Varun and Alia's Success Is All Nepotism - Page 9

Originally posted by: serendipity_10

I have not even mentioned hit song or film in my post😕

sorry I misqouted you...it's not you I wanted to quote

Originally posted by: lumos_31

@Luna, I get ur point.

Gunday had also Ranveer Singh and Priyanka Chopra in it. So u can never be sure whether ppl came to watch 2 states majorly because it had Arjun in it.

1- there was big hype surrounding the film since it was announced, since the novel was a big hit. This was a major reason for the commercial success of the film.

2- Whoever watched Alia Bhatt in Highway, appreciated her in it. I'm not talking about the number here because honestly, u cannot generalise and say for sure. Not everyone watches the movie in theatres.

3- The pairing of Alia and Arjun was fresh. Ppl wanted to watch that. It included them both. Nobody wanted to watch just Arjun or just Alia.

What I said in my first reply to u was my personal opinion. Because the story was a clich, Arjun couldnt act. The saving grace of the film was Alia and Amrita Singh, imo.

But, even if u look at it by an unbiased point of view, u cannot judge in that manner. Neither was Gunday's success solely coz of Arjun or was Highways commercial failure solely coz of Alia. There are many other factors. And I'm sure, Alia was a well known face even before Highway released. Just coz Arjun's films with other actors in it too got good openings, it doesn't mean he's a more popular star. If that was the case, all his solo films would have been blockbusters.

U cannot judge for sure that the film got a grand opening because of one particular star who was more popular since his previous film did well. It's highly subjective.

N I don't think we should really compare Salman with these newcomers. He's a superstar, already has a fan following that is humongous, he doesn't need critical acclaim to generate fans. These kids do. If they don't work well, or act well, how will they get work? How will ppl like them? Just looks and star appeal doesn't really work when ur a newcomer. If that was the case, nobody would dislike them or criticise their acting. And if they don't have fans, how will their movies work?

So, imo...to have a foothold in the industry, u need critical acclaim. It's as important as commercial success.

Originally posted by: sunflower52

Nepotism can give you an entry but succeeding is up to the person and in entertainment industry it is the]

True to certain extent, but Varun, Alia and maybe even Sid were not just "even an entry"...in addition to entry's- they have had projects CREATED AND MANUFACTERED for them, or they have had KJO lobby projects for them - and to a high extent! 98% of their work is Dharma-related.

Yes lots of star kids debuted and failed, but I have never seen such an aggressive overbearing support for any starkid. Even Yash Chopra was lazy when it came to his own son Uday, Ekta helped Tushar too but it didn't go anywhere. Also Varun/Sid are obviously better looking that Uday/Tushar so that helps too!

Again I am not saying they are nothing...they are doing very well however...they do have an aggressive and strong support system...and not all star kids have had that kind of STRONG support. All star kids get an entry...but the background support is a whole other ballgame.

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

True to certain extent, but Varun, Alia and maybe even Sid were not just "even an entry"...in addition to entry's- they have had projects CREATED AND MANUFACTERED for them, or they have had KJO lobby projects for them - and to a high extent! 98% of their work is Dharma-related.

Yes lots of star kids debuted and failed, but I have never seen such an aggressive overbearing support for any starkid. Even Yash Chopra was lazy when it came to his own son Uday, Ekta helped Tushar too but it didn't go anywhere. Also Varun/Sid are obviously better looking that Uday/Tushar so that helps too!

Again I am not saying they are nothing...they are doing very well however...they do have an aggressive and strong support system...and not all star kids have had that kind of STRONG support. All star kids get an entry...but the background support is a whole other ballgame.

98% is that an exaggeration or what?

Varun has only 3 dharma film out of 9 films


tell me how that is 98%? that is 33%

all varun dharma film are with alia,that should tell you kjo is favouring alia by using varun cause he knows their pairing is accepted...his next 2 with dharma will also be with alia...he hasnt done any film with dharma that doesn't have alia

he got badlapur,October,sui dhaaga,abcd2 on his merit..same can't be said of alia or sid

Interesting post. I do agree that they had advantages coming into the industry, but I also believe that they - especially Varun - have been very, very smart with their film choices.

