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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: So-Sweet


Indeed... I too thought the same?


That sums up the entire debate going on here 😳
here they talked about economy and the bank balance and all of us were arguing over the cultural popularity and who sells more 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: kritz.anYa.vivu



I'd big to differ again. This is the reason why I stated the point about diversity. You have to understand by clubbing together the whole South Asian population , you are basically saying they all share the same culture , the same customs , the same language. It's as diverse a community as any out there. I would have understood had you talked about the Indian diaspora abroad and how they watch Bollywood because it reminds them of India but to say the whole of the community out there watches it because it can relate to the films is weird to say the least. . I'd infact say Shahrukh being as popular amongst the South Asian community speaks volumes about his stardom as well as how diverse his fanbase is. We can't club together a whole community just based on the color of their skin. One has to acknowledge the diversity within it as well.

I brought it up in the context of what you stated. The Indian population doesn't define the world neither does the Chinese's population or the American population. Let's get that out of the way first. I have often seen in this thread itself as to how it's a huge deal if a TC is popular in some Asian countries but not as a big a deal if Shahrukh is popular amongst the other nations in the continent. That kind of view makes zero sense to me because then it's you who is defining which country is more important. Inception did well at the Indian BO! Does it mean any Leo film will do well? Hell no! It doesn't work like that. A lot of the times in these countries that you just listed the genre of the movie matters a whole lot. Kung Fu Panda did well in a lot of the countries out there. Does that mean Jack Black is popular or does that mean animated movies are? A Inception would bring in the moolah as you put it in a lot of these countries but it doesn't mean a Revolutionary Road would do just as well. So like I said when it comes to Hollywood movies at the Indian BO , not a whole lot would attract the kind of audience you are assuming there.

Who said anything about it being a big deal! 😆 Like you said if a certain member has a right to drag in a certain celeb , I have the right to state my opinion as well :)

Wow! So just because he hasn't interviewed a Hollywood celeb, it automatically means he won't know much about it? He is not someone who interviews celebs for the most part. The particular interview with Shahrukh has a context to it. Kindly watch it and you perhaps would know why he interviewed him. He also interviewed Mukesh Ambani so like I said it'd be better if one watched the interview first before they draw their conclusions. Fareed is someone who generally focuses on the politics there if I'm not wrong.

Edited by srkjuhi - 9 years ago

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Posted: 9 years ago
@srkjuhi

I guess it was my bad that i brought up TC in the thread , but trust me nowhere it was meant to heat up the argument . that day i had felt that TC probably ( IMO ) has done more iconic films and has a bigger legacy behind him and trust me i genuinely believe that SRK is the only global superstar from India . I felt that the biggest movie star should be declared by their individual achievements and not their net worth which the article has focused in. Anyways, lets agree to disagree and make out peace in here 😃


@Kritz and @sunflower.
I was talking about this survey .

Which Country Loves Tom Cruise the Most?

By Adam K. Raymond
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Tom Cruise's Edge of Tomorrow got smoked at the American box office over the weekend, finishing in third place behind The Fault in Our Stars and the week-old Maleficent. But even though the thing reportedly cost $178 million to make and earned only a measly $29 million in the U.S., it's no failure " because when you factor in foreign grosses, it's already made $140 million and should turn a profit shortly. It was the weekend's top-grossing movie worldwide because international audiences love Cruise, even if, since he jumped on Oprah's couch and blasted Brooke Shields's Paxil prescription, domestic ones have been lukewarm. But which country loves him the most? We crunched the numbers for his last ten starring roles (Collateral, War of the Worlds, Mission: Impossible III, Valkyrie, Knight & Day, Mission: Impossible " Ghost Protocol, Rock of Ages, Jack Reacher, Oblivion, and Edge of Tomorrow) and " assuming you're not stuck in a time loop that lets you see the future " the answer may surprise you.

Believe it or not, the U.S. is still the country that spends the most total on Tom Cruise movies " over $1 billion since 2004's Collateral. But that doesn't tell the whole story.

Total spending on Tom Cruise movies by country

More and more of Cruise's grosses are coming from outside of the U.S., where, to most people, the weirdest thing about him is that he's not morbidly obese like other Americans. Here are his most recent ten movies, ranked by the percentage of their grosses that came from foreign audiences. International moviegoers even liked Knight & Day!

