Shah Rukh Khan, worlds biggest movie star - Page 21

Lol haklu is no longer India's biggest movie star leave alone global 😆

This is no Einstein question who is biggest star in he world its of course Tom Cruise without any doubt. Srk is no where close to it.

A mockery has been made of the article on this thread!

Originally posted by: Heisenberg1

lol, you need to move on, a whole paragraph dedicated to my one small passing comment, sheesh. 😆


Wow! Manoj Tiwari is a regional star for crying out loud. Shahrukh is a global star. So again you are back to comparing apples and oranges. It's like saying a person who plays Ranji level cricket is as big a star as someone who plays for the national team. A regional star in any country out there would not be as big as someone who is more widely watched.

😆... thanks, you just proved my point. Even though Manoj Tiwari is a Bhojpuri superstar, we can still objectively say that SRK is a bigger star than him under every metric, but according to your logic, we cannot say who is the bigger star because they work in different industries, even though it is plain as obvious to anyone that SRK is objectively the bigger star.

Yes, that's a good analogy you used, it's all relative, Bhojpuri cinema is smaller than Bollywood, and Bollywood is smaller than Hollywood. So in comparison between Hollywood and Bollywood, Bollywood would be Rajni level cricket, whilst Hollywood would be national level, and as you've so succinctly put it below...

A regional star in any country out there would not be as big as someone who is more widely watched.

Exactly, Hollywood movies are more widely watched, Tom Cruise's movies are more widely released than SRK's.

As for India, SRK doesn't even hold the highest grossing film, nor the highest footfalls, so much for the biggest movie star in the world, the guy is struggling at no.3 in his home turf. 😆 As for international fans, most of his fans abroad are people of South Asian descent, yes he has foreign fans as well, but they make up a minority.

Also amusing is the fact that whilst Hollywood is attracting established actors from all over the world, they have never been interested in the "biggest movie star in the world". 😆

What would be the fun in that :) Need to acknowledge your oh so awesome comments in here before I move on to the next :)

Hahahahaa! Of course that is what you'll get out of it. It doesn't surprise me one bit that someone who can draw comparisons between regional stars as opposed to a global star is comparing Hollywood to Bollywood. I don't think you got my logic at all. Go back and read some of the posts out there and you might get it or for your convenience , I'll explain it again. I stated one can't compare Hollywood and Bollywood when it comes to earnings , BO collections , budgets of a movie , and how wide the release of their films are considering the money that goes into making a big Hollywood movie can't be remotely compared to the money that is invested here. I stated as emphatically as I could that if those are your benchmarks , Hollywood of course leads.

Now coming to the fanbase. You do happen to know India has a huge population...right? You do happen to know that Indians are almost in every part of the world out there? Forget the diaspora audience , just the audience within India itself who watches movies on television and cinema halls can attest to what is being used as benchmark in that interview to conclude that Shahrukh is the biggest star out there.

Awww, look at you worrying about what his movies has grossed and his position on the home turf. Don't you worry about that. These things change almost every other year. Not too long ago he was leading with CE just like Aamir and SK are now leading with PK and BB respectively. The fact that his "flop" can go ahead and do the kind of business it has done overseas speaks volumes about his stardom. The fact that his "flop" can beat both BM and Star Wars says a whole lot about his stardom.

And what is your point with regards to that? 😆 I could be wrong but weren't you the one who was calling all people of the South Asian descent as desis not so long ago? I don't know if you are aware or not , the territories outside of India are called as foreign territories. You don't count the revenue a movie earns in Pakistan or Malaysia or UAE as part of its Indian BO collection. There are a lot of Americans living all over the world but when a Hollywood star's movie does well in any other country other than America then nobody out there would point out as to how many Americans watched that movie in those countries as it will still come outside of the "domestic market".

Again , this is something you brought up awhile back to. He was offered Slumdog Millionaire , he refused to do it. You know the same movie that lead to Anil Kapoor getting a role in 24 or some of his other stints there. So not everyone wants to do every role that is offered to them :) Not that I'm saying Anil shouldn't have done that role before someone jumps on this and concludes that 😆

Originally posted by: srkjuhi

My arguments are just as monotonous as the counter arguments in here to begin with :)

Please go back and look who brought up TC here at the first place! A fan of Tom Cruise brought him up. As for which media I follow , I follow the media the same media that still goes crazy over Pitt and Clooney. I follow the same media that has talked about Pitt and Clooney in the same way it has talked about TC!

My opinion is I have no issue with you or anyone dragging TC into it. But to say stardom begins and ends with him is what I find preposterous. As for Pitt and Clooney , they have been brought up to show they bring out the same kind of hysteria that a TC does. Hope my opinion to you is now clear enough :)

I watch cinema coming out of both countries as well. I don't think you have followed my posts at all because if you did ,you would know I have stated numerous times as to how one can't compare bollywood and hollywood in the way it has been compared here. From comparing earnings , to budgets , to BO collection when it's darn clear that in all three Hollywood leads. America is a developed nation , we are still in the process of it so of course that'll reflect in the industry too.

It's not delusional at all considering you talked about hysteria about Hollywood stars and I said the same hysteria surrounds Bollywood stars. Hysteria is the kind of passion with which the fans and the media follows them. And the hysteria for Bollywood stars isn't just restricted to India. The kind of craze you see amongst the overseas fan is just as intense if not more. If a TC or anyone showing up at a premiere in London will have fans lining up for him then so would a Shahrukh.

As for Hollywood having more audience in other countries...duhhh! That's because their movies are released on a wider scale.