Originally posted by: edunn

Varun has only 3 dharma film out of 9 films

That comment was moreso for Alia but:

Varun's 9 Films:

3 Dharma:
SOTY
HSK
BKD

3 Family:
MTH
Dishoom
Judwa-2

Dilwale (how do we know he didn't get recommended by KJO due to the SRK-Kajol connection?)
ABCD2 (Karan and Remo worked together for years on Jhalak, how do we know he wasn't recommended)

^ whether its true or not. A CONNECTION is there.



That leaves Badlapur. which seems legit unless someone can find some connection there

HZ: I disagree. AB certainly needs her career & is immensely passionate about her! She doesn't have much to fall back on. Others are atleast are educated. They've options. Aloo was a tiny young thing in films with no other options. She has a fire in her belly & that is what has led her here. I ememeber watching her in SOTY & laughing at her. Lol.. 1.5 years later, how wrong she proved everybody. See. Fire. <3

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

That comment was moreso for Alia but:

Varun's 9 Films:

3 Dharma:
SOTY
HSK
BKD

3 Family:
MTH
Dishoom
Judwa-2

Dilwale (how do we know he didn't get recommended by KJO due to the SRK-Kajol connection?)
ABCD2 (Karan and Remo worked together for years on Jhalak, how do we know he wasn't recommended)

^ whether its true or not. A CONNECTION is there.



That leaves Badlapur. which seems legit unless someone can find some connection there

All his family were him helping his family not the other way around maybe except for mth

so cause kjo work with remo...he will now mandate him to cast Varun?...if so why didn't he mandate him to also cast Sid and alia


don't you think your excuses are ridiculous?

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

That comment was moreso for Alia but:

Varun's 9 Films:

3 Dharma:
SOTY
HSK
BKD

3 Family:
MTH
Dishoom
Judwa-2

Dilwale (how do we know he didn't get recommended by KJO due to the SRK-Kajol connection?)
ABCD2 (Karan and Remo worked together for years on Jhalak, how do we know he wasn't recommended)

^ whether its true or not. A CONNECTION is there.



That leaves Badlapur. which seems legit unless someone can find some connection there

rohit shetty was dilwale director not srk..he was the one that named the cast cause why will srk cast kriti,lever and co

another fact..srk even recommend Varun for ittefaq but he rejected...so it isn't kjo pulling that string

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

That comment was moreso for Alia but:

Varun's 9 Films:

3 Dharma:
SOTY
HSK
BKD

3 Family:
MTH
Dishoom
Judwa-2

Dilwale (how do we know he didn't get recommended by KJO due to the SRK-Kajol connection?)
ABCD2 (Karan and Remo worked together for years on Jhalak, how do we know he wasn't recommended)

^ whether its true or not. A CONNECTION is there.



That leaves Badlapur. which seems legit unless someone can find some connection there

Lol kya logic hai 😆


Dhawan's don't produce their own film. So saying Balaji had only signed Varun coz David had some great success such as Rascals and Do Knot Disturb to back him up prior the release of Main Tera Hero. Also Sajid Nadiadwala must've had more faith on Desi Boyz Director than Varun who'd given Badlapur, HSKD and Badlapur prior to that.

Remo has worked with whole freaking industry. Does that mean he will cast whole freaking industry in his films? And you're talking as if Remo is the producer, final decision was take by Disney UTV to cast known leads and their dancing talents. And unlike your favourite Shraddha he didn't need months training

I don't give a damn about Dilwale but kindly tell you he was selected over Arjun and many new lots because he was most bankable

Varun was also offered Half Gf, Ok Jaanu, Side Hero by Vasan Bala, Milan Talkies by Tigmanshu Dhulia, Nitesh Tiwari's next but rejected all. Now most have nothing to do with Kjo. No matter how much you try to connect. Likes of Shoojit Sircar and Sharat Katariya wouldn't cast anyone who's suggested by industry. But what's the point? You'll believe whatever you want. Won't further burst your delusional bubble.


If we use this logic then even Rajkumar Rao got all his films coz of someone else