Percentage of Tom Cruise film gross from foreign countries

But who likes Cruise the most? Yes, the U.S. spends the most total on his movies, but there are 313.9 million people here and not all of them are pulling their weight. (How many times did you see Valkyrie in the theater?) For the true measure of a country's devotion, we need to look at amount spent per person on tickets to see Cruise's movies. So we divided the grosses for each country by population and a clear winner emerged:Iceland (population: 320,137), where the average citizen has spent a whopping $4.77 on Cruise movies since 2004. Cruise recentlyfilmed Oblivion there, so maybe he just knows everyone personally.

Per capita spending on Tom Cruise movies by country

Which Cruise movies did Iceland like best? Here, his most recent ten films, ranked by how much they made there. Even in Iceland, Rock of Ages was a tough sell.


Edited by SunHarsh4eva - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
I have no issue with you bringing up anyone man but all I'm trying to say is I'm as much entitled to disagree with that opinion. Nobody is even denying that TC is huge or has done some iconic movies but so has Shahrukh. Both have their own legacies and you for the most part as far as I remember were comparing things that had no relevance to the subject which is why I stated some of the things I did. Such as earnings, BO etc. I was strictly going by the CNN interview and stating as emphatically as I could that when it comes to that interview , those aren't the things it has gone by when it says "biggest". It was about him being an Indian star who is world famous and considering the population alone of India and the rest of his fanbase overseas , the biggest too. So my intention here wasn't to say you can't state your opinion , it's just that I'm being constantly asked as to why I stated mine in an indirect way. Hope all the misunderstandings are clear now 😆. Once again have no issues with you or anyone stating whatever they wish to :)
Edited by srkjuhi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
yes Srkjuhi, i guess there was slight misunderstanding as who meant what, i did not mean that you cannot state your opinion, but may be my posts sounded like that. Alas i do agree that everybody is entitled to their own stand, and its good to see that we held up a long discussion here. Both TC and SRK have made their fans proud and deserve their success.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: SunHarsh4eva

@srkjuhi

I guess it was my bad that i brought up TC in the thread , but trust me nowhere it was meant to heat up the argument . that day i had felt that TC probably ( IMO ) has done more iconic films and has a bigger legacy behind him and trust me i genuinely believe that SRK is the only global superstar from India . I felt that the biggest movie star should be declared by their individual achievements and not their net worth which the article has focused in. Anyways, lets agree to disagree and make out peace in here 😃


@Kritz and @sunflower.
I was talking about this survey .

Which Country Loves Tom Cruise the Most?

By Adam K. Raymond
241Shares
Share185Tweet50Share0Email15Print

Tom Cruise's Edge of Tomorrow got smoked at the American box office over the weekend, finishing in third place behind The Fault in Our Stars and the week-old Maleficent. But even though the thing reportedly cost $178 million to make and earned only a measly $29 million in the U.S., it's no failure " because when you factor in foreign grosses, it's already made $140 million and should turn a profit shortly. It was the weekend's top-grossing movie worldwide because international audiences love Cruise, even if, since he jumped on Oprah's couch and blasted Brooke Shields's Paxil prescription, domestic ones have been lukewarm. But which country loves him the most? We crunched the numbers for his last ten starring roles (Collateral, War of the Worlds, Mission: Impossible III, Valkyrie, Knight & Day, Mission: Impossible " Ghost Protocol, Rock of Ages, Jack Reacher, Oblivion, and Edge of Tomorrow) and " assuming you're not stuck in a time loop that lets you see the future " the answer may surprise you.

Believe it or not, the U.S. is still the country that spends the most total on Tom Cruise movies " over $1 billion since 2004's Collateral. But that doesn't tell the whole story.

Total spending on Tom Cruise movies by country

More and more of Cruise's grosses are coming from outside of the U.S., where, to most people, the weirdest thing about him is that he's not morbidly obese like other Americans. Here are his most recent ten movies, ranked by the percentage of their grosses that came from foreign audiences. International moviegoers even liked Knight & Day!

Percentage of Tom Cruise film gross from foreign countries

But who likes Cruise the most? Yes, the U.S. spends the most total on his movies, but there are 313.9 million people here and not all of them are pulling their weight. (How many times did you see Valkyrie in the theater?) For the true measure of a country's devotion, we need to look at amount spent per person on tickets to see Cruise's movies. So we divided the grosses for each country by population and a clear winner emerged:Iceland (population: 320,137), where the average citizen has spent a whopping $4.77 on Cruise movies since 2004. Cruise recentlyfilmed Oblivion there, so maybe he just knows everyone personally.