This is hilarious on pretty much every level. You are asking me why I'm comparing. Kindly, like I said before , go back and look who started the comparison. You think a TC is bigger in Pakistan than Shahrukh? Oh okay...wow! This notion that because TC is a big star , he'd be bigger in every corner of the world is preposterous. As for Shahrukh's legacy not being better than TC...ha! You are entitled to your opinion on that , I have mine :)

Originally posted by: --SH7_Sunny--

This is no Einstein question who is biggest star in he world its of course Tom Cruise without any doubt. Srk is no where close to it.

Originally posted by: kritz.anYa.vivu

its cool that you are strong at your argument, and it is sad that even after media hyping over Clooney, Pitt and Shah apart from you nobody in this thread thinks that they are as big stars as TC . A TC fan brought him up here, but i read her post, she stated some good and true facts , she did not demean Shah or his stardom in her post, you took her claim into an argument and then the long arguments but good ones .

whoever has dragged TC in here has made a mistake because he surely does not need any approval from India forum for what he is , infact its silly to get all defensive but everybody has their personal choice to make right. when TM opened this thread, she did not highlight the main thesis of the article, the emphasis is more over Shah's bank account.

see you are still beating around the bushes, i said that hysteria around HW stars is much bigger than hysteria around BW stars and i never said that indian stars enjoy stardom only in india, but to say that an indian star is the biggest celebrated star in every part of the world is so much of a stretch that even if i want to i cannot accept this.

So you are arguing over TC vs Shah and all you mention is a country like Pakistan to defend your argument ? I will tell you that take Iceland, Greece, Russia, Japan, China, etc and do you think a Shah is more bigger than TC in these countries where English is not their mother language too whereas in Pakistan they speak urdu, which is 80% as similar as hindi and you make it sound that it is an big achievement to be known in this country 😆

"She did not demean Shahrukh"...oh okay 😆. If the person has every right to put across their opinion then so do I! I hope you get it works both ways :) So let me get this right , the media is hyping Shahrukh , Clooney and Pitt but they aren't hyping TC...wow...that's some logic man. The same media has bashed all these stars left , right and center too. Especially Shahrukh if you haven't noticed.

Of course TC doesn't need approval from India forum 😆 neither does anyone else. I doubt any of the stars we are talking about care enough about what is being stated here so TC ain't the only one who is oh so above this.

I'm not beating around the bush at all. Infact you are now putting words in my mouth. I never said Shahrukh is celebrated in every part of the world in the way you are projecting it to be. Infact it was you who stated that TC is. Just like Shahrukh ain't celebrated in every corner of the world , neither is TC. Hysteria kind of means the passion , the craziness that surrounds these people. It's to that statement that I replied that hysteria a Hollywood star faces is the same as a bollywood star does.

Wait a second, wasn't it you who said TC is more well known in Pakistan? It's to what statement to which I said really? Wow...okay so I guess being well know in Iceland or Russia or Greece is apparently given more importance now. You do know countries like Pakistan , Malaysia , UAE , Indonesia , Bangladesh , Germany , Morocco exist too...right? That the population in these countries can't be looked down on ...right? That each one of those countries is just as important as the ones you named.

@srkjuhi - wow you have taken the argument to a different level altogether.

Lol @ Shashi... Tujhe mirchi kitni lagti hai if any bollywood star gets recognition outside india 😆

Originally posted by: Heisenberg1

lmao, you make absolute no sense. I understand your dilemma, as a fan, you believe your star is more popular than he actually is, I get it, but one should look at the reality of the matter, instead regurgitating the same flawed reasoning again and again.

Let's put aside fantasy and look at the facts. Bollywood is a smaller industry, Bollywood does not have the same international reach or crossover appeal as Hollywood, simply because Bollywood primarily caters for a South Asian audience. By that admission alone, SRK is a smaller star, his appeal and reach is severely limited, as opposed to a star like Tom Cruise. Just go to any cinema in Europe, China, Japan. America when a major SRK film is released, you'll see an overwhelming audience of brown faces, maybe the token white face or two, now go to China, Japan and India when a major Tom Cruise movie is released, you will not see a white audience there.

That is the difference between a global star and a regional one. My point about international markets, is that it is mainly the South Asian population living in those countries who are watching these movies, not the natives of those lands. So it gives you the false impression that he is true international star, when he's not. Take Tom Cruise's MI5, it made $135million in China alone, and it wasn't because of white Americans. That is the difference. Bollywood films can't even make $135million gross worldwide.

Slumdog Millionaire was a low budget British film, not Hollywood, originally planned for straight to DVD release. 😆

Hahahaa! Of course I know make no sense to you and of course you would presume what my dilemma is.

You want to look at the facts? How about start with the interview itself and what it is based on! How about start with what they are taking as a base to call him the biggest before you go on with the rest of your comparisons. You are back to comparing how wide a release a Hollywood movie has opposed to a Bollywood movie. I said it as clearly as I could that hell yeah Hollywood leads by a huge margin if you are going to get into the stats of how widely their movies are released in some of the markets you just stated. Whether it be China or Japan. However to say these are primarily the only markets that make one an international star is laughable to say the least.

I'm amazed as to how easily you are clubbing together the whole South Asian population. Just like a lot of the audience in China or Japan do not understand the language Hollywood movies are made in , the same goes for the Bollywood movies amongst the South Asian community. South Asians are spread all over the world. Considering how diverse India is , one would expect some acknowledgement of how diverse the South Asian community can be. That a whole lot of them do not even understand the language his movies are in yet they go out there and watch them!

I'm well aware that China and Japan are international markets for Hollywood movies out there but you seem to have an issue in acknowledging that so are Pakistan , Malaysia, UAE , Indonesia , Germany for bollywood movies. That the population living in these countries can't be clubbed together as each has their own culture , their own language , their own customs and traditions. That a superstar from India is known in most of these countries and many out there itself makes him an international star!