on nepotism
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Posted: 7 years ago
#97
Sabhyata: People love being self-righteous & believing that rich & privileged people are ALL wrong. Not true at all. If we should not discriminate because someone is an outsider/poor/unprivileged individual, we mustn't discrimate because someone IS rich & privileged. It's a mentality that grates on my nerves like most else, does not. It's a new fad to shit all over rich & privileged people BECAUSE they are rich & have opportunities that others don't. So much luck goes into success too apart from talent & hard-work & BW is ruthless like no other industry is... If Dhawan & Aloo won't accepted by the audience, no amount of wealth & privileged would've made them be accepted by the Indian audience. That's the bottom-line.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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People like Rajkumar Rao, Shabana, Tabu, Nawaz, Irrfan, Nas Shah etc will ALWAYS steal every show ever made/produced/present simply because I believe, they were born to act. They're extremely talented individuals. Yet, they can't be compared to commercial superstars because the genres & talent ranges are too different. The most over-rated actors for me are Salman & SRK. SRK is my forever celeb love, but I've no qualms in saying that Fan & Raees made me LOL. Comparing drastically different actors isn't fair to any one of them.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Alia is talented, there is no point of argument, but she is a product of nepotism. She is just average...neither pretty nor hot. If she wasn't bhatt's daughter, KJO wouldn't have looked her twice. If it wasn't for nepotism, she wouldn't have got Highway after a flower pot role like SOTY...period
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: Shaenma

Alia is like kjo's own daughter. Everyone knows that. With him around she don't need to plan her career lol.

But more than Varun its Sid I think who is dharma's blue eyed boy.
Whatever Varun has achieved that's simply phenomenal. I agree. This year has been one of the worst for bollywood and just when we thought movies without content r never gonna work ...in came judwa2 and changed the whole scenario...

Although like I said vaurn has somehow managed to get a good fanbase for himself ...which is great...but I won't deny HE IS ONE OF THE MOST OVERRATED ACTOR I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. I have seen him talk about badlapur a lot since that's the only niche film he has done. But even there it's Nawaz who stole the show. People like rajkumar rao shud hog more limelight and shud get more written about coz they r true actors in every sense of the term ...not these star kids who thrives on nepotism

@bold,
Judwaa 2 hasn't changed any scenario. It's lifetime collections are going to be nearly same as TEPK. But more was expected from both the movies at box office, since they were released solo on such a big holidays. It's just that trade has lowered their expectations from movies, because the industry is going on such a bad phase. Trade would've expected Judwaa 2 to collect nearly 170 Crores, if there hadn't been so many box office failures this year.

Content or not, movies are not performing to their true potential. And the reason is online streaming websites. Audience taste hasn't changed. They have just stopped visiting theatres regularly.

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