Per capita spending on Tom Cruise movies by country

Which Cruise movies did Iceland like best? Here, his most recent ten films, ranked by how much they made there. Even in Iceland, Rock of Ages was a tough sell.




wow . This article is new to me, and i do see a lot of Asian countries there in the survey. he seems to be least popular in greece and most in Iceland. Japan is his territory , now i understand why he has so many fans in Japan. TFS , its cute that you find out such great articles , i loved the forbes article and now this.😳
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Heisenberg3



So you agree that Hollywood movies are more widely released, which leads to more exposure, more reach, more business, more fans, but you refuse the accept the logical conclusion that a star like Tom Cruise is a bigger movie star than SRK? 😆

I club South Asia together because I am speaking in generalities, it's what we do when we want to talk about something that is generally true. Ofcourse, South Asia is diverse, but as diverse as we are, we are also more closely related culturally, linguistically, genetically, than say the Europeans, Africans or East Asians. Hindi-Urdu is the most spoken/understood language in the region, as a 1st language, and also as a 2nd and 3rd language. Bollywood is the hub of South Asian entertainment, and no matter which South Asian country you're in, it's the cultural familiarity and reliability of Bollywood movies that people connect to.

I used China and Japan as examples as neutral territories outside of the dominant western and South Asian markets for Hollywood and Bollywood respectively, nowhere did I claim that these markets primarily make one an international star lmao, the point simply is that Tom Cruise is bigger than SRK even in a countries that are not English speaking or Hindi speaking.

Point is basically, that Tom Cruise is more widely known in India than SRK is in America. Go on google trends and do a worldwide comparison between TC and SRK, you'll get your answer, the results confirm my point.



"Logical conclusion"...oh okay 😆 So a country like India that has the second highest population in the world., an Indian diaspora that is spread in almost every part of the world! The South Asian community that you and a few other love clubbing together. The rest of the fans out there which do not fall in any of those category will obviously lead to the "logical conclusion" that TC has a bigger fanbase 😆

This notion that the whole community out there is drawn to Bollywood because it's familiar to them is generalizing a little too much. Hell , you'll find plenty of regions in India where hindi films aren't that big yet he has a following there . You had at one point clubbed the whole South Asian community as only "desis" who watch his movie, I mean to simplify the argument to that extent is baffling to say the least considering the differences that exist within India itself. Hindi is the most spoken/understood language? I could be wrong here but that won't hold true for a lot of states in India , forget the whole South Asian community. Since you talked about languages, let me throw Malay , Indonesian , Tamil , English out there as well as he has got a fan following in Southeast Asia as well and I have no clue if that is clubbed in this as well by you.A whole lot of the South Asian community doesn't understand the language that Bollywood movies are made in yet they go out there and watch his movies. To me that speaks volumes about his stardom as not everyone out there has the pull that he has when it comes to that community. His consistency at the overseas BO since the mid 90's shows that. To you perhaps it's just the "desis" who are watching it but many out there would call it international considering how many language barriers ,borders , cultures it is able to cross.

China and Japan are markets that very few Bollywood movies have ventured in! It's going back to the same old argument about how Bollywood movies aren't as widely released as Hollywood movies.

Kindly do lead me to this "trend" that you are talking about which says TC is more popular in India than Shahrukh in America? :) I'm sure it's a lot more "believable" since it states what you are hinting than some of the articles out there that hint Shahrukh is the biggest of course 😉😆
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Heisenberg3



How is stating facts degrading anything? Slumdog Millionaire was made on a low budget $15m. Fox Searchlight were the distributors, not the producers! lmao The film was made by British studios.

The fact of the matter is, no-one expected, not even the Danny Boyle or the cast, that Slumdog Millionaire would become this success story, if you were following the interviews back then, that's what they said themselves, it's a compliment if anything.



How does it matter what budget it was made on? Plenty of Oscar movies out there are made on low budgets! I had no clue that making a movie on low budget somehow equated to it being "low in quality" 😆. In case you didn't read , I said it was "taken up" by Fox Searchlight which should imply I'm talking about the distribution since it's them that backed it when it came to the Oscars.

Fact of the matter is many Oscar winning movie directors would say the same thing. Not every movie that is in the Oscar race , not every actor that is on the Oscar race, is known as sure shot from the beginning when it comes to the nominations. There are plenty about whom momentum gradually builds up.

Not to mention the whole point was about you stating , why the "biggest" star hasn't been offered an international project and I stated he has. He just happened to refuse the offer. An offer that Anil later accepted and as a result of the success of SM got a few other projects there , same goes for Frieda and Dev.
Edited by srkjuhi - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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